All_In 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 or a bad beat? i didn't have the nuts. probably shouldn't have seen the flop, but occassionally i'll limp, then fold if i don't hit anything. maybe that's a bad play?***** Hand History for Game 1664959347 *****td_howes has left the table.Cabbie6 has left the table.0.5/1 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Mon Feb 28 22:00:44 EST 2005Table Table 14639 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the buttonTotal number of players : 6Seat 1: KIMBA1970 ( $54.25)Seat 5: st101 ( $25)Seat 7: PorgyBoy1 ( $25)Seat 8: djpax ( $31.25)Seat 9: fbrjd ( $31.25)Seat 10: exactaron ( $32.75)KIMBA1970 posts small blind (0.25)st101 posts big blind (0.5)PorgyBoy1 posts big blind (0.5)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to st101 [ Qc, 8c ] PorgyBoy1 checks.djpax calls (0.5)fbrjd raises (1) to 1exactaron folds.KIMBA1970 calls (0.75)st101 calls (0.5)PorgyBoy1 calls (0.5)djpax calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, 3s, 9c ] KIMBA1970 checks.st101 bets (0.5)PorgyBoy1 calls (0.5)djpax folds.fbrjd calls (0.5)KIMBA1970 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ] KIMBA1970 bets (1)st101 calls (1)PorgyBoy1 folds.fbrjd folds.** Dealing River ** : [ Js ] KIMBA1970 bets (1)st101 raises (2) to 2KIMBA1970 raises (2) to 3st101 calls (1)** Summary **Main Pot: $14.25 | Rake: $0.75Board: [ Jc 3s 9c Kc Js ]KIMBA1970 balance $63, bet $5.5, collected $14.25, net +$8.75 [ Ac 6c ] [ a flush, ace high with ace kicker -- Ac,Kc,Jc,9c,6c ]st101 balance $19.5, lost $5.5 [ Qc 8c ] [ a flush, king high -- Kc,Qc,Jc,9c,8c ]Mr_Chupon balance $25, sits outPorgyBoy1 balance $23.5, lost $1.5 (folded) djpax balance $30.25, lost $1 (folded) fbrjd balance $29.75, lost $1.5 (folded) exactaron balance $32.75, didn't bet (folded)if there's a point here where i should've folded, please let me know.Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
Schneider 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 pre flop Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Nope I pretty well would have played it like you did . . when you hit the flush, and your opponent suddenly started to bet, Id have put him on two pair or a flush.Your read as to what kind of hands he plays. If he's loose, I play on.Id do this differently in NL, but in limit, thems the breaks for playing a flush without a K/ADev Link to post Share on other sites
KenP 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Anything but a bad beat; the game clasification goes...just one of those handsThe questionable call was re reraise on the river. Not a horrid move but aggressive--especially when the board had paired at the river. Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 thanks all!just wondering if that re-raise on the river was bad (it was mentioned by the previous poster) because someone coulda had the A flush.and i was wondering if i shoulda thought of that right from the start. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I like the raise on the river. When the board pairs here, especially considering he hadn't shown any agression yet, there's a pretty good chance he has a set and thinks it's good. He likely won't 3-bet you with just a set, so here you have to sigh and pay him off. Ice Link to post Share on other sites
mays24 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Yeah - cost ya 2 bucks extra.But the guy that siad fold preflop was also on the money.Raised pot - Q-8 suited is a bit loose. Link to post Share on other sites
mays24 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 To only have had a set of jacks, Kimba would have had to bet out on the turn with just jacks, with a K on board. Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Yeah - cost ya 2 bucks extra.But the guy that siad fold preflop was also on the money.Raised pot - Q-8 suited is a bit loose.ya, i thought that might have been too loose. but the games at PP can be real loose, someone raising w/ A2o or something like that. i thought for .5 i can see the flop, and there was some money already in it. Link to post Share on other sites
mays24 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Could have had K's up, caught the jack for 3 pair.But the higher flush out there, andf the boat - makes a raise not so wiseGREED gets us all - Link to post Share on other sites
jrthunter 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 pre flopAbsolutely fold this hand after a raise pre flop.No question Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 pre flopAbsolutely fold this hand after a raise pre flop.No questionThe Original Pre-flop raiser, only called after the flop, I' assume he was a loose aggressive player, who raised in position, he ended up folding. So you cant blame his original idea to call from big blind. Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 pre flopAbsolutely fold this hand after a raise pre flop.No questionThe Original Pre-flop raiser, only called after the flop, I' assume he was a loose aggressive player, who raised in position, he ended up folding. So you cant blame his original idea to call from big blind.yes, the whole table had been pretty loose. Link to post Share on other sites
