akishore 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 this is not meant to be a bad-beat post or a complaining post in any way, but i just wanted to share a recent hand i played online (low limit).i was dealt A Q UTG, raised and got three callers including both blinds.flop came A 9 2 , both blinds check, i bet out and got the same three callers.turn came Q , again two checks, again i bet out, two folded while the big blind called.river came 4 , the BB checked, and i checked right behind him.he turned over K 4 and took down the pot with a flush.that's not such a big deal in itself, but what was funny is that one of the callers then typed "vn" (very nice), and the big blind prompty replied "ty" (thank you). i, of course, didn't say anything; i never do, but i just thought that was funny and wanted to ask the following questions:1. very nice that he stayed for runner-runner flush?2. or very nice that he lost a bet when he tried to slowplay it on the river with a four-flush and three-straight (wheel) board?3. or very nice for literally getting lucky on a very longshot draw? (not meaning to sound bitter, just stating a fact)personally, i never type "nh" or anything online. i rarely type at all, actually, only if i know the person. live, i'll say nice hand if they actually did play it well, otherwise i'll just laugh it off or something.just wondering what others' thoughts are.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
NormanHaupt 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 heh thats what you get for playing against allinbluff Link to post Share on other sites
PestoSauce 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Solid players at the table (if there were any) knew he got lucky to catch runner runner. Sometimes after a bad beat, I'll say "nice hand" just becaue it's the polite thing to do. But in my mind, I'm saying "You lucky SOB". One thing I do know is that it will be easier to get those chips back (maybe not) from a loose caller like that than from a solid player. those are just my thoughts. I don't play online, so I actually have to "face" the sucker at the table. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'd say "nh" and make sure he heard me so keeps on doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
Sendachi 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I always say "nice hand" to encourage them to keep making those kinds of decisions. I know it'll swing in my favor in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I can't stand the people who say NH all the time. They do it at the worst freakin times. It's like you're all in pre-flop with AK... and get called by AQ... and it holds up... Then someone says NH.Um... NO! We were all in PREFLOP!! There was nothing nice except my freaking hand held up... I had nothing to do with the outcome, what exactly did I do that was so nice? BLAH I HATE IT! Link to post Share on other sites
avsfan 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 i look at it like, you did what you wanted to and it worked out for you. YOU WON! vn. guesss im just lame Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Im with Sendachi - its part of the psychological warfare. Saying 'nh' is a good way to artificially pump a person's ego for doing something stupid, so he keeps on doing it. Sometimes when after a bad beat and someone is on the verge of tilt, Ill use the chat box to 'push him over the edge'. That helps target his tilt rage in my direction, which usually means profit.If you aren't using the chat box during play, you really are fighting with one hand behind your back.Dev Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 i used to never type anything in either but lately i find it really helps me to laugh off a bad beat by typing in "nice play" and then getting a "ty" in return. plus it builds the persons confidence in what they are doing (playing poorly) and they will probably stay at the table long enough for me to win my money back. the thing that really pisses me off is when good players start berating the bad players at the table. thats got to be the dumbest thing i think you could do. Link to post Share on other sites
KramitDaToad 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Im with Sendachi - its part of the psychological warfare. Â Saying 'nh' is a good way to artificially pump a person's ego for doing something stupid, so he keeps on doing it. Â Sometimes when after a bad beat and someone is on the verge of tilt, Ill use the chat box to 'push him over the edge'. Â That helps target his tilt rage in my direction, which usually means profit.If you aren't using the chat box during play, you really are fighting with one hand behind your back.DevWell put. The player who said 'nh' gets 2 big bonuses here for 3 key strokes1) The fish keep swimming2) He gets under your skin and pushes you towards tilting - not suggesting for a minute that you tilted after this, however it did annoy you didn't it - just a little bit :wink: - otherwise this thread probably wouldn't have started Link to post Share on other sites
troutsmart 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I suppose that I'm a contrarian. When I tell a player "nice hand," I generally am sincere, and when I'm told "nh", I thankfully type a "ty". It's the same thing when I pass somebody on the street and I say "hello." I'm probably obnioxiously friendly, but I mean it, and when they say "hello" in return, I feel good. What I'm getting at is the fact that context and the subtext(or true meaning) are felt. If a player plays with me long enough, they know I'm sincere when I type "nh." They return the favor, and I trust their sincerity. Of course, I do sometimes draw out on someone by accident, and if they haven't played with me for a while, they'll type "nh." I'll at that point, say something that acknowledges that I know that I got lucky. Soon, when they say "nh", it too will be sincere. Wow. Do I really live in such a world of Good Karma? Even I think this post is garbage. Link to post Share on other sites
MrConceit 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 The thing is, few people say nh ever when there was a nice play. They tend to say it for anything they think is a "nice hand". Which can mean anything from two pair or better to a straight or better usually. They don't care if you hit a runner runner backdoor straight or whatever ridiculous hand, if the end hand is a "nice hand" in their mind, they are gonna say it. Or even vnh!I mean come on Aseem! He had nut flush! :twisted: But yeah, I've gotten irritated occasionally by other people saying "vnh" or "nh" to a fish who sucked out hard, but usually just internally irritated.I had your classic great suckout yesterday. Very standard stuff, very annoying hah.I have AKo, raise preflop from early, 3 coldcallers and both blinds call. Good stuff lemme tell you. Flop is A25, 2 clubs. Blinds check, I bet out, and a strange thing happens. Every single person but like 1 of the coldcallers folds and he flat calls. Turn is offsuit Q. I bet, he calls. River is an offsuit 9. I go for an obvious value bet, get raised. I'm like thinking "joy", A9 is it? Oh no, he had a very awesome 99 and was chasing a 2 outer.That or he believed he had KJo or 77 or something. Link to post Share on other sites
