TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 in Brunsons supers system, he says roughly "you will eitehr lose a big pot or won a small one"although i learned a lot about poker ove rthe last few years i never really understood this.and because doyle is a genius, i feel he didnt have too much difficulty learning this... and therefore has trouble explaining the concept to lesser mortals, because it seems as natural as eating cake to him.anyway, i finally realised that he means, if you get to see a flop in holdem, and your holding aces... you must then actively TRY AND KEEP THE POT SMALL. if this means check calling then so be it. DONT get yourself commited and down carry on with the hand like you got the KATS PYJAMAS... any flop is bad for aces. because your opponenet can have a set from any pair.this applies mainly to caysh... which is what hes on about..in tournements never fold them.take them home and **** them at the end of the event.so unless you can great action preflop, against a good player that wont overplay top pair.. put the F%£kin breaks on.peace. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 in Brunsons supers system, he says roughly "you will eitehr lose a big pot or won a small one"although i learned a lot about poker ove rthe last few years i never really understood this.and because doyle is a genius, i feel he didnt have too much difficulty learning this... and therefore has trouble explaining the concept to lesser mortals, because it seems as natural as eating cake to him.anyway, i finally realised that he means, if you get to see a flop in holdem, and your holding aces... you must then actively TRY AND KEEP THE POT SMALL. if this means check calling then so be it. DONT get yourself commited and down carry on with the hand like you got the KATS PYJAMAS... any flop is bad for aces. because your opponenet can have a set from any pair.this applies mainly to caysh... which is what hes on about..in tournements never fold them.take them home and censored them at the end of the event.so unless you can great action preflop, against a good player that wont overplay top pair.. put the F%£kin breaks on.peace.welcome to the club, have you learned to tie your shoes yet? Link to post Share on other sites
PhilHellmuth 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 take them home and censored them at the end of the event.i dunno man, i think the queens are a little hotter than the aces, altho a couple of the jacks are pretty hot. that one-eye thing is pretty sexy Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 You're a ****ing genius Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 in Brunsons supers system, he says roughly "you will eitehr lose a big pot or won a small one"although i learned a lot about poker ove rthe last few years i never really understood this.and because doyle is a genius, i feel he didnt have too much difficulty learning this... and therefore has trouble explaining the concept to lesser mortals, because it seems as natural as eating cake to him.anyway, i finally realised that he means, if you get to see a flop in holdem, and your holding aces... you must then actively TRY AND KEEP THE POT SMALL. if this means check calling then so be it. DONT get yourself commited and down carry on with the hand like you got the KATS PYJAMAS... any flop is bad for aces. because your opponenet can have a set from any pair.this applies mainly to caysh... which is what hes on about..in tournements never fold them.take them home and censored them at the end of the event.so unless you can great action preflop, against a good player that wont overplay top pair.. put the F%£kin breaks on.peace.welcome to the club, have you learned to tie your shoes yet? Link to post Share on other sites
kennyboy 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 ...While this may be true for higher limit games, doesn't it specifically say in SSHE that you should bet these (as well as KK) all the way to the river?(barring an obviously terrible flop, such as 3 of a suit, etc) Link to post Share on other sites
sholden 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 any flop is bad for aces. because your opponenet can have a set from any pair.AA7 is a bad flop how? Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 thank you for your welcome.have you learned NOT to send two posts with the same s h i * t y response yet?no.it was excruciatingly boring the first time, why put us all through it twice? Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 thank you for your welcome.have you learned NOT to send two posts with the same s h i * t y response yet?no.it was excruciatingly boring the first time, why put us all through it twice? Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 absolutely true kenny boy. Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 AA7 is a bad flop cos some one realistically is going to have two sevens to pay you any money...you clever little f %$k. Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 in Brunsons supers system, he says roughly "you will eitehr lose a big pot or won a small one"although i learned a lot about poker ove rthe last few years i never really understood this.and because doyle is a genius, i feel he didnt have too much difficulty learning this... and therefore has trouble explaining the concept to lesser mortals, because it seems as natural as eating cake to him.anyway, i finally realised that he means, if you get to see a flop in holdem, and your holding aces... you must then actively TRY AND KEEP THE POT SMALL. if this means check calling then so be it. DONT get yourself commited and down carry on with the hand like you got the KATS PYJAMAS... any flop is bad for aces. because your opponenet can have a set from any pair.this applies mainly to caysh... which is what hes on about..in tournements never fold them.take them home and censored them at the end of the event.so unless you can great action preflop, against a good player that wont overplay top pair.. put the F%£kin breaks on.peace.This is atrociously, HORRIBLY wrong. True, you should be caution with AA at times and learn when to let them go, but to say that "any flop is a bad flop for Aces" and that you should always try to keep the pot small is just stupid. If you play aces against one opponent and are always scared of a set, then you should just flat out stop playing poker. Yeah, Aces get cracked and you need to learn to realize when that happens and slow down a bit, but there's nothing wrong with trying to get all the chips in with AA on a 2 8 J board if you think your opponent could overplay top pair or think that their over pair (QQ) is good or something..... Link to post Share on other sites
