bobbywithani 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I'm almost done clearing my pokertracker bonus so I should have reads soon. Sorry if it's confusing, I cant figure out how to get a transferable history from Bodog.Hero is MP1 with A[spade] Q[club]Pre-Flop, 2 fold, Hero Raises, 2 fold, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB callsFlop: A[Club], 5[Diamond], Q[Heart]BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB callsTurn [10]DiamondBB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO caps,River: 7[Heart]Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I'm probably going with c/c, but that may be only because I'm a wuss lately, because all I do is get outdrawn.B/C may be ok too I'll let others chime in. Obviously, we fear only a set, or KJ, we are beating a lot of capping hands here on the turn. If he's aggro, I'd b/c, if he's passive, I'm c/c.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I tend to c/c fairly blindly, but after reading Zach's post, it's become more clear that I should definitely tend to b/c more against aggressive opponents. Either way, here I would probably c/c without a specific read. Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSense 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I'm with everyone else on this one, check/call. Bet and calling I think is OK against certain opponents who you think could definitely be raising two lesser pair but I think check call is standard. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Yeah, we really would have heard from at least AA, QQ preflop. TT should have 3-bet in his spot, but not as much from passives.So, just 55 and KJ are all we can really fear.He could have aggressively played a pair and a draw combination, since there is a big straight draw out, as well as a flush draw.I'm with the b/c camp unless he is VERY passive.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Check/callOn this river basically any hand the villain is holding whether or not it is better or worse is going to bet if checked to. At this point if we bet the river the only hands that are going to raise are the ones that have us beat. So yea there is a good chance we are ahead but check/calling has the same value as betting in this case and doesnt open us up to be raised. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Check/callOn this river basically any hand the villain is holding whether or not it is better or worse is going to bet if checked to. At this point if we bet the river the only hands that are going to raise are the ones that have us beat. So yea there is a good chance we are ahead but check/calling has the same value as betting in this case and doesnt open us up to be raised.Do you not think an aggressive player will raise AT here, or A5, or QT? Link to post Share on other sites
respec 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Check/callOn this river basically any hand the villain is holding whether or not it is better or worse is going to bet if checked to. At this point if we bet the river the only hands that are going to raise are the ones that have us beat.Dead on the money. This river is a clear check/call against virtually all opponents. If he's aggro then he'll bet it for you, no reason to give him a chance to raise if you're beat. If he's passive then we're dead anyway and I'd rather check fold than bet.As for this question..."Do you not think an aggressive player will raise AT here, or A5, or QT?"On the river, no, but he will bet all of them everytime if checked to. No sane player (aggressive or not) would raise that river with less than top 2 after being led into after that turn action, and we're certainly not looking to face a raise. Therefore you will get 1 bet if you are ahead anyway. However, by betting you give him an extra bet almost 100% of the times you are behind since any hand beating you is so powerful it almost has to raise.Betting this river against a rational player stands to gain you nothing any of the time, and lose you a BB a lot of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 check.only bet if he's a maniac.you are ahead 2/3 of the time...but he's not raising nearly enough of the hands you beat vs the ones you trail. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Do you not think an aggressive player will raise AT here, or A5, or QT?A bad player maybe. Even an aggressie player should know to slow down by now with those holdings. Link to post Share on other sites
Love4hockey 0 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I'd bet call the river. I think we have a better two pair enoug times to bet this for value.****replies********Ok I see there is the same value in c/c. Link to post Share on other sites
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