barrygreenstein

[ksean9999 0]

had anyone read the player profiles on barrygreenstein.com?total garbage IMO.barry rates joe sebok basically about the same as many top pros.he rates joe a '7' in ' NLHE and also rates ivey the same - and chan too if i remember correctly. how is that possible that some kid who just learned how to play is already at the same level as ivey or chan in ANY aspect of poker whatsoever?certainly doesn't say much for ivey or chan.i know it's his son or half-son or whatever and i'm sure that joe is a decent player but cmon. if barry can't be objective then why even put him on the list.

[HoosierAlum 0]

"Ace on the River" pwns.

[kouta43 0]

"Ace on the River" pwns.

[No_Neck 0]

I think he knows what he is talking about.

[DDiabolical 0]

I'm guessing he rates his son a 7 because he probably rates himself an 8-9 and seeing as he's taught his son to play believes he's taught his son up to the level of Chan or Ivey.Delusional, obviously.

[doublemeup 0]

Who the hell is "Barrygreenstein"?

[ksean9999 0]

I think he knows what he is talking about.

that's not what i'm saying...obviously.i'm not saying he doesn't know, i'm saying he's not objective.do you honestly believe it's possible for joe sebok to be up to the level of chan or ivey in any aspect of nlhe?if you do then fine. that's you're right.that's like arnold palmer teaching his son to play golf for two years and then saying he's as good as tiger woods and you believing him because he's arnold palmer and he "knows what he is talking about."and for the record, many would argue that greenstein HIMSELF would be lucky to be considered as good as ivey or chan. i personally believe he is but more than a few would make an argument to the contrary.

[No_Neck 0]

I think he knows what he is talking about.

that's not what i'm saying...obviously.i'm not saying he doesn't know, i'm saying he's not objective.do you honestly believe it's possible for joe sebok to be up to the level of chan or ivey in any aspect of nlhe?if you do then fine. that's you're right.that's like arnold palmer teaching his son to play golf for two years and then saying he's as good as tiger woods and you believing him because he's arnold palmer and he "knows what he is talking about."and for the record, many would argue that greenstein HIMSELF would be lucky to be considered as good as ivey or chan. i personally believe he is but more than a few would make an argument to the contrary.

easy bro, no need to get all crazy. Chan is rated as an 8 in NLHE, but for tourneys he is rated a 7. He says that PLO is Chans best game.... he might be right.

[ksean9999 0]

I think he knows what he is talking about.

that's not what i'm saying...obviously.i'm not saying he doesn't know, i'm saying he's not objective.do you honestly believe it's possible for joe sebok to be up to the level of chan or ivey in any aspect of nlhe?if you do then fine. that's you're right.that's like arnold palmer teaching his son to play golf for two years and then saying he's as good as tiger woods and you believing him because he's arnold palmer and he "knows what he is talking about."and for the record, many would argue that greenstein HIMSELF would be lucky to be considered as good as ivey or chan. i personally believe he is but more than a few would make an argument to the contrary.

easy bro, no need to get all crazy. Chan is rated as an 8 in NLHE, but for tourneys he is rated a 7. He says that PLO is Chans best game.... he might be right.

lol. yeah maybe i do sound a little hostile and bitter. i'm not obviously but i just thought it was a little absurd coming from someone like that.

[ksean9999 0]

I think he knows what he is talking about.

that's not what i'm saying...obviously.i'm not saying he doesn't know, i'm saying he's not objective.do you honestly believe it's possible for joe sebok to be up to the level of chan or ivey in any aspect of nlhe?if you do then fine. that's you're right.that's like arnold palmer teaching his son to play golf for two years and then saying he's as good as tiger woods and you believing him because he's arnold palmer and he "knows what he is talking about."and for the record, many would argue that greenstein HIMSELF would be lucky to be considered as good as ivey or chan. i personally believe he is but more than a few would make an argument to the contrary.

easy bro, no need to get all crazy. Chan is rated as an 8 in NLHE, but for tourneys he is rated a 7. He says that PLO is Chans best game.... he might be right.

lol. yeah maybe i do sound a little hostile and bitter. i'm not obviously but i just thought it was a little absurd coming from someone like barry g.

