what music are you guys listening to?

[uncooper 1]

I've been meaning to listen to the Crank 2 OST which Mike Patton did. I'm three tracks in, and it is very good so far.

[timwakefield 68]

9. outkast- stankonia12. madlib- beat konducta vol. 5: dil cosby suite15. jay dee- donuts

There we go . BTW, have you listened to OB4CL2? Looking at your list, I would expect that album to make it. Also, I am now getting A Dipset Christmas. Is there a reason that a fairly unknown release is your #1? Is it just really truly excellent, or is there another reason you have it at #1?

[Speed Limit 0]

OB4CLII is silly good.I've also spun some DOOM today whilst in my car for a long drive.

[timwakefield 68]

4 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)2 Members: timwakefield, LongLiveYorkeHey so what are we doing as far as the best of the decade lists?

OB4CLII is silly good.

I wish RZA had taken some verses, because he's awesome/hilarious on 'Black Mozart.' '10 Bricks' is my favorite track right now. Not to talk bad about Ghostface (he's amazing on this album) or DOOM, but they've constantly disappointed on Dillabeats. Even friggin 'One For Ghost' I like a lot better without Ghost on it. But what I'm saying is - Raekwon absolutely kills '10 Bricks' and 'Ason Jones.' HoFD was clearly made for Rae to rap on, but the other 2 certainly were not, and they're both just phenomenal. Oh and speaking of Ghostface, his verse on 'Gihad' is ridiculous, hilarious, and disgusting. 'Kiss The Ring' is also great. Also, Cappadonna is kind of good on this album. It's definitely cracking my top 10.This video is pretty awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyKsJEx-DY. Raekwon talking about the production of the album, the various producers, and especially Dilla. "He's like a Dre and a RZA, like a combo."

[RonBurgundy 0]

Also, I am now getting A Dipset Christmas. Is there a reason that a fairly unknown release is your #1? Is it just really truly excellent, or is there another reason you have it at #1?

no, it was a joke after i found out that my real number 1 (agaetis byrjun) was released in mid-1999maybe ill squeeze fishscale or below the heavens in somewhere to round out a real top 35(mostly i just didnt want to change all the numbers)

[mk 11]

Okay, so big question.Does agaetis byrjun count as being from the 90's or the 00's? According to Wiki, it was released in 1999.

i think it wasn't released in the u.s. until 2000 so i included it. if we're leaving it out, that's fine too...as for leaving out jaydee and outkast...i had them in there for a long time but they eventually got cut because i got real with myself and ranked strictly off personal taste rather than importance, and while i admire outkast and jay immensely i had to admit that i don't necessarily love their music as much as some others.i also assumed a lot of people would have the white stripes high on their list, but i've simply never been a fan.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Hey so what are we doing as far as the best of the decade lists?

I think the final verdict is that, if you'd like, you can submit them to this thread or directly to me via PM in the next few days or so and I'll start compiling them all together to make a FCP meta list. But the deadlines aren't necessarily firm and people can make changes over the next two weeks or so, as they see fit. So, if you have a list, we'd all love to see it. And if not, you still have time to work it out.I'm not sure what to do about the Sigur Ros album in question. Personally, I know it's going to have a VERY high spot on my list if it's included. Oh well.

[Freddec 0]

anyone dig on some Ghostland Observatory? very cool electro rock from Austin.......kinda Daft punk-ish kinda not.....

[timwakefield 68]

But the deadlines aren't necessarily firm and people can make changes over the next two weeks or so, as they see fit. So, if you have a list, we'd all love to see it. And if not, you still have time to work it out.

Cool. By the way, that Sigur Ros album? I know it is listed as 1999 but I saw it on somebody's best of the decade thing recently, not on fcp. I don't remember where - maybe some of the tracks were in pitchfork's 500 song list? Maybe the album was released in the states in 2000 or something? I've literally never heard the album in question, but with all this talk about it I decided maybe I should. Anyways, it might count.

[bigkg 0]

Cool. By the way, that Sigur Ros album? I know it is listed as 1999 but I saw it on somebody's best of the decade thing recently, not on fcp. I don't remember where - maybe some of the tracks were in pitchfork's 500 song list? Maybe the album was released in the states in 2000 or something? I've literally never heard the album in question, but with all this talk about it I decided maybe I should. Anyways, it might count.

It's on Pitchforks's top 100 albums of 2000-2004. And according to Wikipedia it was released in the UK in 2000 and in North America in 2001.Also, it's really fucking good, so you should definitely check it out.

