Oziumrules 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Act like men and admit you guys didnt get it done and the Seahawks had plenty of chances.20 reasons the refs' calls didn't matter...1. The Refs didn't give up the longest run in SB history...Seattle's defense did.2. The Refs didn't bite on a 43 yd trick play, Randle to Ward for a TD...Seattle's defense did.3. The Refs didn't allow Ben to scramble around on a 3rd and 28 and complete a long pass to the 2 yd. line...Seattle's defense did.4. The Refs didn't miss two field goals, that was Seattle.5. The Refs didn't fail to step out of bounds late in the 1st half to stop the clock in Pitt territory in a crunch time situation...Seattle's offense did.6. The Refs didn't let the 1st half clock tick down from 48 seconds all the way down to 13 seconds before finally running their next play at Pitt's 36 yd line...Seattle's offense did.7. And on this play, 3rd down, 53 yds away from a FG, it wasn't the Refs who tried and failed to go deep for a TD rather than a safer 5-7 yd play and timeout setting up a much easier FG attempt....that, again, would be Seattle's offense.8. The Refs didn't get confused by Pitt's zone defense and throw an INT...that would be Seattle's QB.9. The Refs didn't let a little physical contact intimidate them from catching 4 very catchable passes...that would be the Seattle TE Jeremy Stevens.10. With approx. 20 seconds left in the game, knowing they need a TD and FG, in no particular order, and in easy FG range on 4th down, it wasn't the Refs who ignored the FG and elected to throw up a prayer trying for a TD...that AGAIN would be Seattle.11. The Refs didn't constantly punt deep into the end zone, repeatedly giving Pitt the ball at the 20 yd line...that of course was Seattle.12. It wasn't the Refs who received a Christmas gift wrapped easy INT lobbed in perfect position to return deep into Pitt territory...the lucky beneficiary of that break would be Seattle.13. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when a Steeler DB dropped an easy int early in the game...that too would be a break for Seattle.14. It wasn't the Refs who caught a break when a Steeler WR dropped a very catchable TD pass...that break again would go to Seattle.15. It wasn't the scapegoat Refs that received a break when a WR caught the ball, turned, stepped, was hit hard enough to cause a fumble, and then ruled INCOMPLETE...that would be of course, another chance for Seattle.(this was an interesting call considering that after Troy's famous overruled Int, the NFL stated that it WAS a catch. If so, than this definitely WAS a catch)16. The Refs werent the ones who caught a break when at the conclusion of a 2nd qtr play, as a Pitt DE was walking away, the Seattle Center blindsided the defenseless player, leveling him to the ground. This mysteriously unseen crime was again another break for Seattle.17. It wasn't the Refs who got a break when Pitt QB Big Ben was blocked in the back as he pursued the DB who he'd tossed an int to...that again would go to Seattle.18. It wasn't the Refs who stopped Seattle RB Alexander in a few key situations. That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.19. It wasn't the Refs who converted many of their 3rd downs yet stopped their opponent on 3rd down often...that would be the Pittsburgh Steelers.20. And the very bottom line is this...On plays when there wasn't any penalties...One team made plays and one team didn't. The end result was the final score, 21-10 Seattle was outcoached and outplayed.Get over it Seattle. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs. Link to post Share on other sites
Longshanks 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 steelers fans are just so happy at winning the worst super bowl everand being the worst team to ever win one Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs.Holmgren thinks so.... Link to post Share on other sites
Vatche 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 im not a fan of either team, but i must say, the steelers got a lot of breaks by the refs...there were 2 calls the refs messed up on that couldve chanded the whole game... Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs.Holmgren thinks so....A. He was joking. He followed that comment by "but seriously" and then went on to talk about other sh*t. He was playing to the crowd..I am sure he was 50% serious and 50% joking. B. I said "very few" people thought that the refs completely cost Seattle the game. Every knowledgable person knows that Seattle missed some opportuinities JUST like every knowledgeable person knows that the refs took a lot of their big plays away with phantom calls. Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs.Holmgren thinks so....Homgren was speaking to a large group of Seattle fans who came out to congratulate the Seahawks on their season. Of course he's going to say something like that because that's what they want to hear. Link to post Share on other sites
Don Giovanni 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs.it was not a gigantic factor, not even close. the only gigantic factors in the game were the steelers big plays that seatle couldnt stop. and im not a fan of either team and i didnt care who won. Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/n...tory?id=2321636 Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs.it was not a gigantic factor, not even close. the only gigantic factors in the game were the steelers big plays that seatle couldnt stop. and im not a fan of either team and i didnt care who won.You can't be serious. Phantom flags could have been as much as a 17 point factor. It was a HUGE factor in the game. If you think otherwise, then you are flat out in denial. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Bob Loblaw Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/n...tory?id=2321636Is this a rebuttal to something or are you just putting it out there so others can read the story? Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/n...tory?id=2321636Uh...yeah...what is the point of this??? Like...three fans are quoted as saying that they didn't like the refs officiating in the game. So!??! Link to post Share on other sites
