question about variance and expenses

[Tantalar 0]

A friend of mine wants to go to the casino again, and I'm not sure if I want to go again just yey anyway. I have a question that id like to get an opinion on.Lets say that it costs $150 to go to the casino. This includes room, gas, and food expenses. Now lets say that youre going to play 2/4 and 3/6 NL and Limit games. Is it reasonable to asume that this is a money pit, in which variance, expenses, and dealer tips will make it hard enough just to break even?Is it possible to make a consistent net winning profit at those limits, if you include the expenses that I mentioned? Or does the player in question just nearly break even? This is of course asuming that the player is a net winning, sucessful player.What do you guys think? With those expenses, is it a smart idea to go to the casino and play those stakes, and expect to walk out over a long period of time with profit? Or will the $150 + Other random expenses keep you pinned down to the point where just breaking even will be a constant up hill struggle?

[SCS 0]

I'm sure it can be done.

[chrozzo 19]

$150 bankroll for 2/4 or 3/6 NL is quite low, I'd imagine.

[Dynon07 0]

Now you put it that way seems like it would add up to be a great deal of money if you are playing frequently. Ten trips would cost you 1500 bucks which is a pretty good sum to win playing those stakes.If you don't miss the atmosphere and experience and are concerned strictly about monetary gain, it might be in your best interest to play online to save money. However all my trips to the casino have been very enjoyable and some players play better in live environments. I would take a lot of time to think about the differences and make the best choice based on your intentions.

[TheCinciKid 0]

If you're playing NL that high and you're good, you can certainly win at those levels even with $150 in expenses per trip. Playing limit you're much more likely to break even overall in the longer run. Remember that 3/6 NL is actually pretty high and a good player could make pretty significant money playing it. 3/6 limit on the other hand, I'd say even the best player probably would be hard-pressed to make any more than $9 an hour at (and that may even be stretching it) over the very long term. Hence, your expenses would cut much more significantly into your winnings.

[Jadaki 0]

If you're playing NL that high and you're good, you can certainly win at those levels even with $150 in expenses per trip.  Playing limit you're much more likely to break even overall in the longer run.  Remember that 3/6 NL is actually pretty high and a good player could make pretty significant money playing it.  3/6 limit on the other hand, I'd say even the best player probably would be hard-pressed to make any more than $9 an hour at (and that may even be stretching it) over the very long term.  Hence, your expenses would cut much more significantly into your winnings.

If your not beating a live 3/6 limit game for more than 1.5 BB an hour you are doing something wrong. Those games are softer than most micro limit online games.

[primetime 0]

A friend of mine wants to go to the casino again, and I'm not sure if I want to go again just yey anyway. I have a question that id like to get an opinion on.Lets say that it costs $150 to go to the casino. This includes room, gas, and food expenses. Now lets say that youre going to play 2/4 and 3/6 NL and Limit games.  Is it reasonable to asume that this is a money pit, in which variance, expenses, and dealer tips will make it hard enough just to break even?Is it possible to make a consistent net winning profit at those limits, if you include the expenses that I mentioned? Or does the player in question just nearly break even? This is of course asuming that the player is a net winning, sucessful player.What do you guys think? With those expenses, is it a smart idea to go to the casino and play those stakes, and expect to walk out over a long period of time with profit? Or will the $150 + Other random expenses keep you pinned down to the point where just breaking even will be a constant up hill struggle?

how far is the casino....a day trip? overnighter? weekender?gas=20 bucks?food=10 bucks?room=50 bucks?thats 80 dollars....without the room and just gas and food might be 30...leaves you with 120....usually buy in for the 1-2 and 2-4 nl games are 50 to 200, so you are ok with that....there are no 3/6 nl games usally....with 120..you could get into the 1/2 or 2/4 games and still be marginally ok...but one bad beat or a kicker problem would have you limping....but if you double up..you will be fine

[Tantalar 0]

I think everyone misread what I asked. Im talking strictly about the amount that it csots to get there and stay there for 2 nights. If we assume that player X brings $600 and plays 1-2 and 2-4 and maybe veen some 3-6. the expenses have nothing to do with the ammount of money in his BR, its not subtracted. He doesnt have only $150 to spend on the whole entire trip.He has 150 for room, food, and gas. He has $600 for poker.Is it smart to go to the casino and play at those stakes, with that automatic $150 inexpenses every single time?

[HomeRow 0]

If you're playing NL that high and you're good, you can certainly win at those levels even with $150 in expenses per trip. Playing limit you're much more likely to break even overall in the longer run. Remember that 3/6 NL is actually pretty high and a good player could make pretty significant money playing it. 3/6 limit on the other hand, I'd say even the best player probably would be hard-pressed to make any more than $9 an hour at (and that may even be stretching it) over the very long term. Hence, your expenses would cut much more significantly into your winnings.

If your not beating a live 3/6 limit game for more than 1.5 BB an hour you are doing something wrong. Those games are softer than most micro limit online games.

Yeah, and you get about 45% as many hands per hours. 1.5bb/hr live is like 3.5-4bb/100. And that's a fabulous winrate.