phidragonslayer 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I usually only type NH when I get a nasty beat. Or if I am in 4th place in a S-N-G and someone takes another person out :twisted: . Link to post Share on other sites
Socrates 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 In B&M play I'll say "nice hand" or something like "wow, I really got outplayed on that one" - here's the thing, when I say those things it is usually to an idiot who played K4 and hit the runner runner flush. It does pump up their ego becasue they came in knowing that they were a weak player. Now they think they have the table. Most of the people can already see it coming, it's usually a while later when you catch a monster and he tries to "outplay" you again; only this time you take him and promptly remind him "you know that hand you played 40 minutes ago when you did X etc...that was your mistake, now everyone here knows how to beat you" Have you ever seen an ego deflate in front of you? It's particularly effective if the others at the table knew you were solid, he was a chump and that you were setting him up. Nothing drives a loser nuts like the rest of the table chuckling at him.With me, it's something I have to be careful with, it can't be said in such a cocky manner that people come after me, because the truth is that someone at that table probably can outplay me at any time. If I do it at all, it's for the reason of setting someone up and then it's over, I'll do it to one, not any more than that in that session. The other way to keep it on even keel is to sincerely congratulate people on their good hands when you get beat. Link to post Share on other sites
Solodell 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 take a bad beat, say nh, dripping with sarcasm.....text doesn't really show that. Reall should read nh :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
Dane 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Its because you only type part of what you mean, like this you type, ,nice, you leave out, to have a fish like you at the table. Link to post Share on other sites
deadmoney 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Most people at low limit tables don't know how to play a nice hand or even know when someone has played a nice hand and extracted the most money they can from some unsuspecting fool. It's crazy! Good players know the difference between a really well played hand and someone who gets lucky and draws out. So if you continue to play the low limit games, I suggest turning your chat off. It's not worth explaining to the sucker's what a nice hand really is!! Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I usually don't chat. I'd rather remain as anon. as possible o people. One guy asked me to tell him nice hand after a bad beat, I told him off then. I mean seriously he said it was good etiquette and I'm sitting here ticked that he cracked my set with some pissant BS suited cards. This is one of the few times I've ever exploded on someone, but it was because he felt that you should say nice hand and asked me to say it. I say it if I want to say it Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I usually don't chat. I'd rather remain as anon. as possible o people. One guy asked me to tell him nice hand after a bad beat, I told him off then. I mean seriously he said it was good etiquette and I'm sitting here ticked that he cracked my set with some censored BS suited cards. This is one of the few times I've ever exploded on someone, but it was because he felt that you should say nice hand and asked me to say it. I say it if I want to say itSounds like you tilted, and yelled to the world that yes, Im on tilt and I want everyone to know it.Pound your couch for a few minutes after a bad beat - never give the opposition the information you just did. Every piece of info you give them is ammunition against you. Dev Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I usually don't chat. I'd rather remain as anon. as possible o people. One guy asked me to tell him nice hand after a bad beat, I told him off then. I mean seriously he said it was good etiquette and I'm sitting here ticked that he cracked my set with some censored BS suited cards. This is one of the few times I've ever exploded on someone, but it was because he felt that you should say nice hand and asked me to say it. I say it if I want to say itSounds like you tilted, and yelled to the world that yes, Im on tilt and I want everyone to know it.Pound your couch for a few minutes after a bad beat - never give the opposition the information you just did. Every piece of info you give them is ammunition against you. Deva bit yes, but the guy told me I had to say Nice Hand to him, I ignored him for a little bit and he kept on at me saying I'm waiting, I replied waiting for what, for you to say nice hand. After a couple of those I went off on him. Trust me you would've done the same Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'd say "nh" and make sure he heard me so keeps on doing it. this is my approach as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 a bit yes, but the guy told me I had to say Nice Hand to him, I ignored him for a little bit and he kept on at me saying I'm waiting, I replied waiting for what, for you to say nice hand. After a couple of those I went off on him. Trust me you would've done the sameActually quite the reverse - sounds like he was getting peeved, and if you had just goaded him a bit more, I bet you could have him full tilt on you in no time. I simply LIVE for people that love to go off on me . . . its like poking a pitbul in a cage with a stick. They go completely wrangy.No dogs were injured in the making of this posting . . .Dev Link to post Share on other sites
sportsbettingman 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Ha...dogs...Just watched the movie "snatch" last night...great flik. (Brick Top)~Lance Link to post Share on other sites
Jrobb25 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 being nice is overated....he clearly doesnt know how to play if he is looking for runnner runner....nice hand is so overrated..he was a lucky sob and he should say nh to you for being an idiot. 8) I couldnt even beat a bluff! Link to post Share on other sites
jayistheman 0 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 a bit yes, but the guy told me I had to say Nice Hand to him, I ignored him for a little bit and he kept on at me saying I'm waiting, I replied waiting for what, for you to say nice hand. After a couple of those I went off on him. Trust me you would've done the sameActually quite the reverse - sounds like he was getting peeved, and if you had just goaded him a bit more, I bet you could have him full tilt on you in no time. I simply LIVE for people that love to go off on me . . . its like poking a pitbul in a cage with a stick. They go completely wrangy.No dogs were injured in the making of this posting . . .Devdoubtful... he was definately trying to pick a fight...... when was the last time you saw someone actually care if you said "nh" Link to post Share on other sites
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