[RonBurgundy 0]

i think it wasn't released in the u.s. until 2000 so i included it.

mk hath spoken. yay for ethnocentricity!!! sigur ros, reclaim your throne.

[timwakefield 68]

as for leaving out jaydee and outkast...i had them in there for a long time but they eventually got cut because i got real with myself and ranked strictly off personal taste rather than importance, and while i admire outkast and jay immensely i had to admit that i don't necessarily love their music as much as some others.i also assumed a lot of people would have the white stripes high on their list, but i've simply never been a fan.

Yeah, I've been having a hard time with my list, and so I'm now just thinking about it as my favorite albums of the decade, or the albums which have had the largest effect on me, and throwing out any other criteria. The thing with me is, I only seriously delved into this decade within the last year. A few of the albums on my list I've been listening to since they came out, but really only a very few. Anyways, I guess the point I'm trying to make is twofold: First, I agree that "importance" is an unhelpful criteria to try and use, and second that my list is going to be far less 'definitive' in my own eyes than most of y'alls are, because I'm sure there are albums I have not yet heard which will make my list once I hear them. So, yadda yadda. Anyways, here's a super-rough draft I made, which I figure I might as well post for the sake of whatever. It is extremely rough - not because I haven't spent time thinking about it, but because I haven't come to many conclusions yet. Anyways, that's why I didn't bother numbering it, or making it a round number. 1. J Dilla - Donuts2. The White Stripes - Elephant3. Outkast - Stankonia 4. Radiohead - Kid ARaekwon - OB4CL2 (yep)Jay-Z - The Black AlbumLCD Soundsystem - Sound of SilverMadvillain - MadvillainyFour Tet - RoundsAmon Tobin - SupermodifiedGhostface Killah - Supreme ClienteleKashiwa Daisuke - Program Music IJ Dilla - The ShiningDeltron 3030 - Deltron 3030Burial - BurialPrefuse 73 - One Word ExtinguisherThe Avalanches - Since I Left Yousome maybes: DJ Danger Mouse - The Grey AlbumCommon - Like Water For ChocolateThe Bug - London ZooClipse - Hell Hath No FuryEdan - Beauty And The BeatThose are by no means my only maybes, just a few. And yeah, I count about 8 albums there that I hadn't even heard of before this summer. You guys get close to full credit on about 5 of them, so....thanks. :)Edit: Brother Ali's Shadows On The Sun is almost definitely gonna make my list. I'd forgotten how truly good it is, until I listened to it again.

[SuperJon 175]

Anyone ever listen to Damien Rice?I only have one live album of his.It's good if you're in the mood for some seriously depressing slit your wrist type of music.

[lvpro 0]

I'm not sure I'm ready for the pressure of this list. I've worked on it a little... I'll try to get it finished tomorrow. At work, of course.Been listening to Blueprint 3 (me likey), JJ (N o 2) and Blue Scholars (OOF! EP).

[timwakefield 68]

I'm not sure I'm ready for the pressure of this list. I've worked on it a little... I'll try to get it finished tomorrow.

But the deadlines aren't necessarily firm and people can make changes over the next two weeks or so, as they see fit. So, if you have a list, we'd all love to see it. And if not, you still have time to work it out.

I hope that eases the pressure a bit.

[timwakefield 68]

More Jazz For Lady Grey!Here's some of my favorite Roland Kirk tracks, off various albums. They're all live, and I think you might especially like some of the old New Orleans stuff he does. The 20-minute version of 'Blue Trane' is also out of this world.Kirk Mix1. Make Me A Pallet On The Floor2. Cabin In The Sky3. Dem Red Beans And Rice4. If I Loved You5. Blue Trane6. Solo Improvisation (he really shows off on this track)7. Volunteered SlaveryAnd this is Baby Huey, his only album (heroin overdose, 26). Soul/funk/rock from 1971. He was produced by Curtis Mayfield. Baby Huey & The BabysittersI highly recommend both of these to everybody. Also, there is a tiny, almost un-noticable skip near the beginning of the first track of the Kirk mix. Anyways, it annoys me, but the rest of it is clean.

[mk 11]

mk hath spoken. yay for ethnocentricity!!! sigur ros, reclaim your throne.

i don't think it's being too ethnocentric if the album was only released in iceland in 1999, which allmusic confirms here.

