krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 0.5/1 NL 7 Max FCPkrup ($114) ButtonSB ($74)BB ($112)krup dealt 5 6 :diamond:Preflop: 4 folds, krup raises to $4, SB raises to $8, BB calls $8, krup calls $4.Flop: 3 4 5 (Pot $24)SB checks, BB bets $12, krup raises to $30, SB raises to $68 ALL IN, BB calls $56, krup raises to $114 All In, BB ponders and calls his last $38 Well I think I may have got a lil out of line here. I feel I have the best draw and barring a set my 5s and 6s are alive. BB was a donk. He was at $240 about 5 hands ago and it doesn't matter what the raise is pf he is in. I haven't caught him yet but I was waiting. SB was on my donklist but playing a little under the donk radar today. My image is TAG I haven't been too active since I'm basically card dead and taking advantage of dead money in the pot. Been at the table for about an hr. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I'd kinda be looking for a C/r here from the SB given the preflop re raise and smooth call. (Maybe a little results biased, but that's what I'd think I'd be expecting anyway). He's mostly likely got an overpair here which makes you a slight dog against him, but have high +EV if the BB is gonna come along for all his chips. Expecting the C/R, I'd almost rather prefer to smooth call the flop, let the SB C/R and get the BB to start calling and make sure he stays in the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 I'd kinda be looking for a C/r here from the SB given the preflop re raise and smooth call. (Maybe a little results biased, but that's what I'd think I'd be expecting anyway). He's mostly likely got an overpair here which makes you a slight dog against him, but have high +EV if the BB is gonna come along for all his chips. Expecting the C/R, I'd almost rather prefer to smooth call the flop, let the SB C/R and get the BB to start calling and make sure he stays in the pot.Yea this is where my dilema started after the BB led out the flop. Like I said he was an uber donk and I really wanted to catch him with nothing. After I raised the flop I cursed out loud cause I just totally forgot about the SB and his preflop minraise. If SB has and overpair with no set i believe i'm about a 52% favorite with 13 outs, 2 5s, 3 6s, 4 2s, 4 7s.Looking back I think I shoulda called the $12 anticipating a C/R like you said Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yea this is where my dilema started after the BB led out the flop. Like I said he was an uber donk and I really wanted to catch him with nothing. After I raised the flop I cursed out loud cause I just totally forgot about the SB and his preflop minraise. If SB has and overpair with no set i believe i'm about a 52% favorite with 13 outs, 2 5s, 3 6s, 4 2s, 4 7s.Looking back I think I shoulda called the $12 anticipating a C/R like you saidI just thought in my head 50/50, running it through 2dimes, you're 44.96% heads up against the SB if he has AA, and 44.65% against BOTH players if BB has a smaller over pair. Same odds, let's just get the pot bigger since we think BB will def. come along. I'd almost prefer the flop to go:check, bet, call,raise, call, push,call, call Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 krup, is 4x the bb with no limpers your standard raise?I open raise 3.5x the BB with no limpers...I think 4x bb cuts out some action I'd like to get, although it's just an extra ".50" at $100NL...just kinda curious that's all.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Gamble gamble.I like it. I don't think you have the best hand on the flop, but I think you have the highest (or high enough) equity to make this play. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 krup, is 4x the bb with no limpers your standard raise?I open raise 3.5x the BB with no limpers...I think 4x bb cuts out some action I'd like to get, although it's just an extra ".50" at $100NL...just kinda curious that's all.- JordanWell usually I do open to 3.5x BB w/ no limpers but for some reason FCP when you scroll w/ the mouse it goes to $4 sometimes and skips $3.5 unlike other sites i have played. Its kinda annoying and kinda lazy to not just type it in i know.You are definitely right about it cutting down the action though. Unless of course the SB and BB and donkalicious.Gamble gamble.I like it. I don't think you have the best hand on the flop, but I think you have the highest (or high enough) equity to make this play.Well I don't have the best hand but I liked the equity as well. And of course I wanted to double up especially since I already dumped a buy in on the other table. So it was gamble time.Does anybody wanna guess the hands?I may ship someone some loot if they guess BBs holding. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 BB has deuces and SB has TT-AA. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 BB has deuces and SB has TT-AA.SB your right, BB no Link to post Share on other sites
