Jamie 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 In no order....Johnny Chan-Two back to back wins followed by a 2nd in the WSOP. 10 bracelets overall in a variety of games. His style of calling in positions where other top players would raise is unique. A top player in every sense of the word. Great to see him staying ahead of Phil Hellmuth too. One of his weaknesses is though, he is not a top player at all forms of poker. He isn't as bad as some ie he doesn't just specialize in ''No-Limit texas hold 'em tournaments'' or ''Pot-Limit Omaha short handed cash games'' for example, he can play many games, but he is not a great player at all games.Barry Greenstein-Great at everything. One of the top cash game players in any game. Maybe he is more known for his nickname [the robin-hood of poker] more than his genuine talent and skill in poker. His book, Ace on the River, backs this up too. In my opinion, he has no real weaknesses. The only thing I would like to see him do differently is maybe show some bit of emotion, instead of just sitting there like a statue, even a smile when he wins a hand, or sympathetic look when he knocks a player out of a tournament. Not too much emotion of course, cause one of the great things about Greenstein is he isn't a tv player, but a little bit more wouldn't hurt.Daniel Negreanu-His talent of knowing where he is in a hand is absolutely amazing. He always wants to be the best at all games. A true poker genius. He is also just about as good a spokesperson for poker that you could ask for, good sense of humour, relatively normal looking, good personality and fairly intelligent. His weaknesses aren't directly related to his game (in fact, I think he could become the best player in the world if he realy went for it), its more that he doesn't want to play poker 24/7, and doesn't have the same drive a player like, for example, Phil Ivey has. I can completely relate to how he feels (although for me, it's not poker) and its fine, but so long as he fully concentrates when he does play, he'll still be at the top.Phil Ivey-Where to start ? Firstly, he seems to be, at least from tv appearences, one of the most unlucky poker players in the world ('03 world series-knocked out by Moneymaker, the whole losing with AQ every WPT final table [something like he lost 5/6 times], and his general rotten luck in the poker superstars I), but still, a) he takes it in his stride and doesnt go on a rant about it and B) he still does well even with this 'bad luck'. Now onto how good he is ! lol. Quite possibly the best ''poker'' player in the world. Not the best NLHE tournament player, not the best cash game player, not the best player at draw poker, but the best 'poker' player. He's top class at tournaments and cash games, and all types of poker. He has exceptional drive, great emotional control, great heart and excellent stamina. The only weakness I think he may have (and it could be argued that this not a weakness, but rather being too good) is that he plays cash games when a tournament finishes for the day, and sometimes plays in tournaments thinking about the cash game coming up afterwards. I think I read on greensteins website that when there wasnt a cash game on, Phil won the tournament, this happend in Monte Carlo and somewhere else that I can't recall.I always hate choosing the final person to fill up theese lists. Gus Hansen, Chau Giang, Chip Reese, Dan Harrington, Jennifer Harman, Andy Black, Carlos Mortensen, Howard Lederer all come to mind. But if I had to narrow it down, it would be either Chip Reese or Gus Hansen. Chip is considered the best poker player in the world, while Gus is a pure genius. Time to flip a coin, heads for Chip, tails for Gus.....ok it was heads.Chip Reese-Has been playing the 4k/8k (and the 8k/16k when there was one) since the beginning of time. Surely he must be the biggest overall winner, possibly Doyle Brunson. He doesn't play many tournaments, for the simple reason that he has no need to, but when his kids told him that they never saw him on tv, and didnt believe he played poker, he decided to play in the WPT event in Tunica, and got to the final table ! In my opinion, that had to be the most memorable final table in WPT history, theres even a book named after it ! Dont know what weaknesses he has, but the obvious is that he doesnt play many tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites
Bizzle 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 But if I had to narrow it down, it would be either Chip Reese or Gus Hansen.It was Gus, then he got hit by a bus.Welcome to the forum. Link to post Share on other sites
....Ian.... 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 think about it: whoare the 5 best rappers in the world?Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan(this thread is one big opinion, nothing else) Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 in random order10/8dreamclownmiss idahojayson webersmasharoo Link to post Share on other sites
chester97 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 think about it: whoare the 5 best rappers in the world?Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan(this thread is one big opinion, nothing else)now thats funny.although the sig pic will give me nightmares. Link to post Share on other sites
