ace-queen is a solid hand.

[ArseneLupin3 0]

I won't bother to explain why this is a good bet, because anyone who doesn't think so won't listen anyway.

Please, AQ is a drawing hand and you missed your draw. Time to slow down. Just ask Smash and Lee Jones. They are tight.

Lee jones is considered to be one of the weakest poker authors in terms of strategy. This doesn't mean the strategies are bad, though. They're just weak, but otherwise profitable.-adam

[ArseneLupin3 0]

Not to be crass, but are you arguing for the sake of arguing?If not, I would like to see a hand where you folded AQ to one raise in EP.

If you're in a real hold'em game, AQ is an easy fold to an UTG or UTG+1 raise from any position other than maybe the BB or late. You fold against many (tight)players to avoid domination and reraise against loose players to isolate.-adam

[Eclypse 0]

...I would like to see a hand where you folded AQ to one raise in EP.

In the games I play in (3/6 or higher) AQo is an easy fold to an early positon raiser. I might re-raise if the raiser is the kind of guy that will raise with a KJ or something, but my standard play is to fold AQo.I would never cold-call a raise--it's either a re-raise or a fold (usually a fold).I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

[justblaze 0]

...I would like to see a hand where you folded AQ to one raise in EP.

In the games I play in (3/6 or higher) AQo is an easy fold to an early positon raiser. I might re-raise if the raiser is the kind of guy that will raise with a KJ or something, but my standard play is to fold AQo.I would never cold-call a raise--it's either a re-raise or a fold (usually a fold).I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

yeah you could be wrong. you are losing a lot of money if you toss AQo to every preflop EP raise. people raise with all kinds of things. 88 is an EP raising hand. you have huge odds, both pot and implied to call against this hand. KQ, while not a raising hand, is a hand that many players will raise with in EP. you kill this hand. the list goes on...

[Absolution 0]

I won't bother to explain why this is a good bet, because anyone who doesn't think so won't listen anyway.

Please, AQ is a drawing hand and you missed your draw. Time to slow down. Just ask Smash and Lee Jones. They are tight.

Lee jones is considered to be one of the weakest poker authors in terms of strategy. This doesn't mean the strategies are bad, though. They're just weak, but otherwise profitable.-adam

Note the sarcasm. It's an easy raise of course.

[Guest XXEddie]

Not to be crass, but are you arguing for the sake of arguing?If not, I would like to see a hand where you folded AQ to one raise in EP.

no, i was just saying that AQ is not THAT solid of a hand, IMO

[ArseneLupin3 0]

Please' date=' AQ is a drawing hand and you missed your draw. Time to slow down. Just ask Smash and Lee Jones. They are tight.[/quote']Lee jones is considered to be one of the weakest poker authors in terms of strategy. This doesn't mean the strategies are bad' date=' though. They're just weak' date=' but otherwise profitable.-adam[/quote'']Note the sarcasm. It's an easy raise of course.

Sorry.. reading it back over, I dunno why i even replied.I was tired :]-adam

[gadjet 11]

Crazy crazy argument… A-Q vs 9-10 a coinflip comment was funny…So was A-Q o being a borderline call but meanwhile A-Qs is an easy raise… ha! let me guess you play any two suited cards right?… All this talk about A-Q is making me not want to bother getting into the discussion so I'll leave it at that… but here's where I stand. I think A-Q is one of the stronger hands… ha! Going out on a limb there….

[Guest XXEddie]

i hope you know aqos is a coinflip against 9tsuited, and therefore is not as good as you think althoguh AQsuited in most instances desrves a raise preflop AQ off suit does not as always....idiots

I hope you know you are an idiotAQo v. 910s is NOT a coin flipsomething likeA3o v 910s....thats more like it

[elcapitan19 0]

