SCS 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Texas Hold'em $2-$4 (Real Money), #270,649,573 Table Vina Del Mar, 21 Mar 2006 3:29 PM ET Seat 1: SCS12230 ($141 in chips) [AD, KD]Seat 2: MyTurn2Raze ($120.20 in chips) Seat 3: Seminole9 ($143.40 in chips) Seat 4: JWonderQuest ($70 in chips) Seat 5: Ariel_ ($137 in chips) Seat 6: NeoDamige ($365.60 in chips) Seat 7: Qeers ($20.35 in chips) Seat 8: maxipopulo ($48.20 in chips) Seat 9: x SEALTEAM6 ($219 in chips) Seat 10: brotee ($160.60 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSJWonderQuest posts blind ($1), Ariel_ posts blind ($2).PRE-FLOPNeoDamige bets $4, Qeers folds, maxipopulo folds, x SEALTEAM6 folds, brotee folds, SCS12230 bets $6, MyTurn2Raze folds, Seminole9 folds, JWonderQuest folds, Ariel_ calls $4, NeoDamige calls $2.FLOP [board cards QD,2D,KH ]Ariel_ checks, NeoDamige checks, SCS12230 checks.TURN [board cards QD,2D,KH,2C ]Ariel_ checks, NeoDamige bets $4, SCS12230 bets $8, Ariel_ calls $8, NeoDamige calls $4.RIVER [board cards QD,2D,KH,2C,2H ]Ariel_ checks, NeoDamige checks, SCS12230 bets $4, Ariel_ calls $4, NeoDamige calls $4. Ok to check the flop and give away a free card? Or should I have bet out on this flop? Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 EASY bet on the flop. Don't give a free card here. Link to post Share on other sites
thecamelot 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Yup, no question about betting there. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Can you explain why you aren't betting the flop? Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Can you explain why you aren't betting the flop?So that AQ or a lower pair will bet out on the turn. I was worried that if I bet the flop they would have both folded. Seemed like a reasonable play at the time, though I'm not sure that it was worth the risk to extract more money. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 So that AQ or a lower pair will bet out on the turn. I was worried that if I bet the flop they would have both folded. Seemed like a reasonable play at the time, though I'm not sure that it was worth the risk to extract more money.I don't mean to be rude, but not betting the flop is absolutely disgusting. I can't stress it enough. Just bet for pure value. Not only that, but all you have is TPTK. Don't slowplay vulnerable hands. I really can't explain how strongly I am opposed to your check.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
grgimpy 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't mean to be rude, but not betting the flop is absolutely disgusting. I can't stress it enough. Just bet for pure value. Not only that, but all you have is TPTK. Don't slowplay vulnerable hands. I really can't explain how strongly I am opposed to your check.- Zachhe has nut flush draw also. make the pot as big as you can OP. the donkeys will follow. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't mean to be rude, but not betting the flop is absolutely disgusting. I can't stress it enough. Just bet for pure value. Not only that, but all you have is TPTK. Don't slowplay vulnerable hands. I really can't explain how strongly I am opposed to your check.- ZachNoted.I don't mind criticism. I'm here to learn. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 he has nut flush draw also. make the pot as big as you can OP. the donkeys will follow.I missed the flush draw because the HH blows, but yeah, seriously put as many bets as you can, while the donkeys will still call.Noted.I don't mind criticism. I'm here to learn.Perfect. Me too! Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 I missed the flush draw because the HH blows, but yeah, seriously put as many bets as you can, while the donkeys will still call.Perfect. Me too!Sorry about the hand history, it says I have too many emoticons when I use the icons. Maybe an admin can fix that. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Sorry about the hand history, it says I have too many emoticons when I use the icons. Maybe an admin can fix that.No worries. Did you covert this yourself? What site is it from? Also, if you do convert yourself, it really helps to change the player names to their position. Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 So that AQ or a lower pair will bet out on the turn. I was worried that if I bet the flop they would have both folded. Seemed like a reasonable play at the time, though I'm not sure that it was worth the risk to extract more money.If one of your opponents has AQ, they arent folding to a continuation bet, let them pay you off. They may even raise you, and then we get to 3-bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Tye 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Bet this flop for value. You have to show down some solid hands after you make what looks like a continuation bet, if you don't your other con't bets won't get anyone to fold in the future. You're playing 2/4 bet for value & let people call with worse hands. Kx will pay this off all day long here and AQ will probably call too. Giving free cards with TP/TK can prove dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Most of the time you'll want them both to fold.It's not a horrible thing to win a pot uncontested with TP.Don't do this.There's a place for it.Not here.your opponents like to call, let them.paraphrasingEd Miller? Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 No worries. Did you covert this yourself? What site is it from? Also, if you do convert yourself, it really helps to change the player names to their position.I did it myself. I can't seem to find a converter that will work with FCP hands. Know of any? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I did it myself. I can't seem to find a converter that will work with FCP hands. Know of any?yes.RiseAndFall Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 yes.RiseAndFallAwesome!Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I did it myself. I can't seem to find a converter that will work with FCP hands. Know of any?Poker Room skinLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$410 playersConverterPre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with [Ad] [Kd] UTG raises, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.Flop: [Qd] [2d] [Kh] (9.5SB, 3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.Turn: [2c] (4.75BB, 3 players)BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls.River: [2h] (10.75BB, 3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.Results:Final pot: 13.75BBCourtesy of http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/Only issue (not sure if this was just this hand history or a general thing, but it didn't pick up your hole cards, but that's easier than converting it all by hand. I should get a kickback from that site, I swear. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 DoubleTrain is awesome! Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 DoubleTrain is awesome!Just call my agent if you want an autographed picture. $10 a piece plus shipping and handling. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 DoubleTrain is awesome!DoubleTrain is doubleawesome! Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 DoubleTrain is doubleawesome!lolI do what I can. I only dream that a day will come when my hand converter link posting abilities will not be needed. Until then, here I am. Link to post Share on other sites
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