tell me how stupid i am....please

[shamhawks 0]

I need to stay away from limit for awhile...had a good day going, up 40 bb in 2 hours, and piss it away, not concentrating and being too aggressive.***** Hand History for Game 1627706784 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Monday, February 21, 20:43:42 EDT 2005Table Table 30977 (Real Money)Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: MattMoney1 ( $31.25 )Seat 2: mitzudj ( $20 )Seat 3: allinluci ( $18.75 )Seat 4: jameswillie ( $5.87 )Seat 5: Exidna ( $58.5 )Seat 6: bl232 ( $37 )Seat 8: Boiler_Murph ( $30.5 )Seat 9: boinger9 ( $18.75 )Seat 7: shamhawks ( $23.25 )Seat 10: spanky7252 ( $25 )allinluci posts small blind [$0.25].jameswillie posts big blind [$0.5].spanky7252 posts big blind [$0.5].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to shamhawks [ Qd Kc ]Exidna folds.bl232 folds.shamhawks calls [$0.5].Boiler_Murph calls [$0.5].boinger9 calls [$0.5].spanky7252 checks.MattMoney1 calls [$0.5].mitzudj folds.allinluci calls [$0.25].jameswillie checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Kh, Qc ]allinluci checks.jameswillie checks.shamhawks bets [$0.5].Boiler_Murph raises [$1].boinger9 folds.spanky7252 folds.MattMoney1 folds.allinluci calls [$1].jameswillie folds.shamhawks calls [$0.5].** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]allinluci checks.shamhawks checks.Boiler_Murph bets [$1].allinluci folds.shamhawks raises [$2].Boiler_Murph raises [$2].shamhawks calls [$1].** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]shamhawks bets [$1].Boiler_Murph raises [$2].shamhawks calls [$1].Boiler_Murph shows [ Qh, 8d ] a full house, Eights full of queens.shamhawks doesn't show [ Qd, Kc ] two pairs, kings and queens.Boiler_Murph wins $15.75 from the main pot with a full house, Eights full of queens.Ok a little info on why i bet this way....this guy was betting crazy on earlier hands betting out and raising with small or no piece of the flop. I'm thinking he could have AK but no pre-flop raise, maybe q/a, or maybe even Ax...I do make a mistake by not capping the flop, but I wanted him in there and did not want to scare him away Big mistake being that he was a loose player when the 8 comes on the turn, i could have put him on it, but that is the only dang card he could get to beat my hand. It's that kind of thought process that gets me on some of these hands, especially when I'm up for a session...get to loose in my thinking :x any thoughts...other than i need to quit limit for awhile...I think I'm playing so much NL that it's messing with my cash games

[the_stein 0]

how is that stupid? it was fine

[anto1180 0]

Someone played a trash hand and caught a fullhouse...It happens. You should have raised preflop though and he probably would have layed down q8 but again you never know with the maniacs out there. A postflop cap would have been correct but there is no way that you would have gotten him to lay down his two pair after the flop.

[shamhawks 0]

I guess, cuz if I put this player on an eight i could have slowed down and saved 3 bucks, this is kind of a accumilating post though with top 2 pair on the flop. Every big beat I had today was with top 2 pair and someone catching st8's on the river against me...That's the bad thing with top 2 pair in limit, 1 more big card comes off and there is a good chance for a st8 out there, and it's usually a big pot you lose in these.

[anto1180 0]

You shouldn't be worried about scaring out loose players as you have described this person...instead you should punish them with raises as they will often chase as dogs and weak starting hands. In the example you gave, it was obviously the prototypical example of how slowplaying can hurt you because you waited until he made his hand and then started raising...I don't like to slowplay because i feel a lot worse when i lose slowplaying than i do when i lose money playing 'normally' with some strength, but that's just me.

