ishmaelsimpkins 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I was just wondering what everyone thought an acceptable nl bankroll is for online play and if its the same for liveish Link to post Share on other sites
profxavier9 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 i like 10 times your initial sit down. But im a p u s s y in cash gamesPS. Live you can get away with 6-7 even less Link to post Share on other sites
CrackofmyACE 1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I stick by the 1000-1200 x the big blind rule as I believe it applies to live and online. It's a safe play. If you're multi-tabling online you'd obviously need more, since more of your roll would be at risk at once. Say 2000 big blinds for double tabling and so on... Just my opinion. Others may see it differently. Link to post Share on other sites
xzanos 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I have 20 max buyins in my roll for 6-max. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I was just wondering what everyone thought an acceptable nl bankroll is for online play and if its the same for liveishWhat a great question...I've been wondering myself for a long time but nobody ever seems to post new and intriguing topics such as this. I've even searched everywhere online and on this forum and can't seem to find an answer!sw Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 3 Brazillion dollars Link to post Share on other sites
mclark340 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I agree with all above...about 10 times buyin.I don't know how big the games you are playing online. B&M games might be higher.It also depends on how easy it is for you to reload. In other words, are you living on your bankroll or if it is a hobby. If a hobby you need less...if you living you need more. Link to post Share on other sites
2bthebest 2 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 http://www.pocketfives.com/5C57520F-8A89-4...D240CB3E59.aspxGives a very good guideline. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Don't play online. The end. Link to post Share on other sites
FIREonICE 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hi, I would say having a 15x or 20x the maximum buy-in for a NL table. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 One 10x bb buy in if you're really really really really really really good. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Don't play online. The end.you're so bitter. you silly goose. Link to post Share on other sites
knght311 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I stick by the 1000-1200 x the big blind rule as I believe it applies to live and online. It's a safe play. If you're multi-tabling online you'd obviously need more, since more of your roll would be at risk at once. Say 2000 big blinds for double tabling and so on... Just my opinion. Others may see it differently.Are you serious? Do you understand why this is competely wrong? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 you're so bitter. you silly goose. Yeah, I'm bitter, but it's more about the fact that I finally saw the light. At least for me anyway... Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Smith 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Are you serious? Do you understand why this is competely wrong?no he's right... Link to post Share on other sites
xzanos 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Are you serious? Do you understand why this is competely wrong?Yes, I would also like to know your thoughts behind this? Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 no he's right...Quoted for truth. Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Quoted for truth.You're joking right? Playing 2 tables for an hour carries EXACTLY the same risk as playing one table for 2 hours. This is a mathematical fact. Link to post Share on other sites
nritchi3 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 The only way you can justify saying that you need a bigger bankroll if you are multi tabling is if you think your winrate will go substantially down. The whole concept of risk of ruin is it gives you the probabiity of going broke with a given winrate and a given bankroll. The length of time you play does play a role unless you are a losing player and your trying to figure out how much money you will need to play for a given amount of time. And by the way this topic has been posted at least 5 times since ive been on this forum which as you can see isn't very long.Heres a link for all of you non believers. http://cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archi...4233&m_id=65544 Link to post Share on other sites
Highlow16 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 One 10x bb buy in if you're really really really really really really good.This is where its at. Its like DN playing 80-160 with a 3600 B-roll. Cant go broke with this method. Link to post Share on other sites
knght311 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Yes, I would also like to know your thoughts behind this?Multi tabling in no way makes your risk of losing your bankroll any higher. If anything it evens out the swings to more of a normal level because you are able to obtain more of a larger sample in a smaller time period. then again if you are a donk then yes, a larger bankroll would be necessary to last just a tad bit longer, you'll eventually lose it Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Smith 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 You're joking right? Playing 2 tables for an hour carries EXACTLY the same risk as playing one table for 2 hours. This is a mathematical fact.well go ahead and show me the math b/c it doens't make sence to me... if you sit in two games with 100 big blinds you have more of your bankroll at risk Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 25 max buyins Link to post Share on other sites
The Jackal 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 well go ahead and show me the math b/c it doens't make sence to me... if you sit in two games with 100 big blinds you have more of your bankroll at riskI can't really explain it mathmatically. I'm terrible at it. Buy try looking at it like individual bets. You don't have more bankroll at risk. You are simply making two (for two tables) individual bets at once. You don't have to wait untill one of your bets is complete to place another one. Your bankroll basically says I can make 100 bets, at a 3% advantage, with a given chance of going broke. It doesn't matter if you make 100 bets all at once, or make them one bet at a time. Your chance of going broke will be the same.The chance of going broke only increases if your bet size increases (going up in limits) or if your advantage drops (better opponents).Make sense? Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 well go ahead and show me the math b/c it doens't make sence to me... if you sit in two games with 100 big blinds you have more of your bankroll at riskThere's really no proof to provide. Risk Of Ruin is a function of win-rate, standard deviation, and bankroll. Number of tables never enters into it. Let's do a thought experiment though. Let's say I play 1 table, and I'm willing to rebuy if I go bust since the game is so juicy. Let's say I'm dealt AA first hand, and I push all in. Forget results...not important. Let's say next hand the exact same thing happens. I've played 2 hands, and how much of my bankroll have I risked? I've risked 1 buy-in twice, or 2 buy-ins total. Now let's say I sit at two juicy tables, and get dealt AA on each and push all in. I've played 2 hands, and how much of my bankroll have I risked? 2 buy-ins once each, or 2 buy-ins total.You aren't risking more of your bankroll playing multiple tables. You're just risking it more times per hour. It's equivalent to playing faster. In fact, multi-tabling really only lowers your hourly standard deviation. Makes it more likely that your results for each hour of play will be closer to your true win-rate.All this assumes that your win-rate is the same multi-tabling as it is single-tabling. In reality, your win-rate probably dips slightly, which may increase your BR requirements by some small amount. You'd have to do the calculations to get the real number. Link to post Share on other sites
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