Sopranos Season 6

[CrackofmyACE 1]

Link to who the guy at counter was...

lucky *******... thats really cool though

[CrackofmyACE 1]

Link to who the guy at counter was...

lucky *******... thats really cool though

[CrackofmyACE 1]

wow i only clicked submit once... my laptops haunted apparently

[SuitedAces21 2,722]

Found this in a obscure place but if true explains alot.http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=7974

he's wrong

Yes he is. He didnt even know what season the black guys tried to clip Tony, on orders from Uncle Junior. IT was a nice try though.

[jeff_536 3]

I gotta watch the ending again. Bill Simmons, in his chat on espn today, took a question from a guy who described Tony entering the diner as wearing a brown leather jacket and dark shirt, but he was sitting in the booth with a sort of patterned bowling-style shirt, if I recall. When I saw it, I thought it was a flashback scene, maybe him remembering himself when he was younger, but then everyone started showing up and I just kind of forgot about it. Definitely need to TIVO this and check it out again.

[Jadaki 0]

I gotta watch the ending again. Bill Simmons, in his chat on espn today, took a question from a guy who described Tony entering the diner as wearing a brown leather jacket and dark shirt, but he was sitting in the booth with a sort of patterned bowling-style shirt, if I recall. When I saw it, I thought it was a flashback scene, maybe him remembering himself when he was younger, but then everyone started showing up and I just kind of forgot about it. Definitely need to TIVO this and check it out again.

I read a similar complaint elsewhere... could be because the reportedly filmed the scene multiple times to avoid spoilers leaking and someone messed up in the editing department.

[hank213 1,823]

Didn't care for it. The cut to black was done for one reason only, so the interweb would be rife with speculation and conjecture about the meaning and what really happened. It was a copout. They didn't have the sack to man up and create a real finale so they just left it. The whole tension building in the diner was nothing more than a cocktease.

[byaaatch 0]

I read a similar complaint elsewhere... could be because the reportedly filmed the scene multiple times to avoid spoilers leaking and someone messed up in the editing department.

Alright I just rewatched it. Basically from when he leaves uncle junior his shirt does look a little more blueish somehting. but when he walks into the dinner until the very end it looks like the same shirt. You know I have been watching ESPN and they have been talking about it too. And yes with thinking about the ending without it being said it seems like tony got shot. The thing is it was a bit of a copout. I mean you dont watch shows especially the series finale to be left with what could have happened. I mean the show was based on a lot of crazy stuff that they showed here. And then to not show whether tony gets whacked or not was a copout. I mean a more interesting thing would have been to fast forward to a year in the future showing meadow having her child and saying I wish grandpa could have been here to see you, speaking to the baby. At least to show the closure would have been good. I think a lot could have been said even without seeing tony gunned down. But the other part is maybe chase did it so everyone would talk about it on every single forum all over the place. who knows

[ShakeZuma 585]

I mean a more interesting thing would have been to fast forward to a year in the future showing meadow having her child and saying I wish grandpa could have been here to see you, speaking to the baby. At least to show the closure would have been good. I think a lot could have been said even without seeing tony gunned down.

I'm gonna have to go with "no."I'm still pissed at the ending. I think hank's right. Fucking chase just wanted to confuse everybody and make people argue over what really happened. I'm sticking with tony being alive cause I want more. Just a little more. 4, maybe 5 seasons. Thats all.oh, and I have listened to "Don't Stop Believing" no less than 5 times today.

[byaaatch 0]

and I have listened to "Don't Stop Believing" no less than 5 times today.

I am getting really sick of that damn song now too.

[crowTrobot 2]

I am getting really sick of that damn song now too.

i've been sick of that song for 26 years.

