1/2 - Kj Off In The Bb

[thecamelot 0]

Seems standard to me... Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is BB with [Jd], [Ks]. 2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.Flop: (3 SB) [5s], [3s], [As] (3 players)SB bets, Hero raises, MP1 folds, SB calls.Turn: (3.50 BB) [3h] (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: (3.50 BB) [2s] (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.Final Pot: 5.50 BB

[Zach6668 513]

Not much else you can do. NH.- Zach

[Actuary 3]

I think taking the free card was good.Pot small

[doubleatrain 0]

I think taking the free card was good.Pot small

Very much agreed.Nice hand.

[Zach6668 513]

Very much agreed.Nice hand.

I'm also in agreement.- Zach

[pokerkid 0]

anyone bet the turn here?anyone raise it pf?

[RISEorFall 0]

anyone bet the turn here?anyone raise it pf?

I hate taking free cards HU, so I prolly bet, although that doesnt mean its right or wrong.no raise PF. if we were CO or button and wanted to isolate the limper, sure.

[doubleatrain 0]

anyone raise it pf?

I don't like the idea of raising PF, because we're three handed with a moderate offsuit holding stuck in between two players. Not my favorite time to put more money in the pot.

[Zach6668 513]

I don't like the idea of raising PF, because we're three handed with a moderate offsuit holding stuck in between two players. Not my favorite time to put more money in the pot.

Yup

[thecamelot 0]

Agreed, I'd raise as CO or button, but not in the BB.Question, would you raise KJs in the BB with the same preflop action?

[doubleatrain 0]

Agreed, I'd raise as CO or button, but not in the BB.Question, would you raise KJs in the BB with the same preflop action?

That's one of those spots where I recognize I probably should raise in theory (or at least be more likely to raise, depending on the relative tightness of the limpers), but I don't actually in practice.All in all, if you've got two tight players who are for some reason limping, it's not the best idea to raise KJ out of position. If they're weak players preflop and post flop, there's probably value in it. Three handed though, if the limpers have any standards at all, you don't have a very large preflop edge, hence the only raising it if you know they're loose/weak.I could very well be very very wrong though, and this is something I'd like more info on if I am in fact wrong.

[Zach6668 513]

That's one of those spots where I recognize I probably should raise in theory (or at least be more likely to raise, depending on the relative tightness of the limpers), but I don't actually in practice.All in all, if you've got two tight players who are for some reason limping, it's not the best idea to raise KJ out of position. If they're weak players preflop and post flop, there's probably value in it. Three handed though, if the limpers have any standards at all, you don't have a very large preflop edge, hence the only raising it if you know they're loose/weak.I could very well be very very wrong though, and this is something I'd like more info on if I am in fact wrong.

This is a good post.- Zach

[Actuary 3]

rethinking here..........Peel flop.Don't raise.( do like that we took free card. Bigger pot, I'd bet turn)

[Zach6668 513]

rethinking here..........Peel flop.Don't raise.( do like that we took free card. Bigger pot, I'd bet turn)

Why are you just peeling?

[Actuary 3]

Small PotStrong DrawNo reason to push 3rd player out.

[Zach6668 513]

Small PotStrong DrawNo reason to push 3rd player out.

Sold.

[pokerkid 0]

What about the all important fold equity?As a general comment about FCP strat, I think we all undervalue our FE.

[devilsslide 0]

I think I just call on the flop.<<<reading replies>>>I was feeling pretty insecure until I read Actuary's rethinking post... I feel a little better now

[Zach6668 513]

What about the all important fold equity?As a general comment about FCP strat, I think we all undervalue our FE.

What is your fold equity when you check behind and take the free turn?Zero.- Zach

[Actuary 3]

What is your fold equity when you check behind and take the free turn?Zero.- Zach

I think PK would bet turn too.To which I say, pot too small, losing value trying that here, imo.

[Pancake407 0]

didnt read replies: I usually just call on this flop. It's a small pot, we have a draw to the nuts, i'd like to keep the other player around if possible.-read replies-wow, i did something right.

[antistuff 0]

If I raise that flop I always bet the turn.I see that others are saying the pot isnt big enough to raise and you should just call. How big would it have to be to raise here?

[Actuary 3]

If I raise that flop I always bet the turn.I see that others are saying the pot isnt big enough to raise and you should just call. How big would it have to be to raise here?

I'd probably raise at 6 SB 3-handedSo, if it was raised preflop.