kcb 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 My guess is that one guy has an overpair and the other has like A/K and thinks he has a straight draw with two overs. I'm probably wrong, but it wouldn't be a first.Results? Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 0.5/1 NL 7 Max FCPkrup ($114) ButtonSB ($74)BB ($112)krup dealt 5 6 :diamond:Preflop: 4 folds, krup raises to $4, SB raises to $8, BB calls $8, krup calls $4.Flop: 3 4 5 (Pot $24)SB checks, BB bets $12, krup raises to $30, SB raises to $68 ALL IN, BB calls $56, krup raises to $114 All In, BB ponders and calls his last $38 Well I think I may have got a lil out of line here. I feel I have the best draw and barring a set my 5s and 6s are alive. BB was a donk. He was at $240 about 5 hands ago and it doesn't matter what the raise is pf he is in. I haven't caught him yet but I was waiting. SB was on my donklist but playing a little under the donk radar today. My image is TAG I haven't been too active since I'm basically card dead and taking advantage of dead money in the pot. Been at the table for about an hr.First, I wonder why you're attacking the blinds with a small hand against a player you know is going to call. Perhaps he folds too much on the flop?Your hand is big enough that getting all your money here is a fine result. On the other hand, low flops are hard to semi-bluff in my experience. Everybody with an overpair thinks he's good. (They'll put you on AK with a wheel draw and two overs.) Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 First, I wonder why you're attacking the blinds with a small hand against a player you know is going to call. Perhaps he folds too much on the flop?Your hand is big enough that getting all your money here is a fine result. On the other hand, low flops are hard to semi-bluff in my experience. Everybody with an overpair thinks he's good. (They'll put you on AK with a wheel draw and two overs.)Well I'm attacking the blinds because their post flop play is atrocious. I could hit middle pair and stand a great chance of winning the pot. They both especially BB will fold regularly on the flop but SB min raised so this was kinda unchartered waters. I tend to always attack the blinds donk or no donk especially w/ a TAG image.I agree that overpairs tend to stay here but honestly I think I want them to.My guess is that one guy has an overpair and the other has like A/K and thinks he has a straight draw with two overs. I'm probably wrong, but it wouldn't be a first.Results?SB has an overpair, BB has a comedic hand which I'm not going to post yet I'd like a few stabs at it before I post results. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Oh man... I think I got it.BB has THE HAMMER™It actually makes sense. Open ended drawing to the better straight if you two-pair. Not sure why he's calling pre flop though. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Oh man... I think I got it.BB has THE HAMMER™It actually makes sense. Open ended drawing to the better straight if you two-pair. Not sure why he's calling pre flop though.It makes sense but this guy is an not ur normal donk hes and uber donk. Too much credit nice try though. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 It makes sense but this guy is an not ur normal donk hes and uber donk. Too much credit nice try though.Jeez, I give up. That's a hell of a donkey. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Jeez, I give up. That's a hell of a donkey.Yeah i'll post results soon I'm guessing noone would get itAnd yes he was already buddy listed but now I'm searchin 4 him Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yeah i'll post results soon I'm guessing noone would get itAnd yes he was already buddy listed but now I'm searchin 4 him78 for a gut shot? Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 78 for a gut shot?Nope but I kinda like the thinking of how donkish he really is Link to post Share on other sites
7notrump 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 57top pair AND gut-shothis dream flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 he had JT Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Well I appreciate all the guesses but heres how the hand played out:Turn: 7 River A :club:SB shows [T ,T ]BB shows [4 ,J ]krups wins pot w/ the straight Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Well I appreciate all the guesses but heres how the hand played out:Turn: 7 River A :club:SB shows [T ,T ]BB shows [4 ,J ]krups wins pot w/ the straightWow... just wow. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Well I appreciate all the guesses but heres how the hand played out:Turn: 7 River A :club:SB shows [T ,T ]BB shows [4 ,J ]krups wins pot w/ the straightThi is why I'm willing to call with marginal hands preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 Wow... just wow.Sickening Isn't it Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmaster05 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Sickening Isn't itSplooge-tastic, actually. Link to post Share on other sites
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