[Jadaki 0]

Really if you think about it, the ending is just the beginning. It all comes full circle.Tony family, business in line again - checkCarmella being appeased by working on that old shore house - checkMeadow being successful - checkAJ happy suddenly when parents spoil him - checkTony still being under investigation with the constant threat of violence around him - check

[rookie2619 0]

Heres another point i ran across on the HBO message boards & i think its an interesting point as well.Here is what happened..> Tony did not get whacked. His fate is much worse and> was revealed in his visit to Uncle Junior. He was> looking at himself in the future. This is confirmed> in two scenes. 1. Tony tells Uncle Junior that he> used to run North Jersey. Uncle Jun says "I did"? 2.> AJ says that you have to focus on the good things in> life. Tony asks.."who told you that"? AJ says, "You> did" Tony says,> "I did"?

[Rodney21a 1]

Sorry The Shakespear angle with Brutus doesn't check out. At no time during the play does Brutus say anything close to "I live to serve you my leages (sp?)." If you want to draw any Caesarian comparisons between Pauly Walnuts and Anthony then Pauly would be closer to Mark Anthony than Brutus, they were trusted soldiers. Mark Anthony never betrayed Caesar and was his staunch loyalist. If anything Bigpussy was more of the Brutus character which brings me to the cat. Bigpussy was Bigpussy because he was a CAT burglar. The cat symbolizes him and it is staring at Christopher's picture because they were both murdered by Tony.So that last scene with Pauly shows the he is the last soldier standing as it should be, because he was ultimately loyal to Tony. Remember the painting? He even was going to just take his potential murder by Tony as just part of his duty. Remember the fishing trip in Florida? This is a guy who would never conspire with anybody to betray Tony. Besides his only ally with the New York family was Johnny Sacks who ultimately told him that the boss of New York had never heard of him.Tony is a person who is good that has been corrupted by what he does. Over the course of the show he is becoming what he does but what ever light or good thats is in him sees him through danger. For example, in the first season he is almost killed by a guy while driving his SUV but fate saves him. He is mortally wounded by his Uncle but fate gives him a shot to beat the odds and the physical manifestation of his goodness, Meadow, brings him out of Purgatory or Hell. He is in an accident with Christopher but suffers minor injuries while Christopher dies, although helped along by Tony. Tony is a person who is not a sociopath. The show has ultimately been about how the conflict between his good nature is conflict with the ugly world he lives in and it's corruption of him. Thats why he had the panic attacks. Thats is why he is seeing the therapist and thats how the show began. Tony isn't physically dead at the end of the show but the show was the journey of his spiritual death. That was the conflict of the show. That is was the straw that stirred the drink that was the Sopranos.

[Rodney21a 1]

Chase on the final sceneDavid Chase is (hiding out) in France at the moment, but he told New Jersey Star-Ledger TV critic Alan Sepinwall some interesting things about the ending. Sepinwall quotes Chase as saying "I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there ...No one was trying to be audacious, honest to God. "We did what we thought we had to do. No one was trying to blow people's minds, or thinking, 'Wow, this'll (tick) them off.' People get the impression that you're trying to (mess) with them and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them."Chase has been adamant about not doing a Sopranos Film. I think in a years time they all would love to cash in on a Movie. I see it being one of those "two movies shot at the same time" type of productions. Millions of dollars are hard to just say "no" to.

[Jadaki 0]

Chase has been adamant about not doing a Sopranos Film. I think in a years time they all would love to cash in on a Movie. I see it being one of those "two movies shot at the same time" type of productions. Millions of dollars are hard to just say "no" to.

Gandolfini doesn't want to do anything else as Tony Soprano either, going to be hard to get a bunch of people together to do a movie with roles they don't want to play and stories they don't want to revisit.

[Jadaki 0]

Sopranos Ending NewsLooks like Meadow was supposed to go in and sit down with the family.Chase says no plans to do a movie

[jeff_536 3]

Sopranos Ending NewsLooks like Meadow was supposed to go in and sit down with the family.Chase says no plans to do a movie

As we know, Chase filmed three different endings to ensure secrecy.

[SonnyBarger 0]

Sorry The Shakespear angle with Brutus doesn't check out. At no time during the play does Brutus say anything close to "I live to serve you my liege."