kennyboy 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Yeah, while in higher limit games the oppenents may be more tricky, as well as know WHEN to fold, in the low limit games which most of us play, it's definately +EV to play these aggressively.You will push out lower hands some of the time, and you're making those lower pairs and draws pay for their chase. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 thank you for your welcome.have you learned NOT to send two posts with the same s h i * t y response yet?no.it was excruciatingly boring the first time, why put us all through it twice?we all certainly know what that means...and it posted twice because the forum is really slow today and the submit was lagging and i must have hit the button twice Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 This is atrociously, HORRIBLY wrong. True, you should be caution with AA at times and learn when to let them go, but to say that "any flop is a bad flop for Aces" and that you should always try to keep the pot small is just stupid. If you play aces against one opponent and are always scared of a set, then you should just flat out stop playing poker. Yeah, Aces get cracked and you need to learn to realize when that happens and slow down a bit, but there's nothing wrong with trying to get all the chips in with AA on a 2 8 J board if you think your opponent could overplay top pair or think that their over pair (QQ) is good or something.....Good post KK. I didn't want to waste my time responding to someone who obviously has huge flaws in his game and is belligerent as hell, but it needed to be said. Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 i was just trying to explain what i thoguht brunson meant Kowboy.he obviously meant something when he said it, and he isn't, generally atrociously wrong about anything.when i read the book 2 years ago, i found his thoughts on it slightly confusing so i thought id share my enlightenment. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 i was just trying to explain what i thoguht brunson meant Kowboy.he obviously meant something when he said it, and he isn't, generally atrociously wrong about anything.when i read the book 2 years ago, i found his thoughts on it slightly confusing so i thought id share my enlightenment.Except that you still aren't getting it. Smooth calling on any flop to keep the pot small is the stupidest thing I've read in quite some time. Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 if your so clever bill, the you should no that negative criticism helps noone.i dont express my thoughts on here for idiots like yourself to attack.in calling me beligerent, you were being beligerent yourself.i wasnt starting an argument.these arent my thoughts.. theyre an interpretation of brunsons.AND YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE THE COJONES TO SAY IT YOURSELF..YOU HAD TO WAIT FOR SOME ELSE AND THEN SAY"YEAH YEAH, HAD TO BE SAID..." SUCK SUCK.theres no cure for fools. Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 i was just trying to explain what i thoguht brunson meant Kowboy.he obviously meant something when he said it, and he isn't, generally atrociously wrong about anything.when i read the book 2 years ago, i found his thoughts on it slightly confusing so i thought id share my enlightenment.Except that you still aren't getting it. Smooth calling on any flop to keep the pot small is the stupidest thing I've read in quite some time.Word. WatchMan...don't try and argue against the BB and KK combo (kombo?). You will be destroyed. Link to post Share on other sites
Limit Player 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 i was just trying to explain what i thoguht brunson meant Kowboy.he obviously meant something when he said it, and he isn't, generally atrociously wrong about anything.when i read the book 2 years ago, i found his thoughts on it slightly confusing so i thought id share my enlightenment.I love when people like you misinterpret what they read in SS2 and give away all their mobney. Link to post Share on other sites
Limit Player 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 in calling me beligerent, you were being beligerent yourself.lol. i know you are but what am i.best. argument. ever. Link to post Share on other sites
TheWatchMan 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 it was super sytem one i was directly referncing, you negative a. r. s. e hole.although ive read two and its exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 if your so clever bill, the you should no that negative criticism helps noone.They help stupid people.i dont express my thoughts on here for idiots like yourself to attack.You wouldn't get attacked if you expressed your thoughts in a coherent, reasonable manner.in calling me beligerent, you were being beligerent yourself.Do you even know what that word means? Because it doesn't look like you do.i wasnt starting an argument.I know, but you were posting terrible poker advice. these arent my thoughts.. theyre an interpretation of brunsons.This is just an idiotic statement, and a complete cop out.AND YOU DIDNT EVEN HAVE THE COJONES TO SAY IT YOURSELF..YOU HAD TO WAIT FOR SOME ELSE AND THEN SAY"YEAH YEAH, HAD TO BE SAID..." SUCK SUCK.I just didn't want to waste my time explaining something to someone who isn't going to listen anyway.theres no cure for fools. Link to post Share on other sites
Limit Player 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 it was super sytem one i was directly referncing, you negative a. r. s. e hole.although ive read two and its exactly the same.then why mention that?lol. getting dumber by the word. Link to post Share on other sites
STYLINHAWYN 0 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 any flop is bad for aces. because your opponenet can have a set from any pair.AA7 is a bad flop how?the guy sticking around with KQs is going to catch runner runner to royal up on the river Link to post Share on other sites
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