Silly_11 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 think about it: whoare the 5 best rappers in the world?Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan(this thread is one big opinion, nothing else)Dude that picture is tooooo creepy. For real. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I live for the day Phil Ivey stares me down from across the table while he figures out just how to ram that AK suited I'm holding right up my a$$. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Shakes 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Good List. My only problem is when you mentioned Andy Black as a potential for #5. Was that a joke? I didn't see an sw. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Chip ReeseChua GiangBarry GreensteinTed ForrestJohnny ChanNo particular order and based on overall skill Link to post Share on other sites
Habs Fan 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 And Barry Greenstein's nickname may be the Robin Hood of poker, but his real name is COUNT CHOCULA. Link to post Share on other sites
bayouboy 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 What? No Hellmuth??? Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Remember the post askls for best poker players, not best 5 NL tournament players Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 Good List. My only problem is when you mentioned Andy Black as a potential for #5. Was that a joke? I didn't see an sw. :-)well, he is Irish :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
bayouboy 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Remember the post askls for best poker players, not best 5 NL tournament playersYou obviously haven't read "How to play poker like the pro's". :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Shakes 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Good List. My only problem is when you mentioned Andy Black as a potential for #5. Was that a joke? I didn't see an sw. :-)well, he is Irish :wink:I notice your location now.How bout Donnachea O'Dea for 6 and Phil Laak for &7? Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,723 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 1. Chip Reese2. Phil Ivey3. Barry Greenstein4. Ted Forrest 5. Chau Giangbut they are al really close Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 What? No Hellmuth???no.and by the way, Johnny Chan is spelled c h r o z z o Link to post Share on other sites
commoncents 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 In no order....Johnny Chan-Two back to back wins followed by a 2nd in the WSOP. 10 bracelets overall in a variety of games. His style of calling in positions where other top players would raise is unique. A top player in every sense of the word. Great to see him staying ahead of Phil Hellmuth too. One of his weaknesses is though, he is not a top player at all forms of poker. He isn't as bad as some ie he doesn't just specialize in ''No-Limit texas hold 'em tournaments'' or ''Pot-Limit Omaha short handed cash games'' for example, he can play many games, but he is not a great player at all games.Barry Greenstein-Great at everything. One of the top cash game players in any game. Maybe he is more known for his nickname [the robin-hood of poker] more than his genuine talent and skill in poker. His book, Ace on the River, backs this up too. In my opinion, he has no real weaknesses. The only thing I would like to see him do differently is maybe show some bit of emotion, instead of just sitting there like a statue, even a smile when he wins a hand, or sympathetic look when he knocks a player out of a tournament. Not too much emotion of course, cause one of the great things about Greenstein is he isn't a tv player, but a little bit more wouldn't hurt.Daniel Negreanu-His talent of knowing where he is in a hand is absolutely amazing. He always wants to be the best at all games. A true poker genius. He is also just about as good a spokesperson for poker that you could ask for, good sense of humour, relatively normal looking, good personality and fairly intelligent. His weaknesses aren't directly related to his game (in fact, I think he could become the best player in the world if he realy went for it), its more that he doesn't want to play poker 24/7, and doesn't have the same drive a player like, for example, Phil Ivey has. I can completely relate to how he feels (although for me, it's not poker) and its fine, but so long as he fully concentrates when he does play, he'll still be at the top.Phil Ivey-Where to start ? Firstly, he seems to be, at least from tv appearences, one of the most unlucky poker players in the world ('03 world series-knocked out by Moneymaker, the whole losing with AQ every WPT final table [something like he lost 5/6 times], and his general rotten luck in the poker superstars I), but still, a) he takes it in his stride and doesnt go on a rant about it and B) he still does well even with this 'bad luck'. Now onto how good he is ! lol. Quite possibly the best ''poker'' player in the world. Not the best NLHE tournament player, not the best cash game player, not the best player at draw poker, but the best 'poker' player. He's top class at tournaments and