I think the reference is more to a line in the HBO/BBC series "Rome" which also differs from Shakespeare in that in the Senate, as he's dying, Caesar says nothing to Brutus.

[Rodney21a 1]

I think the reference is more to a line in the HBO/BBC series "Rome" which also differs from Shakespeare in that in the Senate, as he's dying, Caesar says nothing to Brutus.

I thought that movie/ series kinda stunk. Liked the T and A though. Historically speaking then the appropriate phrase would be, "Sic semper tyrannis". "Thus always to tyrants" or "Thus ever it be with tyrants". John Wilkes booth said this Abraham Lincoln before he whacked him and it has been accredited to Brutus when he stabbed Caesar. If Tony was anything he WASN'T a tyrant. If you go by the show Carmela tells his sister, "Tony isn't a vindictive man...". Tony wasn't a vindictive person. He was a guy who just kind of, though circumstance, ended up as head of the family. Constantly through ought the show he would lament about wanting to have just been a Capo. With old Man Demio stuck in prison for life and cancer taking his best friends life(Jackie Aprile ) circumstance moved him towards his position as Boss. If the last few shows showed anything it showed how the Vindictive Phil was ultimately foiled by the smart thinking reason over passion Tony. Don't get me wrong, Tony could go off like he did against Cocco after that crap with Meadow. However he would do anything protect her. Remember when Johny Sack cried at his daughter's wedding. All the made guys were ashamed of the "womanly" behavior. Tony said, "when it comes to daughters all bets are off". So that American history X reaction was to be expected. Back on point.Paulie would NEVER sell out Tony.

[Rodney21a 1]

Gandolfini doesn't want to do anything else as Tony Soprano either, going to be hard to get a bunch of people together to do a movie with roles they don't want to play and stories they don't want to revisit.

"I'm not being coy," he (Chase)added. "If something appeared that really made a good 'Sopranos' movie and you could invest in it and everybody else wanted to do it, I would do it. But I think we've kind of said it and done it."Give it time. In Hollywood the bottom line, Money, rules all. You as a fan of Entourage should know that. It can happen (a movie)but at this point it's not Probable.

[ShakeZuma 585]

Give it time. In Hollywood the bottom line, Money, rules all. You as a fan of Entourage should know that. It can happen (a movie)but at this point it's not Probable.

jesus titty fucking christ I hope they do make a movie. I'd buy tickets now. for $100. please. somebody email this to chase. god damn it.

[Loismustdie 0]

jesus titty fucking christ I hope they do make a movie. I'd buy tickets now. for $100. please. somebody email this to chase. god damn it.

I wouldn't. Here is my take on why there was no closure: Why not? This series has been the absolute best/worst at thumbing it's nose to the viewers for years, why stop now? 2 year hiatuses- what for? So someone can do a USA movie about Heidi Fleiss? So James Gandolfini and practically everyone else can do **** just as they did before the show came along? This show absolutely got off on making us wait, and I think that was the point. There is no ending, life goes on, it does not end neatly, because that is what we have been about from day one. As far as the creator claiming he wasn't dicking with the viewers, **** you. 3 endings and you just happen to go with the one that tells the viewers to **** off and get a life?

[SonnyBarger 0]

"I'm not being coy," he (Chase)added. "If something appeared that really made a good 'Sopranos' movie and you could invest in it and everybody else wanted to do it, I would do it. But I think we've kind of said it and done it."Give it time. In Hollywood the bottom line, Money, rules all. You as a fan of Entourage should know that. It can happen (a movie)but at this point it's not Probable.

Well, I for one would never bet against there being a Sopranos movie, even if has to be, as Stevie Van Zandt suggested, a prequel.

[uncooper 1]

Well, I for one would never bet against there being a Sopranos movie, even if has to be, as Stevie Van Zandt suggested, a prequel.

Yea, the author of the Star Ledger interview/article speculated that if there was a movie it would be set in Newark in the 60s and be all about Tony's father and Uncle Junior and their rise in the family. It would obviously include a deeper look into T's upbringing and the relationship's in his childhood household.