KingAustin 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Sat down a few hands ago and table seems passive. I bet the flop to get some info, the raiser has 100 vpip for 7 hands so figured he might be a little loose.Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG with [6c], [Ac]. Hero calls, 6 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.Flop: (8 SB) [Qc], [7s], [6h] (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.Turn: (6 BB) [4c] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.River: (8 BB) [6d] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 11.91 BB Link to post Share on other sites
hotbacon 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I wouldn't bet the flop. I'd rather let button bet and see if anyone checkraises or anything. If it folds to me, I'd call and my action on turn would depend on card.As you played it, everything else looks fine. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I bet the flop to get some infoI would rather c/c the flop, and decide what to do on the turn. But since you decided to bet the flop for info, you should use the info he gives you and fold the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 I bet the flop to get some infoI would rather c/c the flop, and decide what to do on the turn. But since you decided to bet the flop for info, you should use the info he gives you and fold the turn.Why would I fold the turn, arent I getting sufficient odds? Link to post Share on other sites
mkeller3086 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I bet the flop to get some infoI would rather c/c the flop, and decide what to do on the turn. But since you decided to bet the flop for info, you should use the info he gives you and fold the turn.screech, i bet you missed that he picked up a fd on the turn to go with his pair Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 somebody is a bit rusty!damn, I miss Screech.how long has he been gone... 6 Months? Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 I bet the flop to get some infoI would rather c/c the flop, and decide what to do on the turn. But since you decided to bet the flop for info, you should use the info he gives you and fold the turn.screech, i bet you missed that he picked up a fd on the turn to go with his pairlol, yeah.good bet. pm me your account info and i'll transfer you the money. Link to post Share on other sites
aim786 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Nobody check raises the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Nobody check raises the turn?why? Link to post Share on other sites
elaear 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 fold preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 fold preflop.Yeah, good point. Definitely not a limping hand UTG. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 fold preflop.Yeah, good point. Definitely not a limping hand UTG.of all my SLAP-iness, Axs in EP appear to be my leak-iest hands. Not by much, and likely to early to know the full story.At .5/1 its a limp.2/4 they raise too often behind you and you a 3 waay with it Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 fold preflop.Yeah, good point. Definitely not a limping hand UTG.of all my SLAP-iness, Axs in EP appear to be my leak-iest hands. Not by much, and likely to early to know the full story.At .5/1 its a limp.2/4 they raise too often behind you and you a 3 waay with it Lol... I figured you may reply to this...I agree, .5/1 is a lot closer... i didn't even look at what level this was. I think I would get killed at .5/1 now, I don't play nearly SLAPpy or SLAA enough to crush it like I used to... Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 fold preflop.Yeah, good point. Definitely not a limping hand UTG.I already had stats on some people at the table and it seemed passive and slightly loose for the few hands I sat down, so I decided to limp. I don't really see anything wrong with Axs in early position at a loose/passive table. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I already had stats on some people at the table and it seemed passive and slightly loose for the few hands I sat down, so I decided to limp. I don't really see anything wrong with Axs in early position at a loose/passive table.you have my kudos, with those reads. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I already had stats on some people at the table and it seemed passive and slightly loose for the few hands I sat down, so I decided to limp. I don't really see anything wrong with Axs in early position at a loose/passive table.you have my kudos, with those reads.As long as you can consistently expect at the very least 4 others in the hand, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 I already had stats on some people at the table and it seemed passive and slightly loose for the few hands I sat down, so I decided to limp. I don't really see anything wrong with Axs in early position at a loose/passive table.you have my kudos, with those reads.As long as you can consistently expect at the very least 4 others in the hand, I think.since when do you need atleast 4 others in the pot to make Axs profitable? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I open in MP/LP to play HU against random hands in pos.I limp in loose passive games in EP because I want multi-way and more players means better inplied odds for the nut flush.Obviously, we do have some TP strenghth, however, if it's often raised preflop, our equity is not so good against raising hands and hands calling raises. I would like many cold callers in this case. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I already had stats on some people at the table and it seemed passive and slightly loose for the few hands I sat down, so I decided to limp. I don't really see anything wrong with Axs in early position at a loose/passive table.you have my kudos, with those reads.As long as you can consistently expect at the very least 4 others in the hand, I think.since when do you need atleast 4 others in the pot to make Axs profitable?Isn't Axs supposed to be treated like a speculative hand, as in small PP's and suited connectors? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Isn't Axs supposed to be treated like a speculative hand, as in small PP's and suited connectors?Axs is harder to play (read: less profitable) than 78s or 55 for most people Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Author Share Posted February 9, 2006 I already had stats on some people at the table and it seemed passive and slightly loose for the few hands I sat down, so I decided to limp. I don't really see anything wrong with Axs in early position at a loose/passive table.you have my kudos, with those reads.As long as you can consistently expect at the very least 4 others in the hand, I think.since when do you need atleast 4 others in the pot to make Axs profitable?Isn't Axs supposed to be treated like a speculative hand, as in small PP's and suited connectors?Sure, but also depends on postflop play. Mine surely isnt the strongest, but I think good enough that I can play it and turn a profit in this case. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Isn't Axs supposed to be treated like a speculative hand, as in small PP's and suited connectors?Axs is harder to play (read: less profitable) than 78s or 55 for most peopleuh... let me c.m.a. here... at least it sounds right..no evidence Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Ok, so I looked throught the DB, and I'm an enourmous loser with suited connectors T9s and down... suprising...Pocket pairs I'm a winner with, except 22, 55, and 77 for some reason, but 88 is huge for me.And AXs, I'm pretty even.. up with one hand, down with the other. So I don't know anymore... lolI really don't mind the play preflop though, fwiw, I just wanted to see some discussion on it. Link to post Share on other sites
kouta43 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 preflop is questionable, from there on its fine.On a side note, why does 90% of the posters here think that passive bs poker is the way to go? c/c the flop? wtf. where does that leaves you when a non ace or 6 turn card comes, which will happen 90% of the time.People, show some goddam aggression. KingAustin played the flop correctly. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 On a side note, why does 90% of the posters here think that passive bs poker is the way to go? c/c the flop? wtf. where does that leaves you when a non ace or 6 turn card comes, which will happen 90% of the time.People, show some goddam aggression. KingAustin played the flop correctly.so, do you think he should fold the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
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