RISEorFall 0 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 FCP, .5/1I moved up! The .5/1 tables are much tigher, but I happened to find a 61% pfI padded my roll at .25/.50 though because I had to take so much out for bills n stuff. I'm a little underrolled but not enough to matter much. no reads, though.RISE is UTG1 with A :icon_suit_club: K :icon_suit_club: PF: UTG calls, RISE raises, UTG2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, RISE caps, UTG2 calls, button calls, UTG callsFlop:(17 SB)3 :icon_suit_diamond: 5 :icon_suit_spade: 7 :icon_suit_club: UTG checks, RISE bets, UTG2 calls, button raises, UTG folds, RISE calls, UTG2 callsTurn:(11.5 BB)5 :icon_suit_heart: RISE checks, UTG2 checks, button checksRiver: (11.5 BB) 10 :icon_suit_club: RISE checks, UTG2 bets, button raises, RISE.... Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I like the way it was played, and as it ended up, there's no real reason that I can see to do anything but fold on the river, especially without a spectacular read on the button's raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 what?don't callUTG+2 has a PP at least from the way he's played this.don't 3-bet, it has to work far too oftenYou are posting this because something crazy happened.So what, you have to play the percentages unless super reads. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 what do you think button has? Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 what do you think button has?Without knowing anything about the button, I'd say anything from 77-AA, AK-AT. I just find it difficult to come up with any logical reason (key word logical) anyone would 3-bet with AQ or AJ and then play them like that. Sure, free card play with overcards on the flop is a possible explanation for the flop play, but then raising on the river like that? That's just nutty, hence the need for an insane read, which we don't have, so we fold. You don't fold a winner here often enough for it to make sense to call or re-raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 what do you think button has?- position- balls- a read Link to post Share on other sites
soccersox8 0 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 In my limited experience, I think you see Ak here a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 yeah this looked exactly like AK to me, and I thought a 3-bet might force the other guy out and split the pot (and maybe even fold button, though unlikely)I folded but i wonder if anyone thinks theres any merit to 3-betting? Link to post Share on other sites
doubleatrain 0 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 yeah this looked exactly like AK to me, and I thought a 3-bet might force the other guy out and split the pot (and maybe even fold button, though unlikely)I folded but i wonder if anyone thinks theres any merit to 3-betting?I think it's too risky a proposition if you just think you're going to be splitting anyway. That's putting in 3 BB to try to win half of a potentially 15 or so BB pot, which of course would be 7.5 BB. So you're basically getting 2.5:1 on this play. That seems like you'd have to be pretty sure it's AK, but I honestly don't think it is nearly often enough to warrant this play. My logic may well be flawed, but either way I don't think that's a profitable play in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Granted, looks like AK...But I dont think UTG folds often enough. After all, its no fold em hold em at that level.Just fold. Investing 3 BBs is a little bit too much. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Why don't we bet the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Why don't we bet the turn?1. Button raised the flop and we did not improve2. We want to make fancy check-3bets on the rvier Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 1. Button raised the flop and we did not improve2. We want to make fancy check-3bets on the rvierI did improve, I now have the nut flush drawi wasnt planning on it, but when the hand happened it occured to me i would probably be splitting with button and UTG could fold with 2 back to him. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I did improve, I now have the nut flush drawno you don't Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 nut flush draw, with no cards to come... Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 nut flush draw, with no cards to come... it was 5 in the morning when I posted that, gimme a break. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 1. Button raised the flop and we did not improve2. We want to make fancy check-3bets on the rvierI hate the new converter system. Raises need to be in colour again!(Rise, I just noticed that you converted yourself, so don't worry about it, but I'm upset overall with the new forums inability to use the good converter... so yeah).- Zach Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Author Share Posted March 14, 2006 yeah the converter doesnt work with FCP (atleast last time I checked) so i have to convert my hands myself. it only takes a minute or two tho.hey Zach what was that website you said I could get PT for free or for some bonus money or something? Finally got a paycheck and can stick that money back in my poker accounts. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 yeah the converter doesnt work with FCP (atleast last time I checked) so i have to convert my hands myself. it only takes a minute or two tho.hey Zach what was that website you said I could get PT for free or for some bonus money or something? Finally got a paycheck and can stick that money back in my poker accounts. http://www.pokersourceonline.comEdit - Use my referral ( Zach6668 ). Link to post Share on other sites
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