I Almost Got My Arse Kicked...

[joeythep 0]

Last weekend i was on business in Long Beach, CA, and hooked up with my brother who lives down there, and who i haven't seen in two years. We decided to head over to Hawaiian Gardens Casino, where we played 100 NL. I was in seat ten and there was one player sitting in seat two, who kept showing his hand to the guy in seat one and whispering while the hand was still in play. I told the dealer about it twice, but he did nothing. On one particular hand, it was heads up preflop between my brother and seat two. The flop came 5s-6s-8s.Both checked. the turn was the 3s My brother bet out $10, and seat two raised all in for about $60. I saw seat two making his familiar move to show his cards to seat one...but this time he lifted them too high and I spotted red 7-9 for the made straight. I just blurted out what he had, and my brother called turning over Ad 10s for a flush. the dude went berserk and got out of his seat yelling. Luckily for me the floor guy was literally five feet away, to stop the guy from bashing my head in. The guy started complaing to the floor,and after all involved explained what happened, the floor awarded my brother the pot, invoking the show one show all rule that i had been harping on the dealer for the last hour about. Well, the retard was broke now, so he got up but didn't leave the room. I suspected he was waiting for us to leave, so he could catch us on the way out (he was about 6'3 250 or so, not a small guy). After about two hours however he apparently lost interest and left. Now, after all that worthless blabbering, i gots one question... Would You Have Done What I Did?

[Canary3 1]

I would have just told the floor man if the dealer wasnt doing anything about it.... i definately wouldnt have blurted out his hand... but im a huge pusss

[srblan 0]

I would absolutely not have done what you did. Of course, I would have called a floorman over after the second time he did it, so he might not have done it a third time. Talking during a hand that you're not in is REALLY horrible etiquette and he was quite right to be mad at you (though, he's a dumbass for allowing other people to see his cards while someone is being put to a tough decision).

[ColeSLaw 0]

You should have yelled, "fatty, fat, fat," when the guy left the table. Other than that, you were the perfect gentleman.

[silkyjonson 1]

Well he could have been getting an edge by having his buddy tell him his cards. for example his buddy could have folded the Ace of spades so technically its not just etiquette but ethics. Now that you have a reason you may feel obliged to blurt out what he has. Basically read a philosophy book and maybe find the answer

[pong1092 0]

I think it would be different if your brother didn't have the third nuts(4-2 spades being second and 7-9 spades being first). He was going to call either way so you didnt affect your brother's decision which makes it not as bad. Say your brother had 7-4 I can see why the guy would be pissed. Also the fact that its your brother and you werent just some random guy makes it worse, like ur trying to team up against him

[srblan 0]

I think it would be different if your brother didn't have the third nuts(4-2 spades being second and 7-9 spades being first). He was going to call either way so you didnt affect your brother's decision which makes it not as bad. Say your brother had 7-4 I can see why the guy would be pissed. Also the fact that its your brother and you werent just some random guy makes it worse, like ur trying to team up against him

He had the 10 of spades, not the ace.

[Jdr999 0]

After the dealer did nothing the 2nd time, I would call the floor, and if they did nothing about it, I would find another place to play.And what you did was wrong. You should of called the floor over during the, and have them deal with it.

[Petoria 0]

I think that was very poor etiquette on your part. You lowered yourself to his level. I would have immediately called the floor over the 2nd time he did it, and let the floor know each subsequent time.What you did was horrible, and you should be embarrassed.

[hardkorbeatz 0]

dont listen to these retards that fat ******* wants to show his hand so that everyone sees it then its show one show all he fked himself there. and even so hes like what 35-40 yrs old probably? how many times has he been told not to show his goddamn hand during play u think? he doesnt care so fuk him.

[FourFlusher 0]

Sounds to me like what the OP did is as bad if not worse than the guy he's complaining about.

[pokerplayer24 0]

Tell your brother to hold on and call the floor. If you had done so the pot would have been rewarded to your brother without you having to yell out his cards.

[kevin2536 0]

Last weekend i was on business in Long Beach, CA, and hooked up with my brother who lives down there, and who i haven't seen in two years. We decided to head over to Hawaiian Gardens Casino, where we played 100 NL. I was in seat ten and there was one player sitting in seat two, who kept showing his hand to the guy in seat one and whispering while the hand was still in play. I told the dealer about it twice, but he did nothing. On one particular hand, it was heads up preflop between my brother and seat two. The flop came 5s-6s-8s.Both checked. the turn was the 3s My brother bet out $10, and seat two raised all in for about $60. I saw seat two making his familiar move to show his cards to seat one...but this time he lifted them too high and I spotted red 7-9 for the made straight. I just blurted out what he had, and my brother called turning over Ad 10s for a flush. the dude went berserk and got out of his seat yelling. Luckily for me the floor guy was literally five feet away, to stop the guy from bashing my head in. The guy started complaing to the floor,and after all involved explained what happened, the floor awarded my brother the pot, invoking the show one show all rule that i had been harping on the dealer for the last hour about. Well, the retard was broke now, so he got up but didn't leave the room. I suspected he was waiting for us to leave, so he could catch us on the way out (he was about 6'3 250 or so, not a small guy). After about two hours however he apparently lost interest and left. Now, after all that worthless blabbering, i gots one question... Would You Have Done What I Did?