[Abbaddabba 0]

Poker isnt like golf.You can teach someone to swing correctly, but if their body doesnt nail the mechanics perfectly, you're not hitting it where you want it to go.Poker isn't a sport.Most of what poker involves can be learnt, supposing the student isnt mentally retarded.

[ksean9999 0]

Poker isnt like golf.You can teach someone to swing correctly, but if their body doesnt nail the mechanics perfectly, you're not hitting it where you want it to go.Poker isn't a sport.Most of what poker involves can be learnt, supposing the student isnt mentally retarded.

i agree but wouldnt you say that someone with 2 years experience cannot hardly be compared to someone with a lifetime of experience who has grinded their way to the top and won many titles and millions of dollars.

[ksean9999 0]

Poker isnt like golf.You can teach someone to swing correctly, but if their body doesnt nail the mechanics perfectly, you're not hitting it where you want it to go.Poker isn't a sport.Most of what poker involves can be learnt, supposing the student isnt mentally retarded.

and my point was not really to compare poker and golf... it was illustrating how silly it is to think that just because someone knows what they are talking about, doesn't mean they're speaking the truth - especially when it makes little sense.

[HoosierAlum 0]

Poker isnt like golf.You can teach someone to swing correctly, but if their body doesnt nail the mechanics perfectly, you're not hitting it where you want it to go.Poker isn't a sport.Most of what poker involves can be learnt, supposing the student isnt mentally retarded.

i agree but wouldnt you say that someone with 2 years experience cannot hardly be compared to someone with a lifetime of experience who has grinded their way to the top and won many titles and millions of dollars.

In todays age of internet poker, someone could become world-class in 2 years if they were learning from one of the top pros. This is assuming they worked very hard and were taught properly.

[No_Neck 0]

poker can be taught much easier than golf, how else can a pro bring up all of his friends, Barry G and Mimi Tran for one. Not taking anything away from MiMi, I am sure she worked very hard but without Barry's guidance she might just be another poster here trying to learn.

[Abbaddabba 0]

If you're taught what to do in a particular situation, you're going to be able to execute it without much trouble when faced with it, or similar situations.Becoming a top tier player on your own is difficult, because you have to accumulate all the knowledge first hand. When you have someone telling you what is correct, you dont need to go through the trial and error process.

[Demonde 0]

[Simpleton 0]

Who cares? Barry looks like a wookie.

[thebolb33 0]

To the OP - Whats a half son?

[nickforgot 0]

according the my home game dealers johnny chan went broke

[Dratj 0]

Poker isnt like golf.You can teach someone to swing correctly, but if their body doesnt nail the mechanics perfectly, you're not hitting it where you want it to go.Poker isn't a sport.Most of what poker involves can be learnt, supposing the student isnt mentally retarded.

lol :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Ganador 0]

I can't stop laughing at the "whats a half son comment" cause i was thinking the exact same thing.

[custom36 5]

To the OP - Whats a half son?

he's part girl,she's part boy.She's got parts everyone can enjoy.She's got more,she's got less.She's got her manhood tucked in her dress.Is she a mister,or is she a miss?Does she stand up when she's taking a piss?She's my little girl,yea, she's my little guy.When I try to please I get poked in the eye.She wears lace and she wears flannel.She watches football and the Lifetime Channel.What's that bulge under her nightie?It must be hermaphrodite.Somethings are white,somethings are black.Some girls wear make-up,mine shaves her back.She is still beautiful,she is still fine.It's too bad her package is bigger than mine.She can't help her imperfections,she gets jock itch from her yeast infections.Who stole all my tightie whities?It must be hermaphrodite.Yea, hermaphrodite.

[Eric Smith 0]

i agree but wouldnt you say that someone with 2 years experience cannot hardly be compared to someone with a lifetime of experience who has grinded their way to the top and won many titles and millions of dollars.

ehh i think you're getting all bent out of shape for no reason. Barry isn't saying Joe is better or worse than Johnny Chan. I don't think Barry made the profiles to show who he thinks the best player is. They show a relationship of how a given player performs in different aspects of poker. He could make a profile for any no name and give him a "7" in NL. All it would show is that the player shows great understanding of NL games.

[ksean9999 0]

To the OP - Whats a half son?

that's a good question. i guess i meant step-son or maybe "son that didn't live with him."i guess i just made it up.