profxavier9 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 poker is grown man throwing chips and cards around i used to play soccer 5 times a week and felt like puking after some practises and was sore for days anyone who calls poker a "sport" is smoking something funky by the dictionary yes its a spport but lets not get silly and start calling ourselves athletes Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 poker is grown man throwing chips and cards around i used to play soccer 5 times a week and felt like puking after some practises and was sore for days anyone who calls poker a "sport" is smoking something funky by the dictionary yes its a spport but lets not get silly and start calling ourselves athletesperiods. please. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 wasn't doyle a track star back in his day also?yup Link to post Share on other sites
JBradburn6 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 You guys successfully pissed me off. Congrats. Link to post Share on other sites
thrillsoft 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Have you ever sat in at the "play money" tables? If poker players didn't put their own money up that's what it would be like. It's poker. Putting your money up is part of the game. Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 You guys successfully pissed me off. Congrats.Who, me? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Golf not a sport?You combine the skills of NASCAR with the stamina of curling and the concentration of bowling on a field of hayfever inducing freshly mown grass all while trying to keep your cigar lit as you flag the cart girl to bring you more ice while trying to remember if the ball goes right or left when it's above your feet?This is what the Greeks were thinking of when they first thought up the olympics.The only thing that comes close to this is Bass fishing, which is a fully sponsered event btw. And darts Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Golf not a sport?You combine the skills of NASCAR with the stamina of curling and the concentration of bowling on a field of hayfever inducing freshly mown grass all while trying to keep your cigar lit as you flag the cart girl to bring you more ice while trying to remember if the ball goes right or left when it's above your feet?This is what the Greeks were thinking of when they first thought up the olympics.The only thing that comes close to this is Bass fishing, which is a fully sponsered event btw. And dartsSuck at golf much? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Suck at golf much?yea Link to post Share on other sites
JBradburn6 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Who, me?Yes. Let's have rough mad at each other sex now.Have you ever sat in at the "play money" tables? If poker players didn't put their own money up that's what it would be like. It's poker. Putting your money up is part of the game.Bad analogy. If there was an invitational for like 200 Pros, and put up $2M in prize pool money from a TV deal, you think people would play like the play money tables? Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Competitive golf is a sport. In high school and college, it is tough to walk 5 miles in 90+ degree heat while taking 80+ swings (including practice swings). You do have to have a certain level of endurance to play well.And for you who said anything with a judge isn't a sport... You're saying Boxing isn't a sport???? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Competitive golf is a sport. In high school and college, it is tough to walk 5 miles in 90+ degree heat while taking 80+ swings (including practice swings). You do have to have a certain level of endurance to play well.And for you who said anything with a judge isn't a sport... You're saying Boxing isn't a sport????Not when Don King picks the winner before the fight starts Link to post Share on other sites
supertouch 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Competitive golf is a sport. In high school and college, it is tough to walk 5 miles in 90+ degree heat while taking 80+ swings (including practice swings). You do have to have a certain level of endurance to play well.And for you who said anything with a judge isn't a sport... You're saying Boxing isn't a sport????boxing judges aren't the sole determent of the winner. in figure skating, gymnastics, etc. they are. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 boxing judges aren't the sole determent of the winner. in figure skating, gymnastics, etc. they are.In the Miss America contest the plastic surgeon has more to say than the actual celebrity judge, so that makes it a sport too. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've incorporated body-checking into my game after any bad beat that I take. Also, I disagree that a sport is a contest where your opponent can affect your outcome. I don't really care one way or the other if poker is labeled a sport. I can't help but chuckle at the picture of Doyle with "Athlete?" under it. As others have stated, he was a top track athlete and was drafted by the NBA before he injured his knee.The problem with labels is that nobody can ever agree where they apply and where they don't. Sport or not, who cares?The original question about corporate sponsorship is something that seems to be working its way towards happening. If the TV producers are making so much money from and exerting so much control over the tournament broadcasts, shouldn't they contribute financially? The fact is, tournament poker has its roots in people putting up their own money to play, and it will probably remain mostly that way for quite a while. Yes, there are exceptions (the PPT comes to mind, I think the WSOP Tournament of Champions is sort of sponsored, too), but a great deal of the appeal of big tournament poker is the "anyone can win" aspect. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Imagine how insane the WSOP ME would be if it were a freeroll?Unless there is some system in place to qualify one as a "professional," like in all other "sports." (like the PPT) They'll have to put up money to play or it'll be full blown anarchy and the tourneys will become completely valueless. Already, we see the established pros lamenting what has become of the WSOP. While winning a bracelet still means something, it doesn't carry the prestige it used to.Also, all the "sports" mentioned charge admission to view the events, which spectators gladly pay. These admission fees, along with other sponsor fees make up the prize pool. So, until poker becomes completely mainstream and people, advertisers, and large corporations are will to put up the money to watch these players do what they do, they'll continue to pay to play. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 lots of sports put up there own money, tennis golf at least they have to win to get money. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 lots of sports put up there own money, tennis golf at least they have to win to get money.Not top pros AFAIK. Link to post Share on other sites
PMJackson21 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not top pros AFAIK.Well, yes. In order to play in a PGA event, the player must put up the 5k entry fee. Now, even if it's Tiger or Vijay's sponsors that actually pay the 5k, it's still has to be paid by someone for them to play. That is why being a fringe player on the PGA (without sponsorships) can be a rough life. Go a month or two (or years) without a big cash, and you are in bad shape.Very similar to poker tournaments in fact. I have no clue regarding tennis. Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Supposedly a very good raquetball player.Almost played in the NBA.Way to pick the worst examples ever.There is a GIANT difference between former athletes and athletes now. 70 year old fat men who need crutches to walk are not athletes. Link to post Share on other sites
FIREonICE 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 that's because they are old. nice try though Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 There is a GIANT difference between former athletes and athletes now. 70 year old fat men who need crutches to walk are not athletes.He needs crutches to walk because a big piece of gypsum crushed his leg. Coincidentally, that is the injury that ended his NBA career before it started.Well, yes. In order to play in a PGA event, the player must put up the 5k entry fee. Now, even if it's Tiger or Vijay's sponsors that actually pay the 5k, it's still has to be paid by someone for them to play. That is why being a fringe player on the PGA (without sponsorships) can be a rough life. Go a month or two (or years) without a big cash, and you are in bad shape.Very similar to poker tournaments in fact. I have no clue regarding tennis.Ahh, didn't realize that. I knew that you had to pay to enter Q-school, but I didn't know that you paid for individual events too. Link to post Share on other sites
offset 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If adrenaline induced by nervousness or excitement is only thing that causes the heartrate to increase to above a walking level pace, it is not a sport. Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 that's because they are old. nice try thoughI know. Because they have gotten old, their bodies are not in shape any more (in Doyle's case..anyway), and thus, they cannot compete in athletic/physical competition anymore. Thus, they are not athletes. Doesn't mean they never were athletes...but they aren't anymore. Otherwise, you'd have to say that every single person that EVER played ONE GAME of ANY sport would be an athlete.....and I'm pretty sure that is not the case.Thus...Doyle Brunson is not currently an athlete. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 whats the physical activity? sitting for a long period of time? in that case, my neighbor who collects welfare sitting on his couch playing madden 04 is a gold medalist.He's talking about golf, not poker. Link to post Share on other sites
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