[mk 11]

100) Max Richter – The Blue Notebooks (Fat Cat - 2004) 99) Cat Power – You Are Free (Matador – 2003) 98) Rufus Wainwright – Want One (Dreamworks – 2003) 97) Luciano – Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi._02 (Soma – 2006) 96) Boards of Canada – Geogaddi (Warp – 2002) 95) Fiona Apple – Extraordinary Machine (Jon Brion-produced version) (unreleased – 2005) 94) Portishead – Third (Mercury/Island – 2008) 93) M83 – Before the Dawn Heals Us (Mute – 2005) 92) Thom Yorke – The Eraser (XL – 2006) 91) The National – Boxer (Beggars Banquet – 2007) 90) Roots Manuva – Run Come Save Me (Big Dada – 2001) 89) Elton John – Songs From the West Coast (Universal – 2001) 88) Mr. Lif – I Phantom (Def Jux – 2002) 87) Radiohead – Hail to the Thief (Capitol – 2003) 86) Sonic Youth – Murray Street (Interscope – 2002) 85) Lil Wayne – Tha Carter III (Cash Money – 2008) 84) Mouse on Mars – Idiology (Thrill Jockey – 2001) 83) Phoenix – It's Never Been Like That (Astralwerks – 2006) 82) Manitoba – Up In Flames (Domino – 2003) 81) Gabriel Ananda – Dopplewhipper/Bambusbeats (Karmarouge – 2007) 80) PJ Harvey – Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea (Island – 2000) 79) El-P – Fantastic Damage (Def Jux – 2002) 78) Matthew Dear – Asa Breed (Ghostly International – 2007) 77) Blackalicious – Blazing Arrow – (Quannum – 2002) 76) Fennesz – Endless Summer (Mego – 2001) 75) Passion Pit – Manners (Columbia – 2009) 74) Nine Inch Nails – With Teeth (Nothing – 2005) 73) The Killers – Hot Fuss (Island – 2004) 72) Joanna Newsom – Ys (Drag City – 2006) 71) Missy Elliott – Under Construction (Elektra – 2002) 70) Arcade Fire – Neon Bible (Merge – 2007) 69) Jay-Z – The Black Album (Roc-a-Fella – 2003) 68) Brian Wilson – Smile (Nonesuch – 2004) 67) Ellen Allien – Berlinette (BPitch Control – 2003) 66) Coldplay – Parachutes (Capitol – 2000) 65) Spoon – Gimme Fiction (Merge – 2005) 64) The Bug – London Zoo (Ninja Tune – 2008) 63) Beck – Guero (Interscope – 2005) 62) M.I.A. – Kala (XL – 2007) 61) Phoenix – Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (Glassnote – 2009) 60) Grandaddy – The Sophtware Slump (V2 – 2000) 59) Postal Service – Give Up (Sub Pop – 2003) 58) Sigur Rós - Með Suð í Eyrum Við Spilum Endalaust (XL - 2007) 57) Metro Area – Metro Area (Environ – 2002) 56) Christopher Willits – Folding, and the Tea (12k – 2002) 55) Daft Punk – Discovery (Virgin – 2001) 54) Phantom Planet – The Guest (Epic – 2002) 53) Matmos – A Chance to Cut is a Chance to Cure (Matador – 2001) 52) Tortoise – Standards (Thrill Jockey – 2001) 51) M83 – Saturdays=Youth (Mute – 2008)50) The New Pornographers – Twin Cinema (Matador – 2005) 49) Spoon – Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga (Merge – 2007) 48) Coldplay – A Rush of Blood to the Head (Capitol – 2002) 47) Grizzly Bear – Yellow House (Warp – 2006) 46) Bjork – Vespertine (Elektra – 2001) 45) Burial – Untrue (Hyperdub – 2007) 44) The Shins – Chutes Too Narrow (Sub Pop – 2003) 43) Q-Tip – The Renaissance (Universal – 2008) 42) Aimee Mann – Bachelor No. 2 (Superego – 2000) 41) Ricardo Villalobos – Fizheuer Zieheuer (Playhouse – 2006) 40) Sigur Rós – () (MCA – 2002) 39) The Streets – A Grand Don't Come for Free (Atlantic – 2004) 38) Ash – Free All Angels – (Infectious – 2001) 37) Clipse – Hell Hath No Fury (Zomba – 2006) 36) MGMT – Oracular Spectacular (Columbia – 2008) 35) Kalabrese – Rumpelzirkus (Muve – 2007) 34) Pete Yorn – musicforthemorningafter (Columbia – 2001) 33) Fennesz – Venice (Touch – 2004) 32) M. Ward – Post-War (Merge – 2006) 31) TV On the Radio – Return to Cookie Mountain (Interscope – 2006) 30) M83 – Dead Cities, Red Seas, & Lost Ghosts (EMI – 2003) 29) The Notwist – Neon Golden (Domino – 2002) 28) Elliott Smith – Figure 8 (Dreamworks – 2000) 27) Sigur Rós – Takk (Geffen – 2005) 26) Junior Boys – So This is Goodbye (Domino – 2006) 25) Jay-Z – The Blueprint (Roc-a-Fella – 2001) 24) Radiohead – Amnesiac (Capitol – 2001) 23) Dangermouse – The Grey Album (Bootleg – 2004) 22) Supergrass – Life on Other Planets (Parlophone – 2002) 21) Idlewild – 100 Broken Windows (Capitol – 2001) 20) LCD Soundsystem – LCD Soundsystem (DFA – 2005) 19) M.I.A. – Arular (XL – 2005) 18) Cannibal Ox – The Cold Vein (Def Jux – 2001) 17) Cut Copy – In Ghost Colours (Interscope – 2008)16) Rufus Wainwright – Poses (Dreamworks – 2001) 15) Four Tet – Rounds (Domino – 2003) 14) Primal Scream – XTRMNTR (Astralwerks – 2000) 13) The Strokes – Room On Fire (RCA – 2003) 12) Jim O'Rourke – Insignificance (Drag City – 2001) 11) Travis – The Invisible Band (Sony – 2001) 10) Arcade Fire – Funeral (Merge – 2004) 9) Radiohead – In Rainbows (XL – 2007) 8) LCD Soundsystem – Sound of Silver (DFA – 2007) 7) Jon Brion – Meaningless (Self-released – 2001) 6) Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights (Matador – 2002) 5) The Strokes – Is This It (RCA – 2001) 4) Beck – Sea Change (Geffen – 2002) 3) Burial – Burial (Hyperdub – 2006) 2) Sigur Rós - Ágætis Byrjun (Fat Cat – 2000) 1) Radiohead – Kid A (Capitol – 2000)wanted to post a consolidated list. i will happily do a megaupload of all the songs i posted too so those are in one place, and they'll all be hq mp3s instead of the scattershot quality i linked to.

