turd ferguson 1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I didnt ignore it, I said it was a good drawing hand, I was in there to hit a flop, maybe be openended. Im going to take that shot everytime. If you want results for a whole year, you are going to have to wait til I graduate since I promised the p's I would. There is a little concept called pot odds and the odds were in my favor so I went with it.There are so many things wrong with your mindset it's scary. Not only that, you are stubborn on top of it. I give up. Good luck at the tables.I don't know which way is the right way on a hand like this. Would you please help me out and tell me what he did wrong and what would you do differently?ThanksRobertcalling a 6x BB raise preflop with ten high maybe? That might not be a good idea, especially when it's 1/6th of your stack. Defending your play by saying ten high isn't a bad hand is probably also not the way to go.Basically, what he said. I felt like I was taking crazy pills last night when I was trying to explain what was wrong with his play. The guy just has no idea. Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 I didnt ignore it, I said it was a good drawing hand, I was in there to hit a flop, maybe be openended. Im going to take that shot everytime. If you want results for a whole year, you are going to have to wait til I graduate since I promised the p's I would. There is a little concept called pot odds and the odds were in my favor so I went with it.There are so many things wrong with your mindset it's scary. Not only that, you are stubborn on top of it. I give up. Good luck at the tables.I don't know which way is the right way on a hand like this. Would you please help me out and tell me what he did wrong and what would you do differently?ThanksRobertcalling a 6x BB raise preflop with ten high maybe? That might not be a good idea, especially when it's 1/6th of your stack. Defending your play by saying ten high isn't a bad hand is probably also not the way to go.Basically, what he said. I felt like I was taking crazy pills last night when I was trying to explain what was wrong with his play. The guy just has no idea.No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards. Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit. Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs. Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with? Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJohnson724 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.Could have j10? j9? 78? 69? A/10? K/10? Q/10? 77? 88? 1010? I am just curious what hand you put him on? Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with?Just a question: Do any of you guys play live regularly. Because alot of it is about reads. I had been playing with the guy for 2-3 hours and thought I had a good read on him. I went with my read, found out I was right and ended up getting turned. Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 Yea but I was going into the hand' date=' thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.[/quote']Could have j10? j9? 78? 69? A/10? K/10? Q/10? 77? 88? 1010? I am just curious what hand you put him on?If he has j9 why would he bet 100 right out into a 5 way pot where he has the nuts on a rainbow flop. If he had a set, the way the guy plays he would have checked and tried to trap someone. I put him on a hand like KQ KJ Link to post Share on other sites
NicksDad1970 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I only play live. I enjoy and do better in NL tourneys. But because most of them are at a time I can't be at the casino I end up playing 4/8 l. If you havn't played that live it is REAL crazy. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJohnson724 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Yea but I was going into the hand' date=' thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.[/quote']Could have j10? j9? 78? 69? A/10? K/10? Q/10? 77? 88? 1010? I am just curious what hand you put him on?If he has j9 why would he bet 100 right out into a 5 way pot where he has the nuts on a rainbow flop. If he had a set' date=' the way the guy plays he would have checked and tried to trap someone. I put him on a hand like KQ KJ[/quote']Lets see. A good player would bet out there if he was betting every pot, he knew he would get callers because he always bluffs right? Oh well. I play a lot of live poker mainly at commerce and bike. Keep calling raises with 10/9, It's a quick way to make a lot of money Link to post Share on other sites
mx957 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with?Just a question: Do any of you guys play live regularly. Because alot of it is about reads. I had been playing with the guy for 2-3 hours and thought I had a good read on him. I went with my read, found out I was right and ended up getting turned.So A) You played the hand Perfect B) You won't take any constructive Critizism about the way you played and finally C) You want a cookie? Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 before the flop KQ against 10 9 is 66 to 33. WHen im getting 5-1 on my money i will take that chance. After flop I am 75 to 25. Link to post Share on other sites
bengy3 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with?Just a question: Do any of you guys play live regularly. Because alot of it is about reads. I had been playing with the guy for 2-3 hours and thought I had a good read on him. I went with my read, found out I was right and ended up getting turned.Your read was that he had a better hand then you and you called? Link to post Share on other sites
bengy3 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with?Just a question: Do any of you guys play live regularly. Because alot of it is about reads. I had been playing with the guy for 2-3 hours and thought I had a good read on him. I went with my read, found out I was right and ended up getting turned.Your read was that he had a better hand than you and you called? Link to post Share on other sites
