Wow. One Of The Toughest Hands I've Ever Played.

[tallytownFSU 0]

$30/$60 LHE on Party (2 players at table)Hero dealt K K on the button.Hero bets. Villian re-raises. Hero 3 bets. Villian Caps betting. Hero calls. (2BB)Flop is A J 9 Villian Checks. Hero Checks (2BB)Turn is K Villian Checks. Hero Bets. Villian Raises. Hero Re-Raises. Villian Caps betting. Hero Calls. (6BB)River is T Villian Bets. Hero Calls. (7BB)Ill post result after a response. Obviously had to jam preflop. On the flop, he checked after about a 5 second deliberation, so I put him on a check raise, so I checked behind him. On the turn was a good card for me, but it worried me when he capped on the turn. I had to put him on a range of hands between AA, AK or AQ. I didn't think AJ was likely for him to cap preflop, as his play had been quite TA until this point. He wasn't one to play marginal hands preflop for many bets. So I didn't think I was in the lead at this point. Obviously the worst card in the deck fell for me, the T , filling both the straight and the flush. He bets, and I go into the tank. I figure im about 50/50 to win this hand. I figure he most likely has 99 or AA or AK. So, based on that read, I called him. Did i make a mistake?

[offsuitbluff 0]

little too much money in there to not call on the end to one big bet. true the ten killed you probably, but you can still beat enough hands that the call is justified.

$30/$60 LHE on Party (2 players at table)Hero dealt K K on the button.Hero raises. Villian re-raises. Hero 3 bets. Villian Caps betting. Hero calls. (2BB)Flop is A J 9 Villian Checks. Hero Checks (2BB)Turn is K Villian Bets. Hero Bets. Villian Raises. Hero Re-Raises. Villian Caps betting. Hero Calls. (6BB)River is T Villian Bets. Hero Calls. (7BB)Ill post result after a response. Obviously had to jam preflop. On the flop, he checked after about a 5 second deliberation, so I put him on a check raise, so I checked behind him. On the turn was a good card for me, but it worried me when he capped on the turn. I had to put him on a range of hands between AA, AK or AQ. I didn't think AJ was likely for him to cap preflop, as his play had been quite TA until this point. He wasn't one to play marginal hands preflop for many bets. So I didn't think I was in the lead at this point. Obviously the worst card in the deck fell for me, the T , filling both the straight and the flush. He checks, and I go into the tank. I figure im about 50/50 to win this hand. I figure he most likely has 99 or AA or AK. So, based on that read, I called him. Did i make a mistake?

[tallytownFSU 0]

He had 99. So it worked out.He had 99. So it worked out.

[srblan 0]

You can't fold on the river there, and he made a terrible play checking that flop. Maybe he was going for the check-raise, but still...

[tallytownFSU 0]

also, daniel, it would be great to hear your opinion on this hand??

[Zach6668 513]

also, daniel, it would be great to hear your opinion on this hand??

Yeah, he doesn't read every thread....

[Actuary 3]

Yeah, he doesn't read every thread....

I'll PM him and request he opines on this hand

[Zach6668 513]

I'll PM him and request he opines on this hand

[tallytownFSU 0]

bump

[Zach6668 513]

bump

[dimseven 0]

Hero raises. Villian re-raises. Hero 3 bets. Villian Caps betting. Hero calls. (2BB)Villian Bets. Hero Bets. Villian Raises. Hero Re-Raises. Villian Caps betting. Hero Calls. (6BB)

What?

[Briguy 0]

This is a much more exciting hand if villain holds A Q . Right, Daniel?

[dimseven 0]

This is a much more exciting hand if villain holds A Q . Right, Daniel?

Yum Yum

[SCS 0]

I'm betting the flop and then calling a raise.His delay before checking could mean a lot of things, ie he has a good hand and the A scared him, or he's thinking about checkraising, or he's surfing porn while playing poker. You never know.

[tallytownFSU 0]

bump....would love some more advice on this

[mrdannyg 274]

bump....would love some more advice on this

the action is unclear, please clean it up a bit.

[Abbaddabba 0]

When he caps preflop and checks the flop, i check behind.I want to show it down for the bare minimum.

[iggymcfly 0]

I'm really confused as to what happened in this hand. Did you cap it preflop or did he? It makes a huge difference as to what the proper play is. Maybe you limped on the button? If so, that's a terrible play with KK. Otherwise, I don't see how he raises, you three-bet, and he caps. You said it's on Party, so there couldn't be a 5-bet cap. If you really want advice here, you have to make the action somewhat clear.

[Abbaddabba 0]

Psst...It's heads up, and it's on party.Which means the button is the big blind. Im guessing the "hero bets" part is him being in the blind, and the first raise is from the SB (villain).

[iggymcfly 0]

Ah, I missed that this was heads-up. That changes everything. Honestly, you can get such detailed reads playing heads-up, that it's pretty much impossible for someone to say "you played this right" or "you played this wrong", just from looking at the HH. If Villain has shown a tendency to c/r the flop even after raising/reraising PF, then the flop play here is just fine. The turn makes sense, and I'm never folding a set on the river heads up. Never. That's actually one exception I'll make to the "detailed reads" rule, as you've got such good odds on your money that you have to pay it off no matter what.

[76clubs 0]

Also, he should not have checked the turntrying to trap in late rounds when your opponent has not shown post flop strength is probably not going to work.Id say he should lead right out, after all, other than QQ, what preflop 3 betting hand can you have there that didnt get a lot of that board.also, no way can you fold the river.waaay to much in the pot.

[Abbaddabba 0]

Why does everyone keep saying "you cant fold"?I was under the impression that the issue was whether to raise or call.He thinks he's good 50% of the time. The necessarily condition for folding would be that he'd have to be good less than 7% of the time. It's not even CLOSE to a fold. I dont see how the river could change much. What does he cap the turn with that includes a flush draw or a jack? I mean, really. Normally you have to think that your hand is good 67% of the time if you assume that better hands 3bet and worse hands call. While i do think he calls every time with all smaller sets, or AK- I dont think that most people 3bet AA here. Of course there will be the occasional maniac who does, and so too will there be the occasional maniac who 3bets AK or a lower set - which is why you would have to call the third bet. I think the necessary condition is that you need to be good only marginally more than 50% of the time. Do you meet that condition? I dont know, i dont play 30/60 heads up. I can say that against a lot of the LHE HU sit n' go players ive played against at the 10 dollar level, this is an easy raise. But beyond that, i have extremely limited experience with heads up poker.

[Zach6668 513]

But beyond that, i have extremely limited experience with heads up poker.

Didn't you do some intense PLAY money heads up matches a few weeks ago?- Zach

[Abbaddabba 0]

An intense one hour session.

[RISEorFall 0]

I think JFarrell got a new name