On Auto Tilt 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 So im in a super aggressive full table PLO8 game at full tilt and long story short its raised and reraised in front of me...I hold Kd Qd Ac Qc and make it 170 to go total and im all in..I get called in 3 places for a total pot of 480.00 preflop in middle with no postflop action as I had table covered....here are the hands:3s 2c 5s Ah 5h 4h Ad 3cAs 2d 7s 8dKd Qd Ac Qc <----me Do you like this line here? I mean with that much preflop action I felt like I was against at least 2 LOW hands and even if one hand is AA2X I have lotta outs here...Ill post results after some replys on how you all would play this hand ...btw I was in last position and had the option of raising all in as all callers were in front of me..which I did.Auto Link to post Share on other sites
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akishore 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 wow, that's crazy.it wasn't a bad call, i'm just not sure i would have done the same. the only problems with the hand are:1. it can't scoop. anytime i put in a lot pre-flop, i want to have either a good scooping hand, or a monster in one direction (preferably high).2. since it couldn't scoop, it should have been a monster in one direction, but it wasn't quite. in retrospect, you will almost definitely take down the high (since all four aces are out, and no other hand has a king), but without knowing that, i wouldn't be too confident in QQ as a pair and AK DS to hold up with that much preflop action.i might be wrong, it's a very marginal decision either way. i think you played it fine, would love to see the result.just out of curiousity, anyone know the percentages of those hands preflop?aseem Link to post Share on other sites
On Auto Tilt 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=784885pokenum -o8 3s 2c 5s ah - 5h 4h ad 3c - as 2d 7s 8d - kd qd ac qc Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 376992 enumerated boardscards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV5s 3s 2c Ah 1348 6298 347912 22782 0 11690 152450 0.1283c Ad 5h 4h 31964 69906 286793 20293 12988 100675 49716 0.191As 7s 8d 2d 36307 83277 290588 3127 0 58735 103442 0.230Ac Qc Kd Qd 145785 194602 182390 0 0 0 0 0.451against these hands my hand is scooping 145785/376992 Link to post Share on other sites
the_stein 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 3s 2c 5s Ah Scoop: 0%Hi: 2%HiTie: 6%Lo: 0%LoTie: 6%5h 4h Ad 3c Scoop: 8%Hi: 19%HiTie: 5%Lo: 3%LoTie: 5%As 2d 7s 8d Scoop: 10%Hi: 22%HiTie: 1%Lo: 0%LoTie: 1%Kd Qd Ac QcScoop: 39%Hi: 52%Lo: 0%good call Link to post Share on other sites
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MrConceit 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Very very ballsy for O8/b. I'm not really sure I even like it it's so ballsy. If you had AKKQ double suited quite possibly, but with it being QQ it's scary.If it was PLO alone then maybe moreso also. You got the best of all worlds though that they all had low hands, laugh.I would have figured 1 of them for AAxx or KKxx and likely not had the balls you did.It will be interesting to see final board. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 i bet it'll be something like [2s 3h x][4c][5d] (rainbow, all those cards are clean) so that all three hands tie for a scoop (since they all have a wheel low and a 5-high straight high), and the OP lost the whole pot. :-) aseem Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 actually, in retrospect, i might make the same move because that hand just looks so damn pretty, especially if it's the first hand you've had in an hour or so.just look at it:A K Q Q three premium cards, a premium pair, double-suited! it's a beauty, all right. i think an analogy in hold'em would be to calling multiway action with JJ or something.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
On Auto Tilt 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 Here is the FLOP and TURN3s 2c 5s Ah 5h 4h Ad 3c As 2d 7s 8d Kd Qd Ac Qc <----me Ts Jc 7h FLOP7d TURN......any idea on river? Link to post Share on other sites
MrConceit 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Here is the FLOP and TURN3s 2c 5s Ah 5h 4h Ad 3c As 2d 7s 8d Kd Qd Ac Qc <----me Ts Jc 7h FLOP7d TURN......any idea on river?Ideas? I'd hope it was a 9QK so you would win. But perhaps it's the case 7 so the guy with arguably the worst hand wins with quads? Link to post Share on other sites
On Auto Tilt 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 The river was the Q giving me top boat or straight as either won WOOHOOO Link to post Share on other sites
nopantsdance 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 wow, that's crazy.it wasn't a bad call, i'm just not sure i would have done the same. the only problems with the hand are:1. it can't scoop. anytime i put in a lot pre-flop, i want to have either a good scooping hand, or a monster in one direction (preferably high).2. since it couldn't scoop, it should have been a monster in one direction, but it wasn't quite. in retrospect, you will almost definitely take down the high (since all four aces are out, and no other hand has a king), but without knowing that, i wouldn't be too confident in QQ as a pair and AK DS to hold up with that much preflop action.i might be wrong, it's a very marginal decision either way. i think you played it fine, would love to see the result.just out of curiousity, anyone know the percentages of those hands preflop?aseemumm.. this hand can scoop. if the flop is three cards over a nine, he was most likely going to take this down. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 umm.. this hand can scoop. if the flop is three cards over a nine, he was most likely going to take this down.yeah, any high hand can scoop if there's no low. but by "scooping", i mean a hand that also has low potential. AK23 DS or AA24, etc. are scooping hands. AKQQ, while it can scoop, is not considered a scooping hand. but you're correct that it can scoop, and that's why big cards are very valuable in omaha hi/lo, since they have the ability to take down the whole pot if no low comes, via a straight or top boat, etc.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
The Ace of Jades 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Imagine being that guy with the 7. Shouting about his good fortunes and thanking every higher he can think of.......... Until the river. I predict a brain anurism in the making. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Wow what a great call, that is very impressive. since they all had low cards, the chance of there actually being a low if proly only like 30%. If you had them all on lows and figured that you might be good, then that's a great play. Wow, I wish i could do that. Could someone find the probability that a low actually comes, considering that there are 13 low cards gone? Link to post Share on other sites
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