Zach6668 513 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is SB with A , 9 . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 5 folds, Hero completes, BB raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.Flop: (8 SB) 2 , Q , 9 (4 players)Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.Turn: (5 BB) 4 (2 players)Hero bets, BB calls.River: (7 BB) 2 (2 players)Hero checks, BB checks.Final Pot: 7 BB-----------I kinda wanted to c/r the flop, but didn't expect everyone to fold, and then had a multi-tabling mix up. Given that, I wanted to see if my hand was good, hoping he has overs, planning on bet/folding the turn here.Any complaints?- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I like it, even though everyone folded I still would have c/r. Was calling just an accident, and you made up for it by donking turn? If so, nice recovery on the misclick. lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 why not just lead the flop? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 why not just lead the flop?I don't necessarily like my hand. I wanted to see what would happen with the raiser on my left.---Pancake, I was thinking of c/r if most people folded, or if it wasn't raised before me. I misclicked and just called. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I don't necessarily like my hand. I wanted to see what would happen with the raiser on my left.you have the best hand a lotBB will auto-raise here and help protect/get value for you.If he just calls, you lead the turnI like your river play, as he bluffs AK here more than he calls with it, imo.And you don't beat other hands he calls withI don't necessarily like my hand.why call preflop then? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 why call preflop then?I call preflop all day.I don't like my hand because I have second pair into a big field. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I call preflop all day.I don't like my hand because I have second pair into a big field.ok..we got a debate! lolyou'd prefer to flop TP ?you thought you'd flop a 9 high flop?fwiw, I fold A9 off pre, unless I can run circles around the table. It's a thin EV call.ps: that's a big field? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 ok..we got a debate! lolyou'd prefer to flop TP ?you thought you'd flop a 9 high flop?fwiw, I fold A9 off pre, unless I can run circles around the table. It's a thin EV call.ps: that's a big field?I though it was bigger than it was...Seriously, my hand is pretty precarious postflop against a PFR and two limpers. I wanted to see what the limpers did after the PFR bet, and then I would decide on whether to c/r or just call, or fold.As previously noted, I think a c/r would have been best since they all folded.As played, I donked the turn to see what his reaction was, folding to a raise. He will almost never raise a hand I beat here. Check/call on the river seemed easy.- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
tylerc 0 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 i think the only street i like is the flop. first of all i fold this preflop. if i do play it i like check calling all the way to an aggro bb. youre going to get the max out of an ak and lose the least out of any other hand that he might be raising in this situation. why donkbet the turn? youre already hu and i really dont see what this accomplishes unless you think hes going to check it through. most people that will raise pf out the bb are likely to bet through the turn even if they are unimproved. i am extremely passive in these situations when it gets hu so i do get sucked out on a lot but i think you make more money in the long run playing it this way. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 tylerc,you don't want to lead the flop?We don't KNOW BB is aggro do we?Giving a free card here is HORRIBLE.Letting BB raise his AK here is great for us. Link to post Share on other sites
tylerc 0 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 tylerc,you don't want to lead the flop?We don't KNOW BB is aggro do we?Giving a free card here is HORRIBLE.Letting BB raise his AK here is great for us.if we are putting him on ak then he is agrro enough to bet the turn because he is aggro enough to raise pf out the bb with ak. i bet the turn here most of the time if im the bb on that board when cheked to and im not that aggro at all. so many players will call any flop and fold the turn. is the plan to donk out and fold to a raise on the turn? if he does have ak he should think hes behind enough to fold in this situation, but this depends on how capable of laying it down he is. if so then i guess this line ok, but i think you are getting more money check calling when you consider his range of hands. you also have the chance to improve this way. since it was checked down on the river its exactly the same amount of bets while get the possible ak to put in the same amount when he is drawing to three outs. this is assuming that he doesnt go for the free card on the turn, which would be a disaster and make me look like a complete ***. Link to post Share on other sites
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