Does this remind anyone of the coach in Dazed and Confused, when referring to his grandmother?....classic.You did the right thing.

[srblan 0]

Tell your brother to hold on and call the floor. If you had done so the pot would have been rewarded to your brother without you having to yell out his cards.

How do you figure?

dont listen to these retards that fat ******* wants to show his hand so that everyone sees it then its show one show all he fked himself there. and even so hes like what 35-40 yrs old probably? how many times has he been told not to show his goddamn hand during play u think? he doesnt care so fuk him.

Ever played live before? One of the fundamental rules of poker is keep your mouth shut when you are out of the hand.

[joeythep 0]

Yeah, on one hand, I feel that what i did was classless. And i've wondered if i would have done the same thing if it wasn't my brother. On the other hand, the guy was a jackass, the dealer wasn't doing anything about it. If I had known the floor guy was five feet behind me I probably would have flagged him over. On the other hand, it's not like I deliberated over the matter and then announced his hand. I saw the guys cards, looked at the dealer, and just yelled it. It was a fast enough reaction that i didn't even put together that he had the straight until after i said it. I just said "dude's got 7-9 no spade". I wasn't just pissed at the dealer either, the guy who was flashing his cards around was giving me **** about my previous requests to the dealer. It was pretty much a "f u c k you" more than anything. Anyway, i'll try to use my head and think about what i'm doing if i'm ever in that situation again. Of course if i'm in that situation again, and the dealer's as much of an ignoramus as that guy was, and the offender is as much an a-hole...I'll do exactly what i did before.EDIT: Oh... i didn't mention this before, but the previous two times i complained to the dealer, i WAS in the hand, heads up with the guy, if that helps to explain my general mindset about the subject at the time.

[Canary3 1]

i admire ur attitude ... i wish i could be an ***

[bobbywithani 0]

At first I thought what you did was funny, but the dudes might be completely clueless as to proper procedure, in that case it is the dealers responsibility to tell them proper ettiquite. I mean the dealer is the one responisble.

[offset 0]

Since you asked the guy to stop and he didn't and you asked the dealer to tell him to stop and he didn't, and the guy continued to be an *** for the sake of being an *** he got what was coming to him. You could have called the floor to tell him to stop, but in no way is it your responsibility.You were breaching ethics, but in reality his hand should have been declared dead anyhow because he had deliberately shown it to another guy.He lost. You won.

[Wandigo 1]

I think it's hilarious what you did and what've done the same the same thing if nothing was being done about it. Kudos!

[pckt10s 0]

most dealers are selective enforcers... meaning they only enforce the rules if someone is watching them...

[SunDrop 0]

I think it's hilarious what you did and what've done the same the same thing if nothing was being done about it. Kudos!

[psujohn 0]

It's not in the dealer's interest to enforce the rules if he doesn't have to. If the dealer tells Moose to stop showing his cards Moose gets pissed and doesn't tip.I think calling the floor over is the only totally legit play. By announcing his hand you're talking over a pot you're not in. The floor can either expose his cards to all or declare it dead depending on the house rules. You should have done this earlier though when you were in the hand.

[jowest 0]

considering the history of the night you did what you should have done with the exception of one thing. You should have stood up to the guy once you saw the floor was there. You could have acted all tough and grabbed your bro and started yelling "hold me back man. I am going to fck him up. hold me back I don't want to go back to prison." Then he woulda been all like " crap this dude is hardcore" yeah. that is it.

[srblan 0]

Since you asked the guy to stop and he didn't and you asked the dealer to tell him to stop and he didn't, and the guy continued to be an *** for the sake of being an *** he got what was coming to him. You could have called the floor to tell him to stop, but in no way is it your responsibility.You were breaching ethics, but in reality his hand should have been declared dead anyhow because he had deliberately shown it to another guy.He lost. You won.

A hand is not dead in a cash game if you deliberately show it.

[DRskateNT 0]

Of course it was wrong to blurt things out when you are not in the hand... but dumbass shouldn't be showing others... let alone being dumb enough to not protect his hand to the point that even more people could see what he had...I'm surprised you could even make out his cards... everytime I think I see a card and I remember it when the hands are turned over I'm always wrong :)But the bottom line here is that the dealer did not have control over the game and he is the root cause of this assuming all the details you said are true. Usually when people are doing things like this or close to this they are so fishy I don't even care.