DiverDown4 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I was watching deal or no deal and couldn't help but think that a poker player would do well in that game. I mean it's really similar to poker. It's like calculating pot odds. What a great game. Can't wait until the March episodes come out. Link to post Share on other sites
powerpoker 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 what is deal and no deal...please explain Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Howie Mandel looks really creepy as a bald man. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 what is deal and no deal...please explainGoogle Link to post Share on other sites
sirch1 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is why this poker forum sucks Link to post Share on other sites
yergan 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I was watching deal or no deal and couldn't help but think that a poker player would do well in that game. Â I mean it's really similar to poker. Â It's like calculating pot odds. Â What a great game. Â Can't wait until the March episodes come out.I've thought about this before and I dont know if you could apply the same concepts. Poker is all about long term expected value, where as you will only be on the show once and even though a decision would be +EV, it may not be the correct move.I think it would be interesting if we could get some discussion going on optimal strategies for this. Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I was watching deal or no deal and couldn't help but think that a poker player would do well in that game. Â I mean it's really similar to poker. Â It's like calculating pot odds. Â What a great game. Â Can't wait until the March episodes come out.I've thought about this before and I dont know if you could apply the same concepts. Poker is all about long term expected value, where as you will only be on the show once and even though a decision would be +EV, it may not be the correct move.I think it would be interesting if we could get some discussion going on optimal strategies for this.Making the move that's most +EV is the optimal strategy regardless if you are right or not when you choose to make a deal or not. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Does anybody else get mad when people make -EV decisions on game shows most notably, "The Price is Right"? I'm such a math geek. Link to post Share on other sites
Dice_3008 1 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Or on the Wheel of Fortune when they pay the $250 to buy a vowel and the word "the". Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Or on the Wheel of Fortune when they pay the $250 to buy a vowel and the word "the".No no...When they buy a vowel, which is obvious, and then solve the puzzle.IDIOTS!! Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Also, someone go answer this for me...http://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-forums/v...pic.php?t=49098 Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Does anybody else get mad when people make -EV decisions on game shows most notably, "The Price is Right"? Â I'm such a math geek.Acting last on bidding and then betting 1 over the highest bid = +EV Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Does anybody else get mad when people make -EV decisions on game shows most notably, "The Price is Right"? Â I'm such a math geek.Acting last on bidding and then betting 1 over the highest bid = +EVBetting anything other than 1 over someone else or $1 when you're last to act = -EV Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Does anybody else get mad when people make -EV decisions on game shows most notably, "The Price is Right"? Â I'm such a math geek.Acting last on bidding and then betting 1 over the highest bid = +EVBetting anything other than 1 over someone else or $1 when you're last to act = -EV There are numerous times when it is +EV to bet $1 when you're last to act. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Does anybody else get mad when people make -EV decisions on game shows most notably, "The Price is Right"? Â I'm such a math geek.Acting last on bidding and then betting 1 over the highest bid = +EVBetting anything other than 1 over someone else or $1 when you're last to act = -EV There are numerous times when it is +EV to bet $1 when you're last to act.I know, that's what I said, maybe I didnt convey what I was thinking clearly enough. I meant that the only plays are $1 or $1 more than someone else when you're last to act. Link to post Share on other sites
DaBruins 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 the most annoying thing about wheel of fortune is when the player knows what the puzzle is, then spins the wheel and hits a $2,500 spot, and then say L when there is only 1 L instead of saying F when there are 3 F's. And then they solve the puzzle. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 You know what I hate more than people who make mistakes on Wheel of Fortune?People who watch Wheel of Fortune. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 pot odds aren't simple in deal or no deal. the offer is always below the expected value from the remianing dollar amounts, because you have to consider future actions as well. if theres 2 or 3 left, then sure its easy. but if theres 15 left and you're choosing 4 more and you don't know what you'll hit and what the new offer will be, i can't imagine how you'd calculate EV. Link to post Share on other sites
suicideking 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Luck does play more of a role than skill here, but it is situational. You just have to make the right decision for the spot you are in, thus +EV. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is why this poker forum sucksExhibit A ^^^ Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is why this poker forum sucksExhibit B Link to post Share on other sites
Bill_Brasky 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 This is why this poker forum sucksExhibit BExhibit C: Your face!Right in the kisser! Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 A few things on this game1. You cant look at this as a poker game. You can calculate EV but for the most part it wont matter2. Think about this situation...You have a guaranteed 500,000 but u can risk that for 1 million on a 50/50 situation....but if u miss you only get 64000...Well an EV calculation says you should always go for the million. but the good majority of us would never do it. Why? b/c the value of the first 500k in our minds is much higher than the value of teh 2nd 500k. We could say that the 2nd 500k is icing on the cake if you will. A much better situation is to look at a game like "lets make a deal" in which you pick 1 of 3 cards...1 card has a car, 2 cards have nothing...the Host will show you 1 card that doesnt have anything behind it and then you get the option of switchin cards or not...The question would then be should you ever switch cards Link to post Share on other sites
tyfgine 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 A much better situation is to look at a game like "lets make a deal" in which you pick 1 of 3 cards...1 card has a car, 2 cards have nothing...the Host will show you 1 card that doesnt have anything behind it and then you get the option of switchin cards or not...The question would then be should you ever switch cardsyou should always switch cards. Link to post Share on other sites
sanemancrazywrld 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I watched the show once. I'm pretty sure they offer less than your EV at every turn. You'd maximize your EV by gambling it up all the way. But you'd have to either be rich, nuts, or a dedicated EV maximizer to do that. Well, pure EV maximizers are also nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
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