cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 one thing i find very anoying is having to defend poker to so many people who say to me on a day to day basis "there is too much luck in poker, there is a ltitle skill in it but the luck factor is too big" or "poker is all luck if u think its skill your a moron". i deal with this about every 5 mins in my day every day. it is iritating but i do always take on the challenge of explaining it to many people and defend myself. anyone else have this problem? Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 no. tell them it is all luck and then invite them to a game.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 one thing i find very anoying is having to defend poker to so many people who say to me on a day to day basis "there is too much luck in poker, there is a ltitle skill in it but the luck factor is too big" or "poker is all luck if u think its skill your a moron". i deal with this about every 5 mins in my day every day. it is iritating but i do always take on the challenge of explaining it to many people and defend myself. anyone else have this problem?I think most ppl who dont play would say this. Just let them think that. YOU know that you are using you mind and strtegy when you play, nd thats all you have to know....keep it up, ignore the naysayers. Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 its all about strategery Link to post Share on other sites
cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 yea i used the "worm and mike" thing from rounders and played with some guys who thought i didnt play lol. they accoually sucked out alot and i lost but you know.... Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Sounds like a terrible problem. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Why do you think the same five guys make it to the final table of the World Series of Poker EVERY YEAR? What, are they the luckiest guys in Las Vegas? Link to post Share on other sites
cu in 4years Dan 1 Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 Sounds like a terrible problem.i didnt say it was a terrible problem i said it was anoying Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 i didnt say it was a terrible problem i said it was anoying..kinda weird.I think the same of your presence on this site. Link to post Share on other sites
CardWarfare 4 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 ..kinda weird.I think the same of your presence on this site.owch. i heard that smack all the way over here Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 There is plenty of luck in Poker, anyone who thinks otherwise is infact a moron.Theres only enough skill involved to make long term effects +EV for skilled players.a perfect example of this was a HU match i played last night, i won 2/3 of the hands played, but still lost because him pushing all in and me being forced to call with good hands, but getting outdrawn.No skill there. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Its all luck, anyone who thinks its skill is a moron Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 It is annoying. Equally annoying is people who tell me to "Be careful" as if I have the gambling problem they do. I tell them I'll be fine and offer them odds on whether or not I'll go broke. Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 shrug and nod, be glad most of the poeple you're playing against are just looking to gamble. Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Why are you trying to convince them that there is any skill involved at all? Encourage them if anything. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 ..kinda weird.I think the same of your presence on this site.Wow, your coming out party must have not gone so well, you are in quite the mood today. Link to post Share on other sites
TS Clark 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Who are you talking to and what about that this subject is getting raised so often? Are you just going around to random people and telling them you play poker and what do they think about that? It seems odd to me that you're getting this so often. I'm sure your post was full o' hyperbole, but still.When people say this to you, though, just tell them, "Yes, I know. But I slept with a leperchaun once and you know what that means." Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Ah, "hyperbole"...the educated man's way of saying "Bullshit". Link to post Share on other sites
Mandor2005 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I personally love it when people think like this. I play in a weekly $20 buy in and there are always the two people that think its all luck. I don't correct them I just end up taking thier money Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Tye 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The majority of it is luck, don't kid yourself people. It is just that the smart players / better players put themselves in a position to be lucky more often. Lucky their hand held up, lucky they hit their flush, lucky the other player folded the best hand to a bluff, etc ... Link to post Share on other sites
blackntan06 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I personally love it when people think like this. I play in a weekly $20 buy in and there are always the two people that think its all luck. I don't correct them I just end up taking thier money Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJoe 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The majority of it is luck, don't kid yourself people. It is just that the smart players / better players put themselves in a position to be lucky more often. Lucky their hand held up, lucky they hit their flush, lucky the other player folded the best hand to a bluff, etc ...... and i guess Micheal Jordon is lucky the ball goes in the basket, Wayne Gretzky is lucky the goalie missed the save and Tiger Woods is lucky his drive went that far. Or i guess far closer to the point... i guess casinos are LUCKY they win more than they lose, damn casinos, luckiest SOBs in the world Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 ... and i guess Micheal Jordon is lucky the ball goes in the basket, Wayne Gretzky is lucky the goalie missed the save and Tiger Woods is lucky his drive went that far. Or i guess far closer to the point... i guess casinos are LUCKY they win more than they lose, damn casinos, luckiest SOBs in the worldYou're lucky you made it this far in life if you are comparing physical sports with poker and fail to see that you sound like a tool.If you could compare poker and golf, and match levels of skill, than a Bot should consistantly win with the perfect programmed knowledge.Think about it, In golf, a driver testing machine can hit thousands of golf balls over and over always on the sweet spot down the middle of the fairway. If i had this machine at every Tee deck, i'd be a sick golfer.You put on poker bot in a similar situation relating to poker, and the board reads 8,8,4 and you have A,8 and the bot has 4,4, its correct to call , the river brings an Ace and the bot loses after making the correct perfect call.Seems like its "skill" ran out but whats that??? the golf swing machine is still cranking out 290 yd drives down the middle Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 You're lucky you made it this far in life if you are comparing physical sports with poker and fail to see that you sound like a tool.If you could compare poker and golf, and match levels of skill, than a Bot should consistantly win with the perfect programmed knowledge.Think about it, In golf, a driver testing machine can hit thousands of golf balls over and over always on the sweet spot down the middle of the fairway. If i had this machine at every Tee deck, i'd be a sick golfer.You put on poker bot in a similar situation relating to poker, and the board reads 8,8,4 and you have A,8 and the bot has 4,4, its correct to call , the river brings an Ace and the bot loses after making the correct perfect call.Seems like its "skill" ran out but whats that??? the golf swing machine is still cranking out 290 yd drives down the middleI thought it was a good analogy. Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I thought it was a good analogy.which one? mine, or the previous poster?If you wanna compare poker to something, compare it to some sort of other card game, or scrabble, or monopoly Link to post Share on other sites
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