showdowns won percentage

[Smiff85 0]

I was just wondering what other peoples views on this were, i have been playing online poker for about a year now. I have read a few books on poker the first being poker nation by Andy Bellin which basically got me hooked on poker. i regularly play low limit holdem cash games and i think i've got a reasonable grasp of the basics of the game ie; starting hand selection and pot odds but i know there is plenty of room for improvement and a lot to learn. On the cardplayer.com forum i read a post from an online poker player saying that to be profitable you should be winning 70%+ of your showdowns and when i checked that stat on my online poker account i saw that it was at 65%. But i was thinking surely if your winning more than 50% of your showdowns your bound to be profitable over the long run i was just wondering what people think about the sort of percentage you should aim for when hoping to be a reasonably profitable player and whether there are more important stats to look at when trying to assess your expected value. Any help would be appreciated thanks a lot.

[Vade 0]

Well, at the moment, I'm at a little over 50%.I'm somewhat ahead over the last few thousand hands, but I need to improve my showdown percentage. Size of the pots you win matters too. If I lose 5 or 6 5 BB pots in a row, and win one 30 BB monster, then I'm doing well :)Note: 30 BB pots come around once in a blue moon in fixed limit holdem

[Suited_Up 2]

I'm not a huge stats guy and can't break em all down really... But 65% sounds pretty decent. If you find that number low at any point, most of the time it's either because you call too much with losing hands, or you fold winners too much. Probably a combination. A lot of times, when people are trying to play their best, they end up throwing away winning hands on the end, trying to make a good laydown. This doesn't go into the showdown category at that point, but if you did make the calls, and won the majority, your % would go up also. On this subject, I saw Hellmuth on TV today, throw away QQ when a K came on the flop and was bet into with QJ... Throw away AK faced with an all-in.... *All-In had AQ*Don't be Hellmuth... make smart laydowns, but don't find pride in making big ones. More money is made when you make that call, especially when you have the odds to do so. Maybe more so in limit than NL, but keep it in mind.Overall though I think 65% is pretty decent.

[KDawgCometh 2]

I was just wondering what other peoples views on this were, i have been playing online poker for about a year now. I have read a few books on poker the first being poker nation by Andy Bellin which basically got me hooked on poker. i regularly play low limit holdem cash games and i think i've got a reasonable grasp of the basics of the game ie; starting hand selection and pot odds but i know there is plenty of room for improvement and a lot to learn. On the cardplayer.com forum i read a post from an online poker player saying that to be profitable you should be winning 70%+ of your showdowns and when i checked that stat on my online poker account i saw that it was at 65%. But i was thinking surely if your winning more than 50% of your showdowns your bound to be profitable over the long run i was just wondering what people think about the sort of percentage you should aim for when hoping to be a reasonably profitable player and whether there are more important stats to look at when trying to assess your expected value. Any help would be appreciated thanks a lot.

65% is perfectly fine. In fact its really good. winning 2/3 of your showdowns is definetly a winning rate.

[troutsmart 0]

I guess I could stand some improvement, but I show a 56% showdown rate over 20000 hands this year, and but still manage a 3BB/hr rate. I think it is largely relative to many factors including among them average pot size won vs. lost. I typically have a decent idea I might be beat when I lose and typically keep it to a single bet on both the turn and river, while I might collect an extra bet with a typical winning hand.

[KDawgCometh 2]

I guess I could stand some improvement, but I show a 56% showdown rate over 20000 hands this year, and but still manage a 3BB/hr rate. I think it is largely relative to many factors including among them average pot size won vs. lost. I typically have a decent idea I might be beat when I lose and typically keep it to a single bet on both the turn and river, while I might collect an extra bet with a typical winning hand.

I have a 1.71 BB/100 rate with a 49.81%, this is probably due to pot size and taking down many pots without a showdown

[Smasharoo 0]

But i was thinking surely if your winning more than 50% of your showdowns your bound to be profitable over the long runOnly if you never folded or never played heads up.I'm around 60%. If you're at 70% it's very likely you're folding too many winners.

[KramitDaToad 0]

I guess I could stand some improvement, but I show a 56% showdown rate over 20000 hands this year, and but still manage a 3BB/hr rate.  I think it is largely relative to many factors including among them average pot size won vs. lost.  I typically have a decent idea I might be beat when I lose and typically keep it to a single bet on both the turn and river, while I might collect an extra bet with a typical winning hand.

But i was thinking surely if your winning more than 50% of your showdowns your bound to be profitable over the long runOnly if you never folded or never played heads up.I'm around 60%.  If you're at 70% it's very likely you're folding too many winners.

trouts @ 3BB/hr (/100 would be more useful) for 20,000 hands (not sure what limits and how many tables at once) and winning 56% of showdowns.I remember Smash saying he was planted at exactly 2BB/100 for 100,000+ hands multitabling 4 @ 3/6 and is around 60% wins for showdown.I'm at 2.65BB/100 for 10,000 hands mutlitabling 3 @ 3/6, however I know this rate is inflated as I had a very postive run when I first started using PT and the figure is slowly 'correcting' towards Smashes figures. I'm at 58% wins for showdown.There are 3 +'ve results for 1,000's of hands with showdowns of circa 60%.Try finding some folks with 70% and see what their BB/100 sits at to do a apple to oranges comparison.The PT forum should have a few folks that can help with that question

[troutsmart 0]

trouts @ 3BB/hr (/100 would be more useful) for 20,000 hands (not sure what limits and how many tables at once) and winning 56% of showdowns. In hindsight, the numbers I have posted, though accurate according to my own personal calculations, are probably not a good basis in which to determine a successful showdown rate. I keep my own records, and unfortuntely do not use pokertracker or a program that would provide a truly accurate number. In addition, I've played at three different limits during those 20,000 hands, going from 10c/20c, 25c/50c to 50c/$1, where I currently play. I had a tremendous run of cards at the 10c/20c level, which dramatically alters my averages. Included, however is a very terrible run of cards at the 50c/$1 limit, from which I have recovered. Thus, I have determined that my numbers are worthless for an accurate representation of a successful showdown rate. I apologize for my error.