I rarely call for a raise with these cards and sledom raise with them' date=' that way if I can get a cheap flop I can get away from the hand if there is any aggression on the flop.[/quote']I can see your point about rarely calling a raise with AQo, but I have to disagree with your second point about seldom raising AQo. If I'm going to play AQo, I like to be the raiser. So If it gets to me and no one has raised, I raise with AQo. The reason I do this is to thin the field (as AQo does better aqainst few opponents) and to protect my hand if I make top pair (since thats what we are trying to get). I want to force out those draws and make make people think twice about drawing against me. I generally use this strategy when trying to play combinations of face cards that are offsuit. If someone re-raises behind me, I'll call and then proceed with caution on the flop.Just a different of opinion.[/quoteNo, for the most part I do agree with you. The seldom situation I will raise with these cards is when I am in mid - late position and it's folded to me, but then again I will raise with a lot of cards in that situation. I still don't do it every time in that situation but do agree that you would like to thin the field with these cards when possible.Also someone else mentioned you can lose your whole stack with these cards at any limit. But I think if you are playing 2-4 or 3-6 or something like that with 200 in front of you, it is virtually impossible to lose that whole stack on one hand. In no limit, it can easily be gone when your AQ runs into AK.

[Quadrupled 0]

AQ has been killing me lately, but I am a rock pre-flop and I make the correct play and raise.

Raising with AQo in such a multiwaypot does not make sense to me, AQo needs few opponents to be a good solid hand, and in those situations you are often gonna be up against AK.In my experience, top pair+top kicker doesnt make the money in at these tables, I would rather raise with 89s than AQo here.

[Eclypse 0]

...I would like to see a hand where you folded AQ to one raise in EP.

In the games I play in (3/6 or higher) AQo is an easy fold to an early positon raiser. I might re-raise if the raiser is the kind of guy that will raise with a KJ or something, but my standard play is to fold AQo.I would never cold-call a raise--it's either a re-raise or a fold (usually a fold).I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

yeah you could be wrong. you are losing a lot of money if you toss AQo to every preflop EP raise. people raise with all kinds of things. 88 is an EP raising hand. you have huge odds, both pot and implied to call against this hand. KQ, while not a raising hand, is a hand that many players will raise with in EP. you kill this hand. the list goes on...

What makes you think I'd "toss AQo to every preflop EP raise"? I thought it was pretty clear in my post that I'd re-raise against players that raise in EP with weaker hands.If your main strategy is to call with AQo against an EP raiser, then it is you that is throwing money away.

[MrConceit 0]

i hope you know aqos is a coinflip against 9tsuited, and therefore is not as good as you think althoguh AQsuited in most instances desrves a raise preflop AQ off suit does not as always....idiots

I hope you know you are an idiotAQo v. 910s is NOT a coin flipsomething likeA3o v 910s....thats more like it

Shrug, to you and Blaze, he's just using the TV definition of a coinflip that they overuse. As someone else pointed out, it's like 57/43 for AKo vs QQ.Just to give an example I'm sure blaze already knows, but I'll give it anyway.This is AQo vs T9 suited.http://tinyurl.com/64n5dEV is 59/41JJ vs AKo:http://tinyurl.com/4xg7oEV is 57.3/42.7So yeah, I don't see how it's such a huge thing to call T9 suited as a coinflip when you're calling AK vs JJ a coin flip. It two cases are very similar. AK is a bit less of a dog, but a lot? Sorry.So basically I don't know why you bother to call him an idiot. This only applies to allin preflop of course, the JJ and the T9s play quite differently postflop, but it seems people are giving stats for if all 5 cards are dealt, so....

[Eclypse 0]

...I would like to see a hand where you folded AQ to one raise in EP.

In the games I play in (3/6 or higher) AQo is an easy fold to an early positon raiser. I might re-raise if the raiser is the kind of guy that will raise with a KJ or something, but my standard play is to fold AQo.I would never cold-call a raise--it's either a re-raise or a fold (usually a fold).I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

yeah you could be wrong. you are losing a lot of money if you toss AQo to every preflop EP raise. people raise with all kinds of things. 88 is an EP raising hand. you have huge odds, both pot and implied to call against this hand. KQ, while not a raising hand, is a hand that many players will raise with in EP. you kill this hand. the list goes on...

Huge odds, huh? Let’s say we’re playing 2/4 holdem. There’s $3 in blinds to start, then an EP player raises making it $4 to call and the pot is now $7. You are now getting 1.75-to-1 on your $4 call. Those are huge odds to you?And, by the way, AQo against 88 is a 55/45% dog.