[Awful 0]

I need to stay away from limit for awhile...had a good day going, up 40 bb in 2 hours, and censored it away, not concentrating and being too aggressive.***** Hand History for Game 1627706784 *****$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Monday, February 21, 20:43:42 EDT 2005Table Table  30977 (Real Money)Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10  Seat 1: MattMoney1 ( $31.25 )Seat 2: mitzudj ( $20 )Seat 3: allinluci ( $18.75 )Seat 4: jameswillie ( $5.87 )Seat 5: Exidna ( $58.5 )Seat 6: bl232 ( $37 )Seat 8: Boiler_Murph ( $30.5 )Seat 9: boinger9 ( $18.75 )Seat 7: shamhawks ( $23.25 )Seat 10: spanky7252 ( $25 )allinluci posts small blind [$0.25].jameswillie posts big blind [$0.5].spanky7252 posts big blind [$0.5].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to shamhawks [  Qd Kc ]Exidna folds.bl232 folds.shamhawks calls [$0.5].Boiler_Murph calls [$0.5].boinger9 calls [$0.5].spanky7252 checks.MattMoney1 calls [$0.5].mitzudj folds.allinluci calls [$0.25].jameswillie checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Kh, Qc ]allinluci checks.jameswillie checks.shamhawks bets [$0.5].Boiler_Murph raises [$1].boinger9 folds.spanky7252 folds.MattMoney1 folds.allinluci calls [$1].jameswillie folds.shamhawks calls [$0.5].** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]allinluci checks.shamhawks checks.Boiler_Murph bets [$1].allinluci folds.shamhawks raises [$2].Boiler_Murph raises [$2].shamhawks calls [$1].** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]shamhawks bets [$1].Boiler_Murph raises [$2].shamhawks calls [$1].Boiler_Murph shows [ Qh, 8d ] a full house, Eights full of queens.shamhawks doesn't show [ Qd, Kc ] two pairs, kings and queens.Boiler_Murph wins $15.75 from  the main pot  with a full house, Eights full of queens.Ok a little info on why i bet this way....this guy was betting crazy on earlier hands betting out and raising with small or no piece of the flop. I'm thinking he could have AK but no pre-flop raise, maybe q/a, or maybe even Ax...I do make a mistake by not capping the flop, but I wanted him in there and did not want to scare him away  Big mistake being that he was a loose player when the 8 comes on the turn, i could have put him on it, but that is the only dang card he could get to beat my hand. It's that kind of thought process that gets me on some of these hands, especially when I'm up for a session...get to loose in my thinking  :x  any thoughts...other than i need to quit limit for awhile...I think I'm playing so much NL that it's messing with my cash games

I reraise the flop, then he'll likely cap, then I bet the turn out, call his raise, check-call river, and think to myself how rarely those 2-outers make it.

[Shellesund 0]

Well, there`s no need to tell it (the play, NOT you) was stupid, as you clearly understand that perfectly well.I`m not going to argue that betting more preflop would have helped, as we all know that low-limit players don`t scare easily.I`m merely passing on an advice I`ve read several places (think I read in a Lee Jones book recently). I don`t remember the exact phrasing, but it goes something like: If there`s a raise and/or a reraise, look for a reason to get out!And in my humble opinion, putting him on an eight was....well, not VERY unlikely, and though I think you played it perfectly ok until the turn, you might want to put the brakes on when the board paired and he comes over the top on you. You said it yourself, he was playing loose and agressive, and could probably have anything preflop...On the other hand, I think HE played it very well, disregarding the fact that he shouldn`t be calling preflop. He bet standard, raised standard, and got the maximum from you.

[dominiksdad 0]

you're so stupid that........you couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel you thought a quarterback was a refundyou spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice box because it said "concentrate"you put lipstick on your forehead because you wanted to make up your mind Actually I think your play was fine - top two pair against a maniac is usually a winning hand

[SuperNashwan 0]

I`m not going to argue that betting more preflop would have helped, as we all know that low-limit players don`t scare easily.

Still should be raising pre-flop because your pot equity at that point is an edge worth pushing, especially when you're first in and can make everyone outside the blinds face two cold. Obviously if his 8 doesn't come on the turn here, which is what happens most times, you'll be glad of putting that extra money in pre-flop.

[troutsmart 0]

Your play is understandable vs. a maniac. However, if you enter the pot UTG with KQ, a raise is in order. I don't care for betting out on the river after you've been reraised on the turn. Check and call under such circumstances, regardless if it's a maniac, unless you have a very strong hand.

[JFarrell20 1]

Raise preflop with KQ in early pos. Get those Q-8 hands outta there.His aggressive re-raise on the turn tells me I'm beat (although technically you were still ahead). Thus, I'm check/calling the river to save 1 bb.For the most part, an unlucky hand, but had you raised pre-flop you may have won a smaller pot instead of losing a bigger one.