AlphaOmega 0 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 2/4 9-max (9-handed)Reads:MP is 19.16 / 6.07 / 1.82 after 214 hands.Pre-Flop: Hero is dealt K K on the button2 folds, MP calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP callsFlop:6 Q J MP checks, Hero bets, Hero callsTurn:4 MP bets, Hero callsRiver:6 MP bets Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 So you put him exactly on Q-J then? Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 So you put him exactly on Q-J then?That or quad sixes. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 With those stats you can easily put him on QJs, or 66. He would almost always be raising JJ or QQ, even UTG.I usually wuss out and just call the river because I would never think of stuff like this during the hand, but I like the raise. I'd say that the odds are that you have now counterfeited his two pair.He could also have an overplayed KQ or AQ, but I doubt it, as he should be raising those PF too. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I'm putting him on QJ all the way. Raise it up. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Wow, VNH. Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 NH Link to post Share on other sites
Sysvr4 0 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I like it.How do you react to a 3-bet?Jeff Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 I like it.How do you react to a 3-bet?JeffI think I should fold, but I hate folding. Link to post Share on other sites
BoBetter 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I love the river raise.Well done sir. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I like it.How do you react to a 3-bet?JeffI think I should fold, but I hate folding.The pot's WAY too big to fold there. If I'm counting right you would be getting 13.5:1 on the call of the 3-bet. The vast majority of the time you get shown a hand that beats you but I don't think it's high enough to counteract these huge odds.Zara Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Author Share Posted February 6, 2006 I like it.How do you react to a 3-bet?JeffI think I should fold, but I hate folding.The pot's WAY too big to fold there. If I'm counting right you would be getting 13.5:1 on the call of the 3-bet. The vast majority of the time you get shown a hand that beats you but I don't think it's high enough to counteract these huge odds.ZaraWhat hands do you see a TAP three-bet here that we beat? Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 What do you see a TAP 3bet here, period?Jacks, queens and aces all raise preflop on account of the TA part. JQ calls the raise on account of the P part.66 is the only one that fits the data perfectly. But there is only one hand combination in the deck that makes up 66. It's more often going to be someone who doesnt realize that their top two pair has just been counterfeited. Link to post Share on other sites
westhead12 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 A lot of bad players would 3-bet qj here. I think you can assume that 1 in 13.5 players would. Link to post Share on other sites
bascomeb 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 A lot of bad players would 3-bet qj here. I think you can assume that 1 in 13.5 players would.yeah if he 3 bets I think you have to call. NH though Link to post Share on other sites
kouta43 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 so did he have JQ? Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaOmega 0 Posted February 8, 2006 Author Share Posted February 8, 2006 so did he have JQ?Pocket aces.I think donk factors are more reliable than actual reads. Maybe that'll be in a future patch. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zach6668 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 so did he have JQ?Pocket aces.I think donk factors are more reliable than actual reads. Maybe that'll be in a future patch.Ahhhh... the old slowplayed preflop wait for the dangerous flop to raise AA... makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites
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