Foxwoods 20/40

[lew189 0]

To set the scene for you, I'm a winning NLHE player over the last 2 years, both online and live. Online, the highest I've played is $100 max buy-in and live, the highest I've played is $500 max (only a few hours at that limit.) My experience with limit HE is virtually non-existent (online only, never above 3/6,) but I have read and re-read SSHE many times and I am capable of playing a solid, TAG limit game. The bottom line is that, although I have won at NL, I think my personality is better suited to limit and I've made the decision that I'm going to try to advance in poker playing limit, for better or worse. OK, having said all that I was at Foxwoods this past Sunday night and I took a shot at $20/40. I sat with $600 and played for about 3 hours. The play ranged from good to atrocious and I cashed out a bit over $500 ahead. I played very few hands and I played them aggressively. There were some guys there just calling down with any pair and/or any draw and some other people that would cap a flop with TPTK. I was literally stunned at some of the plays I saw. I guess the point of all this is to ask whether or not I just happened to be at the right table at the right time or if I can expect this kind of play on a regular basis at that level. I'm going to Foxwoods again on Sunday to play, but I'd like to know if anyone has also found play at this level to be weak. In an attempt to head off any flaming, I'm aware that 3 hours means exactly nothing in terms of results. It is the play at these tables that I'm interested in.Thanks in advance for any comments.PS- To Custom & Governator, sorry about the old avatar. I thought it would be OK because there were no nipples!!

[HoosierAlum 0]

DFTPWYGB.You should have a 12k bankroll to play in that game.

[fleung22 1]

To set the scene for you, I'm a winning NLHE player over the last 2 years, both online and live. Online, the highest I've played is $100 max buy-in and live, the highest I've played is $500 max (only a few hours at that limit.) My experience with limit HE is virtually non-existent (online only, never above 3/6,) but I have read and re-read SSHE many times and I am capable of playing a solid, TAG limit game. The bottom line is that, although I have won at NL, I think my personality is better suited to limit and I've made the decision that I'm going to try to advance in poker playing limit, for better or worse. OK, having said all that I was at Foxwoods this past Sunday night and I took a shot at $20/40. I sat with $600 and played for about 3 hours. The play ranged from good to atrocious and I cashed out a bit over $500 ahead. I played very few hands and I played them aggressively. There were some guys there just calling down with any pair and/or any draw and some other people that would cap a flop with TPTK. I was literally stunned at some of the plays I saw. I guess the point of all this is to ask whether or not I just happened to be at the right table at the right time or if I can expect this kind of play on a regular basis at that level. I'm going to Foxwoods again on Sunday to play, but I'd like to know if anyone has also found play at this level to be weak. In an attempt to head off any flaming, I'm aware that 3 hours means exactly nothing in terms of results. It is the play at these tables that I'm interested in.Thanks in advance for any comments.PS- To Custom & Governator, sorry about the old avatar. I thought it would be OK because there were no nipples!!

Just want to assure you...after what I've read today you are NOT a moron. $600 is a bit low to sit at a 20/40 table though...even if you're better than the opposition you're not giving yourself enough of a cushion to take some beats.

[pokerplayer24 0]

OK, having said all that I was at Foxwoods this past Sunday night and I took a shot at $20/40. I sat with $600 and played for about 3 hours. The play ranged from good to atrocious and I cashed out a bit over $500 ahead. I played very few hands and I played them aggressively. There were some guys there just calling down with any pair and/or any draw and some other people that would cap a flop with TPTK. I was literally stunned at some of the plays I saw.

Nothing wrong with capping a flop with TPTK. I'd say start at the 5/10 game and work up. While the majority fundamentals may be rignt your understanding of the game is still most likely flawed.

[joshrogo 0]

umm .. turn pro -- make millions?

[lew189 0]

DFTPWYGB.You should have a 12k bankroll to play in that game.

First Guess: Don't ****ing turn pro with your gay bankroll?I don't really have a poker bankroll. I keep track of wins & losses, but I don't keep a seperate roll right now.

[MasterLJ 0]

First Guess: Don't ****ing turn pro with your gay bankroll?I don't really have a poker bankroll. I keep track of wins & losses, but I don't keep a seperate roll right now.

You need a large bankroll for good reason. Solid play alone will not help you with bad beats.Even though you may be way better than your opposition, you cannot assume you will leave ahead every time you play.I will say that live games scale to internet games by a factor of 1/5th to 1/10th of the blinds.i.e. 10/20 LHE plays somewhere between 1/2 and 2/4 online.2/5 NLHE plays like 0.10/0.25 to 0.5/1Bottom line is that live games are much more profitable ESPECIALLY when you get up into the limits where the rake is virtually meaningless. At lower levels the rake is all that stops people from giving up the online game entirely. $4 rake at 3/6 hurts.

[silkyjonson 1]

Based on your previous game selection and the amount you have played it seems that you are in way over your head here. I would be cautious 600 is'nt much at 10-20 and 20-40 you could lose that easily in a couple orbits.

