Breaking Liberty 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is MP with [Kh], [Ks]. 1 fold.Flop: (7 SB) [Kc], [9h], [2c] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [7c] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.River: (8 BB) [Jc] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds.Final Pot: 10 BB Link to post Share on other sites
Breaking Liberty 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 Big pot on the river, but calling a raise here seems dumb. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Check, call one, but not overcall (unless he's a complete station).You're usually behind on the river against two random sets of hands, and you almost never get better hands to fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Is there ever a chance we can get like a 7 to fold here? Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Is there ever a chance we can get like a 7 to fold here?If you grab it off the board and throw it in the muck. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Check, call one, but not overcall (unless he's a complete station).why are you checking? we have a set. only 2 other people in the hand, neither have shown any aggression, and one just checked the river to us. they'll call with less than a set. If we just had the overpair, I could make a case for checking. Easy bet/fold IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Check, call one, but not overcall (unless he's a complete station).why are you checking? we have a set. only 2 other people in the hand, neither have shown any aggression, and one just checked the river to us. they'll call with less than a set. If we just had the overpair, I could make a case for checking. Easy bet/fold IMO.my argument to c/c...weak flushes may check behind.they almost never fold.I also don't want to be bluffed out.hate to admit, but I might just overcall, too.edit to add: We are usually behind, as Abba pointed out Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Check, call one, but not overcall (unless he's a complete station).why are you checking? we have a set. only 2 other people in the hand, neither have shown any aggression, and one just checked the river to us. they'll call with less than a set. If we just had the overpair, I could make a case for checking. Easy bet/fold IMO.Rise give me a range of hands that is calling our river bet that have shown no aggression thus far that we have beat.Check/call. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 A9, JT for the gutshot and now a pair, J9, Kx, QQ, JJ, TT, 88, 77, 66, 55, it depends on the players, and we have no reads.Tell me why one of them HAS to have a club. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Tell me why one of them HAS to have a heart.its about 60% +, and likely higher since flush is materializingyou think we have a thin vlaue bet here, or you want to fold better hands?are you folding to a raise? Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Tell me why one of them HAS to have a club.its about 60% +, and likely higher since flush is materializingyou think we have a thin vlaue bet here, or you want to fold better hands?are you folding to a raise?I wanted some kinda numbers to tell me that one of them usually has a club, not just people saying "aw man you're beat" because there's 4 clubs on the board. I think we have a thin value bet. I don't think we fold better hands much (but if we did that'd be sweet) but I do think some worse hands call us. Yes, my line was bet/fold river. Link to post Share on other sites
GamblinLeaf 0 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 I don't think there's one standard "best" line here. Reads would be helpful.If I think there's ANY chance a small club folds to a bet, I bet, as that's likely the only way I can win the pot.If I think there's NO chance of CO folding, and ANY chance he'd bet a non-club hand, I check/call. I just don't see enough non-club hands calling to make me think this is a value bet here.If I think there's NO chance of CO folding, and NO chance he'd bet a non-club hand, I'm check/folding.Hard to make a blanket decision without reads. Link to post Share on other sites
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