krup24 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hand 10.5 PL Omaha High FCP 6 MaxSeat 2: SB ($32.95 in chips) SBSeat 5: BB ($17.50 in chips) BBSeat 6: UTG ($75.45 in chips) UTGSeat 7: UTG+1 ($53.90 in chips) UTG+1Seat 8: krupnugz ($87.55 in chips) MP1Seat 9: MP2 ($105.20 in chips) MP2dealt to krupnugz MP1 [ 5 ,6 ,7 ,4 ] PRE-FLOPUTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, krupnugz calls $0.50, MP2 bets $3.50, BB calls $3, SB calls $3, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $3, krupnugz calls $3.FLOP [J ,4 ,8 ] (Pot $18)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, krupnugz bets $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50.TURN [6 ] ($35.5)SB checks, BB bets $10.50 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $10.50, krupnugz bets $77.50, MP2 folds, SB calls $25.95 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $36.40 and is all-in. Questions:Preflop limp, callFlop bet (which I believe is horrid but I don't know)Pushing the turn the way I didTable is extremely aggressive, average pot size is over $25 bucks and has been maintained for a while. I have been here for about 30 mins and everyone seems very aggressive.Hand 20.5 PL Omaha High FCP 6 Max Seat 2: SB ($39.80 in chips) Seat 3: BB ($47 in chips) Seat 6: UTG ($88.15 in chips) Seat 8: krupnugz ($195.80 in chips) dealt to krupnugz MP [ 5 ,9 ,4 ,8 ] PRE-FLOPUTG calls $0.50, krupnugz calls $0.50, SB checks, BB checks.FLOP [board cards 8 ,6 ,8 ]SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, krupnugz bets $2, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $2.TURN [9 ]UTG checks, krupnugz bets $4, UTG calls $4.RIVER [10 ]UTG checks, krupnugz bets $7, UTG calls $7.Questions:Pot the flop everytime rightNot potting the turn + river Again I'm just starting to play Omaha a lot more so any insight would be helpful. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hand 1, I'll bet this flop, I don't see a reason not to. I might even check-raise the flop (you have a very strong draw, and you will have trouble getting action from a set if another club or a straight card hits, you really don't want a club to hit, though). I'm probably pushing the turn too, since you want to try to clean up your club draw. You might get a caller on a club draw anyway, nothing you can do.Hand 2, pot the flop. You got called, so you are probably up against someone with the other 8. A lot of times, I'll pot the turn too, since he showed interest in the pot and I'd prefer to win it here rather than give him a shot to hit a bigger kicker. If he calls the turn, I'm betting most of the pot on the river, since he doesn't appear to mind that he is probably beat. Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hand 1, I'll bet this flop, I don't see a reason not to. I might even check-raise the flop (you have a very strong draw, and you will have trouble getting action from a set if another club or a straight card hits, you really don't want a club to hit, though). I'm probably pushing the turn too, since you want to try to clean up your club draw. You might get a caller on a club draw anyway, nothing you can do.Hand 2, pot the flop. You got called, so you are probably up against someone with the other 8. A lot of times, I'll pot the turn too, since he showed interest in the pot and I'd prefer to win it here rather than give him a shot to hit a bigger kicker. If he calls the turn, I'm betting most of the pot on the river, since he doesn't appear to mind that he is probably beat.In hand one, our draw isn't really that strong. Only a non-club 5 or 6 gives us the nuts, which is only 5 outs. I think checking is the right move here and either calling or folding based on the action behind us. A check-raise MIGHT be appropriate if the pre-flop raiser bets and everyone folds to us, but it would be a pretty big gamble. If there is a bet and one or more callers, we have to assume that our flush draw is not live, and whether to continue will be a simple matter of calculating the pot odds. Pushing on the turn is obvious.In hand 2 I agree with srblan 100%. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Edit: Sorry, I didn't realize that you did pot the flop. Didn't realize that the pot was only $2 reading the hand. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 Yeah, hand 2 is definately a pot/fold hand. By betting $2 you are almost giving away a free card. This is a situation where I would be more than happy to pick up a small pot right here.I did pot the flop. The turn I didn't pot, barely. But I filled up on the turn. Only hand that beats me is 99. I'm confused which pt. your sayng to pick up a small pot right there.ThankskrupIn hand one, our draw isn't really that strong. Only a non-club 5 or 6 gives us the nuts, which is only 5 outs. I think checking is the right move here and either calling or folding based on the action behind us. A check-raise MIGHT be appropriate if the pre-flop raiser bets and everyone folds to us, but it would be a pretty big gamble. If there is a bet and one or more callers, we have to assume that our flush draw is not live, and whether to continue will be a simple matter of calculating the pot odds. Pushing on the turn is obvious.I was kinda thinking the same thing that my draw was too weak. I figured some total blank hands would drop but none did. I was also considering a c/r attempt but as we can see it appears that no one is dropping. I haven't checked the odds on cardplayer, but even with the nuts on the turn I'm sure I'm not that great of a favorite. One player had hearts, One had nut clubs, one had a set and 9T. Link to post Share on other sites
Vman96 0 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'm confused which pt. your sayng to pick up a small pot right there.Mainly cuz your kicker is horrible...so anyone that is a solid player who is calling the flop is likely ahead of you. Any more than 4 handed...I'd might be check/folding trips no kicker in MP. You probably needed to fill up to win...am I right? Once you hit the turn...your play is fine though. Link to post Share on other sites
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