an interesting situation....

[djmogwai 0]

Hello guys and gals! My first posting here, looking forward to some interesting answers for this most interesting hand I just played.It's taken from a freeze out tournament at my local cardclub. We are down to 5 people, 4 people get paid.Chipstacks: Me : 30kCutoff: 19k (guessing, but not much more)Button: 23kPerson in cutoff is a tight, solid player who at that point hadn't played a hand for almost 3 rounds. Button is more liberal in his hand selection, but generally solid and has shown some good hands.Blinds are 1k - 2k, and I was in the big blind with AdQd. Utg folds, cutoff raises to 6k. Button thinks about it for a while, then pushes in for 23k total. SB folds, and its up to me. What do I do? Any input is much appreciated.

[therrinn 0]

I would fold. AQ is definitely not a hand that you want to be calling all-ins with - if you're going to play it, you want to be the one being aggressive. It's possible that you're a coinflip, but also very possible that you're dominated or that even if you are flipping, some of your outs are gone.

[Hobbes 1]

I would fold, but you could probably talk yourself into calling. CO is tight and Button is a solid player, so he might be trying to steal this one thinking the CO will fold to his raise. If you call a raise and re-raise all-in, CO would have to have a very strong hand to call. So you'd be heads up against the Button in probably a coin flip situation with some dead money in there. But if the CO truly is a tight player, he would have to have a good hand to put in 1/3 of his chips pre-flop, so we can't count on him folding. Maybe I can't talk myself into it, I still think fold is correct.

[jmar 0]

Fold. His all-in is a good move. AQ is a terrible calling hand. What are you hoping he has? AJ or A10? KQ? AK is only good for a raise because a lot of the time the worst case is a coin toss. AQ is a good step below that. You can wait for a better chance.

[copernicus 0]

I would fold, but you could probably talk yourself into calling. CO is tight and Button is a solid player, so he might be trying to steal this one thinking the CO will fold to his raise. If you call a raise and re-raise all-in, CO would have to have a very strong hand to call. So you'd be heads up against the Button in probably a coin flip situation with some dead money in there. But if the CO truly is a tight player, he would have to have a good hand to put in 1/3 of his chips pre-flop, so we can't count on him folding. Maybe I can't talk myself into it, I still think fold is correct.

I will agree with your comment but first I need a cold shower from your avatar.

[HtotheNootch 0]

As far as I'm considered, it's not even a close decision. However, just for the sake of completeness, what were the folded stacks?Are they giants? Are they micros? What's your relative M?Even considering that, absent some seriously strong info, I fold the devil's hand in a shot.

[djmogwai 0]

Folded stacks were as follows:SB: 70k (huuuuuge chippie)UTG: not sure, but 15k is an accurate estimate i think.

[gobears 0]

What was the question...I'm still distracted by Hobbes' new avatar - who is that? Ok...back to the question...I would fold; CO has been tight so he probably has something decent and now Button comes over the top..You're one away from the payout. I think that it's an excellent time to fold and let someone be bubble boy.

[Big_Slick_86 0]

Personally I would definately bin the hand here. A-Q is a drawing hand at best, and at worst it can be hypnotic enough to draw you into calls that will bust your stack. I will, for the most part, only play it from the button if there are no raisers before me and I have got a decent size stack, and I will raise 4 x the BB to try and get as many people off the hand as I can. If I'm out of position and there's a raise, it's an automatic fold for me.I also want to be in a postion to get away from the pot if someone raises on the flop and I haven't hit any cards. In your case you've got a nice stack with a lot more bets left in it, my advice is be patient and try and bust the loose player with stronger hole cards.A good example to consider is a post I made yesterday where, ironically, I had gone against my own advice and called an all-in raise with A-Q. In this case the player I called had taken a couple of bad hits and had loosened up, and I had a good lead on him so could recover if he beat me. Although it paid off for me (he held A-3) I still question my decision to call as neither of us hit cards on the board, but it's interesting to note that he could have taken a large pot with a pair of 3's.

[djmogwai 0]

Hmmm, some very good answers here, thank you.I actually ended up folding the hand. My reasoning for that was that the CO would call, and I didnt want to be in a 3-way pot with a drawing hand.Patience is key in this game, and although something told me I had the button beat, this was not the time to race for the money.End result: CO folded too (claimed he had A5 suited), button flipped over Ks10s..... Oh well.

[AceyDeucy 0]

I laugh at AQs here. ESPECIALLY since there was an uberstack right behind the bettor, which means that he is in a very dangerous place to bluff.When he shows you KT, make amental note that he overvalues Doyle Brunson's "trouble hands" and be more will to call with TPTK later on.

[Big_Slick_86 0]

Where did you place in the tourney?

[Hobbes 1]

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I will agree with your comment but first I need a cold shower from your avatar.

What was the question...I'm still distracted by Hobbes' new avatar - who is that?

Shakira, always Shakira. Wherever, whenever. I got a lot more where that came from... :wink:

[copernicus 0]

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I will agree with your comment but first I need a cold shower from your avatar.

What was the question...I'm still distracted by Hobbes' new avatar - who is that?

Shakira, always Shakira. Wherever, whenever. I got a lot more where that came from... :wink:

Sorry man..the heck with Shakira when Acey Deucy is on board!

[Hobbes 1]

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I will agree with your comment but first I need a cold shower from your avatar.

What was the question...I'm still distracted by Hobbes' new avatar - who is that?

Shakira, always Shakira. Wherever, whenever. I got a lot more where that came from... :wink:

Sorry man..the heck with Shakira when Acey Deucy is on board!

This is just for you, Coper...Edit so this makes a little sense: temporary avatar =

[copernicus 0]

blah blah blah

I will agree with your comment but first I need a cold shower from your avatar.

What was the question...I'm still distracted by Hobbes' new avatar - who is that?

Shakira, always Shakira. Wherever, whenever. I got a lot more where that came from... :wink:

Sorry man..the heck with Shakira when Acey Deucy is on board!

This is just for you, Coper...

I take it all back, you da man.

[oceansize 0]

Fold, you're one spot from the pay off circle and could be one going out this hand. You've also got a decent enough stack where you want to lead the action with hands like AQ, not call All-Ins with it especially before a flop.

[AceyDeucy 0]

There is no degree of hotness that cannot be overcome by sheer nudity.Oh, what was the topic of the post?

[Hobbes 1]

There is no degree of hotness that cannot be overcome by sheer nudity.Oh, what was the topic of the post?

Supersized. Good times.

[djmogwai 0]

Big_Slick_86: I finished fourth in the tourney, so I got payed! 8)