Corrado 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 you are dealt queen/jack suited .. 3 people call but last guys rasies 8 dollars...do you fold or call .. ??flop comes *** FLOP *** [9h Kc 8d].. i bet small... guy bets large ?? ... do you fold ,raise,call .. ??Dealt to BLUEYEDWOP [Qh Jh]edited out: calls $0.50edited out: folds edited out: calls $0.50edited out: calls $0.50hotnuts: folds BLUEYEDWOP: raises $0.50 to $1fish : raises $7 to $8edited out: folds edited out: folds BLUEYEDWOP: calls $7*** FLOP *** [9h Kc 8d]BLUEYEDWOP: bets $0.50fish: raises $7.50 to $8BLUEYEDWOP: calls $7.50*** TURN *** [9h Kc 8d] [5h]BLUEYEDWOP: bets $0.50fish: raises $19.50 to $20BLUEYEDWOP: raises $14.40 to $34.40 and is all-infish: calls $14.40*** RIVER *** [9h Kc 8d 5h] [Td]edited out said, "wow"*** SHOW DOWN ***BLUEYEDWOP: shows [Qh Jh] (a straight, Nine to King)edited out : mucks hand BLUEYEDWOP collected $99.05 from pot Link to post Share on other sites
AceyDeucy 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 You're in late postion, so I would look at the flop for the price of a limp. Calling the overraise pf was an error. Ever move after until you pushed on the made straight was really really wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Corrado 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 hmmm okay Link to post Share on other sites
AceyDeucy 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 hmmm okay Okay, what was your plan, exactly? What did you put him on? Did you think your hand was good preflop? Postflop? Why was a backdoor flush and an inside straight draw worth calling a bet at least the size of the pot on the flop? Why were you minbetting into a large pot? Why are you going all-in over a 2/3 pot bet with only 2/3 of the going bet with a gutshot and a flush draw (which may or may not be live) when you are guaranteed to get called? Link to post Share on other sites
Corrado 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 Okay, what was your plan, exactly? What did you put him on? Did you think your hand was good preflop? Postflop? Why was a backdoor flush and an inside straight draw worth calling a bet at least the size of the pot on the flop? Why were you minbetting into a large pot? Why are you going all-in over a 2/3 pot bet with only 2/3 of the going bet with a gutshot and a flush draw (which may or may not be live) when you are guaranteed to get called?i put him on a small pair which he had ...just wanted to know if suited connectors are a slice of pie or a sour lemon Link to post Share on other sites
AceyDeucy 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 i put him on a small pair which he had ...just wanted to know if suited connectors are a slice of pie or a sour lemon*sighs* Been trolling long?Suited connectors are fine in multiway pot. Heads-up, not so much, but with a friendly flop they can be powerful hands. The way it was played on this hand, horrible. You had a drawing hand, he had a made hand. He did not play it especially well, but you played it considerably worse, seeing as how you got your whole stack in as an underdog. Of course, if he knew you would call off your whole stack on a draw, he played it great.However, I don't think you are interested in the actual analysis here, so I won't bother with more. Link to post Share on other sites
profxavier9 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 you should have folded pre flop. the min bets are cute lol...YOur just asking him to come over the top of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Corrado 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 i guess you are correct...good thing i rivered a straight Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Let's review the action here, shall we?Preflop: Called an overbet with a hand that can't possibly be ahead.Flop: Basically told your opponent aloud that you're weak; called a large raise without the right odds to call.Turn: Told your opponent aloud that you're drawing and don't want to have to pay too much to see the river. Then reraised when faced with a large bet in a situation where you have zero fold equity and you can't possibly win unless you hit your draw.If you want any more tips on what you're doing wrong, don't hesitate to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 lol.this doesn't belong in strat.by far one of the worst hands i've seen played.this is donkey stuff. You got sick lucky. hahahhahahaha- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I like how you labelled the other guy "fish".Half the table probably has you buddy listed. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 All of our responses are probably unnecessary. I'm forced to believe this is a joke, right? Link to post Share on other sites
PotemkinCity 1 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 wow, nice suck out, congrats. hope you didn't donk those chips off within ten minutes because playing like that, you are certainly a target, big time. I'd have to agree with whoever said that those min bets were cute, seriously, .50 into a pot over 15.00 on the flop, and then close to 30.00 on the turn, and then jamming with the gutshot....brilliant. have you written a book on online poker yet? Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Actually, he turned the flush draw so he had 12 outs at that point. That's how I knew the post wasn't a joke. The hand kinda makes sense if you're on tilt and you don't want to fold under any circumstances. The ones that are supposed to be jokes always have some of these special hallmarks:1) opponent has pocket aces2) hero has terrible preflop hand3) hero hits miracle draw4) hero gets value-bet in after hitting miracle draw, supposedly justifying himself5) hero repeatedly talks about what a stupid fish his opponent was6) hero talks about what a great player he is7) hero talks about he's going to make millions playing way over his BRThis has like maybe one of those, tops. Just a serious post by a typical poor low-lmit player here. Link to post Share on other sites