brisk 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Whoever said fold preflop is tighter than a 12 year old. You were in the big blind six-handed, definately worth a call there even though it's not a spectacular hand. Personally, i rarely play big-littles, but in the big blind suited, sure, and Q-8 has straight possiblities too so its not all that horrid. I also agree this gets filed under "it just happens", but if you were worried about a better flush out there then you should've raised the turn. I'd probably have played it the same as you though. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 To only have had a set of jacks, Kimba would have had to bet out on the turn with just jacks, with a K on board.You're right. I should have read the hand history closer. I saw that our HERO bet the flop and was under the assumption that he bet the turn, too. Anyway, I probably would have raised the turn, maybe even capped it, and then check-called the river. I would have lost MORE money. What do you think about that? If you raise in that situation with the Qhi flush, and you're 3-bet, would you cap it? Ice Link to post Share on other sites
BetItAll33 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 To only have had a set of jacks, Kimba would have had to bet out on the turn with just jacks, with a K on board.You're right. I should have read the hand history closer. I saw that our HERO bet the flop and was under the assumption that he bet the turn, too. Anyway, I probably would have raised the turn, maybe even capped it, and then check-called the river. I would have lost MORE money. What do you think about that? If you raise in that situation with the Qhi flush, and you're 3-bet, would you cap it? IceI agree with Ice, raise the turn, presumably get 3 bet, then check/call the river. Link to post Share on other sites
jayistheman 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 agression definately wasnt your problem..... more of a loose/passive issue Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 agression definately wasnt your problem..... more of a loose/passive issuecan u elaborate pls? Link to post Share on other sites
BetItAll33 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 agression definately wasnt your problem..... more of a loose/passive issuemy play was too loose?where should I have bet more?I think he meant too loose because you should fold preflop, which is debatable. Too passive because you should raise the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
jayistheman 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 upon closer inspection... .(i skimmed the HH before), you werent too passive.... good job... i was wondering why u didnt raise the turn, but now see that it would have driven others out if they had any kind of hand...... was still a really loose call pre flop. Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 agression definately wasnt your problem..... more of a loose/passive issuemy play was too loose?where should I have bet more?I think he meant too loose because you should fold preflop, which is debatable. Too passive because you should raise the turn.thanks, i realized that after i posted so i edited the comment. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I like to blame Canada for hands like these. Link to post Share on other sites
BilliardsBoy 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Preflop it was loose, but you said that you would normally not call with a hand like that. Hey, I'm sure most people here call raises with marginal or sub-par hands every now and then, myself included. I'm not going to criticize your call preflop. After that I don't think you played it too poorly. You had a hell of a draw, I probably would have played it the same. The K gave you your flush while at the same time eliminating the posibility of one of the better flushes your opponent could have. The J on the river is scary, but you raised probably trying to take the pot, so I'm fine with that too. Perfect play: doubtful. But it was far from poor. I'd rate it as a B to B+ performance. Link to post Share on other sites
machete 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 This is a classic example of how you can get into trouble from the BB with hands you would normally fold. I think it was played OK just have to take it on the chin this time. Link to post Share on other sites
SabaAba 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 You were in the BB with 6 people, that means it costs you 0.50 to win $5.50 and people are telling you to fold, NO WAY.Where I would have played it differently, is check/call the flop, check/raise/raise the turn and check/call the river. Hey losing to higher flushes happens. It sucks when you hit your 15 outer and lose, but it happens. Anyone who tells you that was a bad play is WRONG. You played fine. Believe it or not, you can play perfect and still lose, it happens.Good Luck Link to post Share on other sites
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