bengy3 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with?Just a question: Do any of you guys play live regularly. Because alot of it is about reads. I had been playing with the guy for 2-3 hours and thought I had a good read on him. I went with my read, found out I was right and ended up getting turned.Your read was that he had a better hand than you and you called? Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJohnson724 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 So A) You played the hand Perfect B) You won't take any constructive Critizism about the way you played and finally C) You want a cookie?Nice post. How true. I am just saying keep calling raises with 10/9 out of position in 5 way pots, I gurantee it's a quick way to go broke. What are you looking for with 10/9 off in a 5 way pot? Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 So A) You played the hand Perfect B) You won't take any constructive Critizism about the way you played and finally C) You want a cookie?Nice post. How true. I am just saying keep calling raises with 10/9 out of position in 5 way pots, I gurantee it's a quick way to go broke. What are you looking for with 10/9 off in a 5 way pot?10 10 10 LOVE it Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 No I thought I defended myself quite well, I said that the guy was trying to steal pots the whole night and with 30 in the pot and noone raising I figured thats what he was doing. The whole table knew he was a theif, from 3 hands in the past 2 orbits when he was betting the whole way and was called down with mid pair and he never showed his cards.Except he had you beat, and even if he was stealing a blind hand is likely better than 10 9 offsuit.Yea but I was going into the hand, thinking that if I hit the flop I would be ahead of him. I knew he didnt have a big pair by the way he was playing his big pairs.You're only going to hit that flop once in every three times. You will have top pair even less frequently. That being said, he will lead regardless of what comes. Therefore you will have to fold almost every time. Is this really a situation you want to put 1/6th of your stack in with?Just a question: Do any of you guys play live regularly. Because alot of it is about reads. I had been playing with the guy for 2-3 hours and thought I had a good read on him. I went with my read, found out I was right and ended up getting turned.Your read was that he had a better hand than you and you called?nothing like a good triple post newbie. But yea I thought I had a hand that would be able to beat him by not improving that much. If the flop comes K 10 3 obviously im going to fold. I put him on bigger cards and not a pair. I knew my cards were live and was taking a chance with hitting a flop. Link to post Share on other sites
mx957 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 So A) You played the hand Perfect B) You won't take any constructive Critizism about the way you played and finally C) You want a cookie?Nice post. How true. I am just saying keep calling raises with 10/9 out of position in 5 way pots, I gurantee it's a quick way to go broke. What are you looking for with 10/9 off in a 5 way pot?Obviously a bad beat story! LOL! Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJohnson724 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Nice post. How true. I am just saying keep calling raises with 10/9 out of position in 5 way pots, I gurantee it's a quick way to go broke. What are you looking for with 10/9 off in a 5 way pot?10 10 10 LOVE itHAHAHAHA. I was thinking more like a QJ8 Rainbow, that would be nice too. On the 10 10 10 flop, I don't know if KQ will pay him off. But on the QJ8 Flop he may get some action!! Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 before the flop KQ against 10 9 is 66 to 33. WHen im getting 5-1 on my money i will take that chance. After flop I am 75 to 25.That isn't the point. He is going to win the pot every time you don't flop top pair or better. Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 So A) You played the hand Perfect B) You won't take any constructive Critizism about the way you played and finally C) You want a cookie?Nice post. How true. I am just saying keep calling raises with 10/9 out of position in 5 way pots, I gurantee it's a quick way to go broke. What are you looking for with 10/9 off in a 5 way pot?Obviously a bad beat story! LOL!If you would have read the first post, u would have realized that I said that it wasnt a bad beat. Was just venting a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 tight aggresive is not the only way to play winning poker. Just so you know, a skilled player can lag it up and make millions, just look at Alf13.people are just so damn closed minded. Speez live and if I have a good read I make the call everytime. 5 to 1 on your money plus you appear to have position. Why not? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 tight aggresive is not the only way to play winning poker. Just so you know, a skilled player can lag it up and make millions, just look at Alf13.people are just so damn closed minded. Speez live and if I have a good read I make the call everytime. 5 to 1 on your money plus you appear to have position. Why not? Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Author Share Posted January 6, 2006 So A) You played the hand Perfect B) You won't take any constructive Critizism about the way you played and finally C) You want a cookie?Nice post. How true. I am just saying keep calling raises with 10/9 out of position in 5 way pots, I gurantee it's a quick way to go broke. What are you looking for with 10/9 off in a 5 way pot?Obviously a bad beat story! LOL!If you would have read the first post, u would have realized that I said that it wasnt a bad beat. Was just venting a little bit. And for those of you who dont know this is a 2/5 game with a max 200 buy in, where you pay 7 dollars every half hour for a rake. The way to make money in this game is to make hands. You can sit around waiting for premium hands all night, but with the max buy in at 200 and the 2/5 blinds, you can easily get blinded off. You have to pick your spots and take chances. I took my chance and the guy hit a over card on the turn oh well. I didnt get crazy at the table I just said nice hand. There was no way he can fold to a 50 dollar raise when there was already 400 in the pot. Thats why I didnt say it was a bad beat. Link to post Share on other sites
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