FullDeck 0 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 To say, that, you, should, NOT, call, the raise................................................THIS, IS, THE, MISTAKE..............................................................................FOLDING, HERE, IS, A, MISTAKE, &, LET, ME, TELL, YOU, WHY, IT IS.............1ST, OF, ALL, IT, IS, A, MISTAKE, IF THE, PERSON, WAS, NOT, I, REPEAT, NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IN, EITHER, THE, SMALL, OR, THE, BIG, BLIND.............................................THESE, OTHER, PLAYER'S, DON'T, EVEN, EXPALAIN, THEIR, POST'S, SO?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????WHY, SHOULD, YOU, EVEN, LISTEN, TO, THEM, IF, THEY, ARE, NOT, GOING, 2wo, EXPAIN, THEIR, POST'S, AND, THEY, DON'T, EVEN, KNOW, WHAT, IN, THE, LORDS, NAME, THEY, ARE, DOING, HALF, OF, THE, TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!A, CALL, IN, THIS, POSTION, IS, GOOD, BECAUES, YOU HAVE, A, NICE, HAND, &, YOU, WANT, TO, STAY, FLEXIBLE, WITH, YOUR, STRATEGY.........NOT, TO, MENTION... IF, YOU, MISS, THE, FLOP......................................THEN, YOU CAN JUST GET AWAY, FROM THE, HAND.......................................&, IF, YOU, HIT, A, GOOD, FLOP, YOUR, IN GOOD, SHAPE, BECAUSE, HE PROBALBY, DOENS'T HAVE, A HAND... LIKE, YOUR'S AND YOU CAN, BET, ON, THE, FLOP, BECAUSE, HE, WILL HAVE PROBALBY, MISSED, HIS, HAND, AND IS, NOW, PROBABLY, DRAWING, TO, A STRAIGHT, OR, AN, OVERPAIR........That, is, about, it.......................................................................................SO, CALL, THE, 8IGHT, IF, IT DIDN'T COME, FROM, THE BLIND'S, &, TRY, TO, HIT, THE, FLOP, &, SEE, WHAT, YOU, CAN, DO, W/, YOUR HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAT'S, ALL, FOR, THIS HAND.....................................................................GOOD, LUCK, ON, ALL, OF, YOUR, HAND'S, TODAY, TOMMOROW, &, IN, THE, FUTURE....................................................................................................Johnny Sac / Johnny Cab a.k.a. / Jonathan, Jacob, Kerr, THE IST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................................................................................................................Jonathan, Jacob K, E, R, R....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Link to post Share on other sites
FullDeck 0 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 you are dealt queen/jack suited .. 3 people call but last guys rasies 8 dollars...do you fold or call .. ??flop comes *** FLOP *** [9h Kc 8d].. i bet small... guy bets large ?? ... do you fold ,raise,call .. ??Dealt to BLUEYEDWOP [Qh Jh]edited out: calls $0.50edited out: folds edited out: calls $0.50edited out: calls $0.50hotnuts: folds BLUEYEDWOP: raises $0.50 to $1fish : raises $7 to $8edited out: folds edited out: folds BLUEYEDWOP: calls $7*** FLOP *** [9h Kc 8d]BLUEYEDWOP: bets $0.50fish: raises $7.50 to $8BLUEYEDWOP: calls $7.50*** TURN *** [9h Kc 8d] [5h]BLUEYEDWOP: bets $0.50fish: raises $19.50 to $20BLUEYEDWOP: raises $14.40 to $34.40 and is all-infish: calls $14.40*** RIVER *** [9h Kc 8d 5h] [Td]edited out said, "wow"*** SHOW DOWN ***BLUEYEDWOP: shows [Qh Jh] (a straight, Nine to King)edited out : mucks hand BLUEYEDWOP collected $99.05 from potYOU, PLAYED, YOUR, HAND, CLOSE, TO, PERFECT........................................THE, ONLY, THING, I, WOULD, HAVE, DONE, DIFFERENTLY, IS, RE-RASIE, THE ORIGINAL, BETTOR, WITH, YOUR QhJh, &, GET, YOU, &, THE, OTHER, PLAYER'S, TRAPPED, IN, 4, A BIG, HAND, OR, RAISE, THEM, OUT, OF, THE HAND.........................................................................................................THIS, IS, WHAT, I, WOULD, HAVE, DONE, BUT, OTHER, THAN, THAT, YOU PLAYED, THE, HAND, VERY, WELL, AND, (DEPENDING ON THE POSTION, YOU WERE IN, IN, THIS, HAND) WHAT, YOU DID, BY, CALLING, TO, SEE, THE, FLOP, WAS, &, IS, PROBABLY, A, BETTER, OR, THE, BEST, OPTION, FOR, THE HAND.......................................................................................................BUT, I, HAVE, A, SUPER-AGGRESSIVE, STYLE, OF, PLAY, SO, I, PROBALBY, WOULD, HAVE, RE-RASIED, TO, GET, THE, OTHER, PLAYER'S, OUT, OF, THE, HAND, OR, PRICE, THEM, IN, SO, THEY, HAVE, TO, PAY, OFF, ALL, OF, THE, HAND'S, INVOLVED..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................THAT'S JUST WHAT, I WOULD, DO, YOU, MIGHT, CHOOSE, A, DIFFERENT, OPTION, THAT'S JUST A, MATTER, OF, YOUR, PERSONAL, OPINION...............THAT'S ALL FOR, NOW, FOLK'S....................................................................GOOD, LUCK, ON, ALL, OF, YOUR, HANDS, TODAY, &, IN, THE, FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Johnny / Sac, / Johnny, Cab, / Jonathan Jacob Kerr, The Ist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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lostless 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Nodbody even mentioned the min raise preflop after 3 callers. Don't min raise. Especially after 3 callers. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Nodbody even mentioned the min raise preflop after 3 callers. Don't min raise. Especially after 3 callers. Link to post Share on other sites
insano 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I never would have made the call pre-flop. But then again I like money, so to each his own. Link to post Share on other sites
srblan 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 QJ and KQ are probably the most overrated hands in NL hold 'em. Minraises suck. Minbets are worse. If you were playing with me, I probably would have said "You must have made the right play, since you won, right?" Link to post Share on other sites
offmandh 0 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 lol.this doesn't belong in strat.by far one of the worst hands i've seen played.this is donkey stuff. You got sick lucky. hahahhahahaha- Jordani agree with this but i would have said it nicely. Link to post Share on other sites
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