[JoeyJoJo 18]

ESPN's Paul Shirley on The Beatles and the Evolution of MusicSomething like that anyway.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

ESPN's Paul Shirley on The Beatles and the Evolution of MusicSomething like that anyway.

guy is retarded

[JoeyJoJo 18]

guy is retarded

That was my initial assessment as well, but what do I know? Maybe because he was a professional athlete, he’s trying to draw a parallel between athletic achievement (where athletes keep getting bigger, stronger, faster) and artistic achievement.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

That was my initial assessment as well, but what do I know? Maybe because he was a professional athlete, he’s trying to draw a parallel between athletic achievement (where athletes keep getting bigger, stronger, faster) and artistic achievement.

you know guy is retarded. it's important to not forget this fact.edit: he's retarded because his argument is completely flawed. it would be fine if he said that he prefers newer music because he can put it in context with his experiences (just look at the top 100 lists in the past few posts and see how valid this is). it would be fine if he said that newer artists have the ability to build on what their predecessors left them to make even better music. but instead he makes the ridiculous argument that music cannot be good if you cannot contextualize it in your experience and that newer music is by definition better because of exposure to earlier, groundbreaking music.just because i've read smasharoo's posts doesn't mean i'm automatically better at lying about being god's gift to LHE, or that he wasn't good at it because i wasn't here to read the earliest of them hot off the press.

[Tactical Bear 3]

That was my initial assessment as well, but what do I know? Maybe because he was a professional athlete, he's trying to draw a parallel between athletic achievement (where athletes keep getting bigger, stronger, faster) and artistic achievement.

He was a bad professional athlete, and he's a significantly worse propagandist. His argument is something like: "I like Guns and Roses more than the Beatles. Therefore: anybody who likes the Beatles more than Guns and Roses is either lying or stupid." It's hilarious that he closes the piece with "MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND" nonsense. He's just begging the question. "People who like the Beatles are brainwashed" is his first premise.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

He was a bad professional athlete

he couldn't have been that bad - THIRTEEN different professional basketball teams paid him to play...

[Tactical Bear 3]

I am listening to Joy Orbison. No, that is not a typo. I feel like maybe mk would be obligated to like these guys, but I don't think I've ever been able to get a feel for what, exactly, "dubstep" really is, so I dunno.