lister14 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 late last night i was playing at the taj andthere was a big game going on in the high limit section. nick schulman, of wpt and internet fame was getting crushed in a 4k 8k limit holdem match. one of the 2 looked like david oppenheim, but im not sure. the other player i have no idea who he was. by about 4:30 am the massacre was over. nick was sitting out of the game with just a few chips left, his pockets about 300k lighter. his eyes were glazed over as if in disbelief. he finally got up and made his exit while the other 2 played on. within a half hour of him leaving they both quit. was anyone else there last night? amir vahedi was there briefly as was paul darden.i guess these guys are in town because of the wpt event at the borgata. some people who watched the whole match told me it looked like blatant collusion. too bad if it was schulman seemed like a nice kid. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I doubt someone like Oppenheim needs to collude with someone to take Schulman's money in a high limit cash game.Sounds more like someone was playing over their head. Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Poker Players don't win everytime they play. Link to post Share on other sites
lister14 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 Poker Players don't win everytime they play.u have it all figured out and so win the title of captain obvious. ceos dont dump their own stock just before their corps go under, priests dont molest little boys, and high stakes shorthanded players dont collude. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Lister could have a point but of course i dont know for sure. Im not nieve enough to discount the accusations though. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Poker Players don't win everytime they play.They also win less frequently when they are playing much better opponents. Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Poker Players don't win everytime they play.They also win less frequently when they are playing much better opponents.yes good observation Link to post Share on other sites
76clubs 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I dont care Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Poker Players don't win everytime they play.u have it all figured out and so win the title of captain obvious. ceos dont dump their own stock just before their corps go under, priests dont molest little boys, and high stakes shorthanded players dont collude.Why would he Oppenheim need to? Schulman isn't anywhere near his league. Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Schulman could not hold his own in a game that high.... are you kidding me... Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 You don't from playing cash games with Paul Darden to cash games with David Oppenheim. I don't care how big your roll is. Link to post Share on other sites
Kangaroo 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 well considering in several blogs daniel has said hes been down $150,000 straight off the bat in the big game and that it isn't abnormal in the big game, Id probably be inclined to say 300k isnt that amazing at these limits.if he can lose 300k Id say hes got a fair bit more behind him, unless he's an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 5 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Poker Players don't win everytime they play.u have it all figured out and so win the title of captain obvious. ceos dont dump their own stock just before their corps go under, priests dont molest little boys, and high stakes shorthanded players dont collude.Lord knows I collude all the time... Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 well considering in several blogs daniel has said hes been down $150,000 straight off the bat in the big game and that it isn't abnormal in the big game, Id probably be inclined to say 300k isnt that amazing at these limits.if he can lose 300k Id say hes got a fair bit more behind him, unless he's an idiot.Not only that but these guys were playing 4k/8k and in the Big Game Daniel is playing 2k/4k. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Uhm, they're playing 4k/8k.300k is equivalent to less than 30 big bets.And it's short handed. I sincerely doubt that he's hanging his head in disbelief over something like that, unless he was completely delusional from the get go. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Uhm, they're playing 4k/8k.300k is equivalent to less than 30 big bets.And it's short handed. I sincerely doubt that he's hanging his head in disbelief over something like that, unless he was completely delusional from the get go.It maybe be only 30 big bets which is obviously not a catasptrophe, but I doubt he is comfortable with the swing at this level. Mving up limits isn't just about building a bankroll, its about maturing as a player.He jumped right up in limits after his win, and was playing 75/150 before that. 300k is alot of money when you are playing a game you aren't ready for. Link to post Share on other sites
ArseneLupin3 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Uhm, they're playing 4k/8k.300k is equivalent to less than 30 big bets.And it's short handed. I sincerely doubt that he's hanging his head in disbelief over something like that, unless he was completely delusional from the get go.300/8 = 37.5 Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 He just won 2 million, and he had a ton of money b4 that, I think he can survive a 300k downswing. Link to post Share on other sites
bm99 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Oppenheim is one of the best in the world at SH LHE, I'm not surprised at this result. Then again, it is only 30 big bets. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 He just won 2 million, and he had a ton of money b4 that, I think he can survive a 300k downswing.Yea he can suffer a 300k downswing but we're talking about one session.He got probably around 1.3 - 1.4 mill after taxes and I doubt he had a huge roll before that. Obviously much bigger than most of us will ever have but not big enough compared w/ the 4k/8k game.300k is a huge hit for him in one session. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I'm so disappointed.I read the title and was certain to here about how he got crushed between a bus and a concrete building. Link to post Share on other sites
Longshanks 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 nick sculman? is that the black kid who has his own nickeloeden show and was in that high school movie? Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Umm, does that 14 stand for 14 years old? 300k is not a lot to lose for Schulman, especially after winning 2.1 million a few months ago, and sorry to say there is no collusion going on between David Oppenheim and whomever else was at the table. Honestly, that's not a big swing. It's like Daniel being down 35k at the 500/1000 limit matches he's played. At one point Daniel lost 150k in a roll, still love him tho. I think you may be exagerating your story a bit my friend. A look of dissbelief? Are you sure it wasn't beefaroni? Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 He just won 2 million, and he had a ton of money b4 that, I think he can survive a 300k downswing.Yea he can suffer a 300k downswing but we're talking about one session.He got probably around 1.3 - 1.4 mill after taxes and I doubt he had a huge roll before that. Obviously much bigger than most of us will ever have but not big enough compared w/ the 4k/8k game.300k is a huge hit for him in one session.He was playing destroying 50/100 NL on UB for quite a while. He's also a hugely successful online tournament player.I agree that he probably won't be playing 4k/8k again for a while. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I seriously doubt that the takeover really cares too much about that loss. He has played in high stakes games for a year now in NYC. Can he handle David Oppenheim, not at this time, but there is really no point in trying to talk shit about a player that is much better then all but the owner of this forum. If you are so confident in the Takeover being so bad, challenge him to a HU sng or sit down at the 100/200 game at stars and play him HU or short handed. I'd like to hear about your story after that one Link to post Share on other sites
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