[psujohn 0]

First Guess: Don't ****ing turn pro with your gay bankroll?I don't really have a poker bankroll. I keep track of wins & losses, but I don't keep a seperate roll right now.

Don't forget to post when you go broke.But I think I like yours better.

[fleung22 1]

Hey lew...I know where you're comin' from. You don't have a bankroll as such.But you still need enough cash to sit down. You're going to drive yourself crazy when a donkey pulls a 2-outer on you and you're pushed to the felt.Try to have at least 25 BB on the table so you can at least hang out.The best suggestions was at early in the thread though...play small and work your way up. If you're a NL player there's a lot of little things you're going to have to adjust to.

[looshle 6]

I sit in with 1000, never really had to sit with more than that. The game gets tougher depending on when you play it, if you're sitting with a bunch of regulars don't expect to make too much.But if you sit down at night, especially with the WPT in town attracting more people, you shouldn't have a problem beating up on some weak *** players.

[timwakefield 68]

DFTPWYGB.You should have a 12k bankroll to play in that game.

Double Fart To Paradise When You Get Big?

[lew189 0]

Thanks for all the advice, guys. I'll sit with $1,000 on Sunday. I can definitely see how I could lose $600 in a heartbeat at that limit and I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. I don't even know why I included what I sat with because it wasn't really relevant. I'm going to try this limit again Sunday and see how it goes. If I bust, I bust, but if the play's anything like what I saw last week I'm not that worried about it. I will, however, definitely remember to post when I go broke. Lol. Thanks again.

[neblon 0]

umm .. turn pro -- make millions?

TP/MM is a statement not a question and its getting old.

[chrozzo 19]

i dunno man, nice cash thoughi only play $2000/$4000 HE though

[TB17 0]

DFTPWYGB.You should have a 12k bankroll to play in that game.

I thought it was:Don't Forget To Play Within Your Goddamn Bankroll.

[mcpickl 0]

Thanks for all the advice, guys. I'll sit with $1,000 on Sunday. I can definitely see how I could lose $600 in a heartbeat at that limit and I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise. I don't even know why I included what I sat with because it wasn't really relevant. I'm going to try this limit again Sunday and see how it goes. If I bust, I bust, but if the play's anything like what I saw last week I'm not that worried about it. I will, however, definitely remember to post when I go broke. Lol. Thanks again.

final table of the WPT Foxwoods is also on Sunday. will be very busy and players you don't usually see there. FYI

[Zach6668 513]

I thought it was:Don't Forget To Play Within Your Goddamn Bankroll.

DFTPWYGBDon't Forget To Post When You Go Broke

[AZWildcat 0]

TP/MM is a statement not a question and its getting old.

Yeah right... TP/MM is a poker player's mantra... it's a way of life... it's what drives us to be the best donk we can be! If it was possible to have slashes in our license plates, I'd be the first person in AZ with TP/MM on my plate. And when people ask me what it means, just give them a blank stare and walk right by....... Daniel should consider making a FCPers shirt with "TP/MM" in big letters, and we'd wear it like the Project Mayhem guys do in Fight Club...

[AgroPoker 0]

First Guess: Don't ****ing turn pro with your gay bankroll?I don't really have a poker bankroll. I keep track of wins & losses, but I don't keep a seperate roll right now.

Hey lewI know what you are talking about, not really having a BR that is the way I used to play. I have a good job with lots of disposable income, I played poker and kept track to make sure I was a winning player.But just some friendly advise, take it or leave it, start a BR, it makes it easier to measure goals on what level to play and when to move up.Anyway good luck

[GrinderMJ 0]

TP/MM is a statement not a question and its getting old.

seriously, this **** is not funny anymore when EVERYBODY says it EVERY SINGLE thread. Taht and stupid going broke getting his by bus posts, just end that gayness

[EvilGN 0]

Yeah right... TP/MM is a poker player's mantra... it's a way of life... it's what drives us to be the best donk we can be! If it was possible to have slashes in our license plates, I'd be the first person in AZ with TP/MM on my plate. And when people ask me what it means, just give them a blank stare and walk right by....... Daniel should consider making a FCPers shirt with "TP/MM" in big letters, and we'd wear it like the Project Mayhem guys do in Fight Club...

Great Shirt idea...for the OP, be prepared to have to wait some this weekend with the WPT there, lots more people trying to get a seat.

[lew189 0]

Hey lewI know what you are talking about, not really having a BR that is the way I used to play. I have a good job with lots of disposable income, I played poker and kept track to make sure I was a winning player.But just some friendly advise, take it or leave it, start a BR, it makes it easier to measure goals on what level to play and when to move up.Anyway good luck

I am thinking about doing just that. To be honest, that's part of the reason why i decided to take a shot at 20/40. I'm trying to get a little more serious about the game. I feel that because it won't kill me to lose some money, I can take some risks in getting a head start on building a bankroll. Thank you for the advice, Agro.

[Abbaddabba 0]

You'll learn just as much playing in a 5/10.Contrary to popular belief, playing well against bad players is a very valuable skill.

[looshle 6]

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