Oziumrules 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/n...tory?id=2321636Is this a rebuttal to something or are you just putting it out there so others can read the story?rebutttal to Koop saying only a few Seattle fans think the refs are to blame. Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This has become like the Bettis homecoming story. It started off as a big story until it was told over and over and over again until everybody was sick of hearing about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Don Giovanni 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Every Steelers fan knows that the refs played a very large role in the game. No. It didn't single-handedly cost Seattle the game, but it definitely was a gigantic factor. This is an undeniable fact and that is all most people are saying. VERY few people are saying that Seattle lost just because of the refs.it was not a gigantic factor, not even close. the only gigantic factors in the game were the steelers big plays that seatle couldnt stop. and im not a fan of either team and i didnt care who won.You can't be serious. Phantom flags could have been as much as a 17 point factor. It was a HUGE factor in the game. If you think otherwise, then you are flat out in denial.so you are saying that seattle lost just becuase of the refs, or at least mostly? Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 so you are saying that seattle lost just becuase of the refs, or at least mostly?The refs totally changed the complexion of the game; we'll never know how things would've turned out. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 :boohoo: :cry: :cry: :boohoo: Link to post Share on other sites
Don Giovanni 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 so you are saying that seattle lost just becuase of the refs, or at least mostly?The refs totally changed the complexion of the game; we'll never know how things would've turned out.theres only 2 calls that you can really dispute. if one of them went the other way the steelers still probly would have scored on 4th and inches. if not the seahawks would have to start on their own 1 yard line. and the holding call, what are you gonna do? it was a bad call but those kinds of calls happen in almost every game. say what if all you want but the steelers played better and they won. Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 :boohoo: :cry: :cry: :boohoo:I'm not a Seattle fan, just commenting on what I saw. And your avatar is awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 :boohoo: :cry: :cry: :boohoo:I'm not a Seattle fan, just commenting on what I saw. And your avatar is awesome.lol thanksand that wasn't directed to you.. you just happened to be the person to post before me. Link to post Share on other sites
Hobbes 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 so you are saying that seattle lost just becuase of the refs, or at least mostly?The refs totally changed the complexion of the game; we'll never know how things would've turned out.theres only 2 calls that you can really dispute. if one of them went the other way the steelers still probly would have scored on 4th and inches. if not the seahawks would have to start on their own 1 yard line. and the holding call, what are you gonna do? it was a bad call but those kinds of calls happen in almost every game. say what if all you want but the steelers played better and they won.There was another one where I'm not sure about. On Darrell Jackson's 2nd "almost" touchdown, he caught the ball with one foot in bounds and the 2nd foot clearly landed out of bounds. However, that 2nd foot barely touched the pylon. What is the rule on that? I haven't heard many people talking about it, but I did hear one sports show say that if the foot hits the pylon it is considered in bounds. If that's true, then that's another TD taken away from Seattle. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I reiterate: Bob Loblaw Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 so you are saying that seattle lost just becuase of the refs, or at least mostly?The refs totally changed the complexion of the game; we'll never know how things would've turned out.theres only 2 calls that you can really dispute. if one of them went the other way the steelers still probly would have scored on 4th and inches. if not the seahawks would have to start on their own 1 yard line. and the holding call, what are you gonna do? it was a bad call but those kinds of calls happen in almost every game. say what if all you want but the steelers played better and they won.A. There were WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than two real close calls. There were a TON of OBVIOUS uncalled penalties on Pitt..such as a horse-collar tackle on Alexander when he was breaking free. Would have resulted in a 1st down deep in Pitt territory, but instead resulted in a missed FG i think?? There were WAY more than just two disputed calls. B. Yeah..bad calls happen in every game, but not THAT many bad calls, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM went against Seattle. C. I never said that Seattle lost the game "all" or "mostly" because of the refs. The refs CLEARLY helped out Pitt with a TON of atrocius phantom calls on Seattle and non-calls against Pitt. That changed the entire game, and there is no telling what would have happened otherwise. D. Seattle, quite frankly, outplayed Pittsburgh for much of the game, and they DID make a lot of big plays, but just about every single one of them was taken away by a phantom call. You can't honestly tell me that Pitt played a very good game. One big run for Parker, one big pass play for Ben, and one good trick play. That is all. They didn't shut down anyone on defense, the flags did, and their offense didn't look that great for the most part. Seattle made their mistakes too, neither team played "good" overall, but the refs CLEARLY gave Pitt a big edge, and that was a factor. That is undeniable. EVERYONE knows it except those in denial or those that didn't watch the game. Link to post Share on other sites
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