cash games, and all types of poker. He has exceptional drive, great emotional control, great heart and excellent stamina. The only weakness I think he may have (and it could be argued that this not a weakness, but rather being too good) is that he plays cash games when a tournament finishes for the day, and sometimes plays in tournaments thinking about the cash game coming up afterwards. I think I read on greensteins website that when there wasnt a cash game on, Phil won the tournament, this happend in Monte Carlo and somewhere else that I can't recall.I always hate choosing the final person to fill up theese lists. Gus Hansen, Chau Giang, Chip Reese, Dan Harrington, Jennifer Harman, Andy Black, Carlos Mortensen, Howard Lederer all come to mind. But if I had to narrow it down, it would be either Chip Reese or Gus Hansen. Chip is considered the best poker player in the world, while Gus is a pure genius. Time to flip a coin, heads for Chip, tails for Gus.....ok it was heads.Chip Reese-Has been playing the 4k/8k (and the 8k/16k when there was one) since the beginning of time. Surely he must be the biggest overall winner, possibly Doyle Brunson. He doesn't play many tournaments, for the simple reason that he has no need to, but when his kids told him that they never saw him on tv, and didnt believe he played poker, he decided to play in the WPT event in Tunica, and got to the final table ! In my opinion, that had to be the most memorable final table in WPT history, theres even a book named after it ! Dont know what weaknesses he has, but the obvious is that he doesnt play many tournaments. IveyDoyleForestChanCloutier (no joke) Link to post Share on other sites
72offsuitt 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 1. Hellmuth - The man is a WORLD CHAMPION and has 9 freaking bracelets. BY far the best player player in the world. Also has killed the cash games.( Read his blog for details)2. The Mouth - The man won the TOC and Poker Superstars and never wins a race. Who else can win without ever catching a break and never winning a race?3. Greg Raymer - The man was the WORLD CHAMPION 2004 and almost again this past year. Amazing player. Great alround player.4. Joe Hachmen - He proved he was one of the best in the world by beating the largest field in history. 5. Chris Moneymaker - He embaressed Ivey in 2003 with his sick call and went on to teach Farha a few lessons. BLUFF of the century. Link to post Share on other sites
commoncents 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 1. Hellmuth - The man is a WORLD CHAMPION and has 9 freaking bracelets. BY far the best player player in the world. Also has killed the cash games.( Read his blog for details)2. The Mouth - The man won the TOC and Poker Superstars and never wins a race. Who else can win without ever catching a break and never winning a race?3. Greg Raymer - The man was the WORLD CHAMPION 2004 and almost again this past year. Amazing player. Great alround player.4. Joe Hachmen - He proved he was one of the best in the world by beating the largest field in history. 5. Chris Moneymaker - He embaressed Ivey in 2003 with his sick call and went on to teach Farha a few lessons. BLUFF of the century.wow.....just wow!!!!!this might be my top 5 worst!!!!also on my list of:IveyDoyleForestChan Cloutier.........(I might substitute Harrington or Jesus for TJ) Link to post Share on other sites
nritchi3 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 1. Hellmuth - The man is a WORLD CHAMPION and has 9 freaking bracelets. BY far the best player player in the world. Also has killed the cash games.( Read his blog for details)2. The Mouth - The man won the TOC and Poker Superstars and never wins a race. Who else can win without ever catching a break and never winning a race?3. Greg Raymer - The man was the WORLD CHAMPION 2004 and almost again this past year. Amazing player. Great alround player.4. Joe Hachmen - He proved he was one of the best in the world by beating the largest field in history. 5. Chris Moneymaker - He embaressed Ivey in 2003 with his sick call and went on to teach Farha a few lessons. BLUFF of the century.I really really hope this is a joke. If So: Haha. If Not: Thank you again Chris MoneyMaker for bringing us another fish. Thanks to you there is an abundance of people like this that allow be to pay for my tuition, living expenses and entertainment playing poker. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 i think it was a joke, and a good one Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 1. forrest2. ivey3. giang4. greenstein5. t. brunsonpwned Link to post Share on other sites
bm99 0 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don't understand how everyone can have chau on there. He has lost so much money in cash games lately and has done very little in tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites
joball33 0 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 I don't understand how everyone can have chau on there. He has lost so much money in cash games lately and has done very little in tournaments.Been playing in the Big Game lately?How the hell do you know how he's been doing in Cash Games? Link to post Share on other sites
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