just venting a little bit

[SpeedKills 0]

So i take a trip up to Trump tonight to play some 2/5 NL after I bust out of the freeroll. Starts off good I win about 150 the first hand, 4 more hours of playing and im sitting on around 250, 50 up. Getting tired and i tell myself I'm out after the next dealer switch. I play a few hands and I am down to about 180. Get dealt 10 9 offsuit, so I limp. The button makes it 30 to go with about 6 people already calling the 5. There was 2 callers before me and I knew for sure that atleast 1 other would call also. So 150 in the pot before the flop.Flop 10 8 7 all offsuitoriginal raiser bets out 100OR was raising all night and trying to steal pots, so I dont put him on much. It folds to me, I jam for 155. Folds all the way around to OR and he says, I have to call, which yea he did because theres already 400 in the pot and its only 55 more to him to catch something. He turns over KQ and the turn is a K river is a 3. And I lose. Not really mad about how the guy played it, just wish he would have bet 50 on the flop so I could have pushed him off a hand like KQ. I dont think its too bad of a beat, just wanted to vent a little bit. Good night all, and congratulations on the guys that won the Vegas Trip. You better root for the Bears, cause there takin it all.

[turd ferguson 1]

So i take a trip up to Trump tonight to play some 2/5 NL after I bust out of the freeroll. Starts off good I win about 150 the first hand, 4 more hours of playing and im sitting on around 250, 50 up. Getting tired and i tell myself I'm out after the next dealer switch. I play a few hands and I am down to about 180. Get dealt 10 9 offsuit, so I limp. (first mistake) The button makes it 30 to go with about 6 people already calling the 5. There was 2 callers before me and I knew for sure that atleast 1 other would call also. (mistake number two) So 150 in the pot before the flop.Flop 10 8 7 all offsuitoriginal raiser bets out 100OR was raising all night and trying to steal pots, so I dont put him on much. It folds to me, I jam for 155. Folds all the way around to OR and he says, I have to call, which yea he did because theres already 400 in the pot and its only 55 more to him to catch something. He turns over KQ and the turn is a K river is a 3. And I lose. Not really mad about how the guy played it, just wish he would have bet 50 on the flop so I could have pushed him off a hand like KQ. I dont think its too bad of a beat, just wanted to vent a little bit. Good night all, and congratulations on the guys that won the Vegas Trip. You better root for the Bears, cause there takin it all.

You're preflop play is horrendous. You have no reason to vent. Sorry if I come off as a jerk, but that was pretty bad. I realize you got most of your money in as the favorite, but I don't see how you're a consistent winner with that kind of hand selection. My guess is that you are not. P.S. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...17308f2afe60c19

[SpeedKills 0]

why would u give me a link to the bad beats, I didnt say it was too bad of a beat, just said i was venting a little bit. And how is my preflop play horrible. Calling a raise with 5 other people when I have a real good drawing hand? Explain Turd

[Guest Zach6668]

You want something to vent about?Both of these hands occurred within like 5 minutes!Exhibit A: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J. 5 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) J, 7, 9 (2 players) CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls. Turn: (5.66 BB) K (2 players) CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls. River: (13.66 BB) 9 (2 players) CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls. Final Pot: 19.66 BB Exhibit B: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J. 3 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls. Flop: (6.33 SB) Q, Q, J (3 players) BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls. Turn: (7.16 BB) 4 (2 players) Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls. River: (15.16 BB) T (2 players) Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls. Final Pot: 23.16 BB Try to avoid tilting after this.

[turd ferguson 1]

why would u give me a link to the bad beats, I didnt say it was too bad of a beat, just said i was venting a little bit. And how is my preflop play horrible. Calling a raise with 5 other people when I have a real good drawing hand? Explain Turd

10 9 offsuit is not a "real good drawing hand." You should be sending that straight to the muck in almost every scenario in a no-limit ring game.I was just giving you a hard time about the bad beat thing.

[SpeedKills 0]

You want something to vent about?Both of these hands occurred within like 5 minutes!Exhibit A: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J. 5 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) J, 7, 9 (2 players) CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls. Turn: (5.66 BB) K (2 players) CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls. River: (13.66 BB) 9 (2 players) CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls. Final Pot: 19.66 BB Exhibit B: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J. 3 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls. Flop: (6.33 SB) Q, Q, J (3 players) BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls. Turn: (7.16 BB) 4 (2 players) Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls. River: (15.16 BB) T (2 players) Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls. Final Pot: 23.16 BB Try to avoid tilting after this.

you dont tell us in there what the other guy had...

[turd ferguson 1]

You want something to vent about?Both of these hands occurred within like 5 minutes!Exhibit A: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J. 5 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls. Flop: (7.33 SB) J, 7, 9 (2 players) CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls. Turn: (5.66 BB) K (2 players) CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls. River: (13.66 BB) 9 (2 players) CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero calls. Final Pot: 19.66 BB Exhibit B: Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J. 3 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls. Flop: (6.33 SB) Q, Q, J (3 players) BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls. Turn: (7.16 BB) 4 (2 players) Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls. River: (15.16 BB) T (2 players) Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls. Final Pot: 23.16 BB Try to avoid tilting after this.

Did you lose those pots? Results please. Actually, never mind. I don't really care either way.

[borinka99 0]

that's pretty bad zach, but a couple days ago I had about a 6-hand in 5 minutes sequence that was worse, wanted to shoot myself. All to the same guy who was dominated all 6 hands.But why call that raise w/ T9 offsuit? That's NOT a good drawing hand IMO. Especially for $25 more. You usually would have to flop perfect to win and I doubt that there will be a lot of times where the hand you are up against is KQ.

[SpeedKills 0]

why would u give me a link to the bad beats, I didnt say it was too bad of a beat, just said i was venting a little bit. And how is my preflop play horrible. Calling a raise with 5 other people when I have a real good drawing hand? Explain Turd

10 9 offsuit is not a "real good drawing hand." You should be sending that straight to the muck in almost every scenario in a no-limit ring game.I was just giving you a hard time about the bad beat thing.

I actually think 10 9 is not that bad of a hand. I know not to really go crazy with it if I only hit like top pair. But you get a lot of draws with it especially if its suited. I have actually made quite of a lot of my with that hand. And yes I am a winning player and quite consistently, especially in live poker. Over the summer when I can devote my time to strictly playing poker, I was making about 12-15 hundred a week playing 2/5 NL, with a 200 buy in. So I think that does classify me as a winning player. And no hard feelings about the bad beat thread.

[SpeedKills 0]

that's pretty bad zach, but a couple days ago I had about a 6-hand in 5 minutes sequence that was worse, wanted to shoot myself. All to the same guy who was dominated all 6 hands.But why call that raise w/ T9 offsuit? That's NOT a good drawing hand IMO. Especially for $25 more. You usually would have to flop perfect to win and I doubt that there will be a lot of times where the hand you are up against is KQ.

I said I had a good read on the guy and he was trying to steal pots all night. Also there was 5 callers preflop so Im putting 30 in to win 150. I think i'll take those odds.

[InertGrudge 0]

you dont tell us in there what the other guy had...

I think the point is that both times, the other person had quads.I think.Maybe?

[SpeedKills 0]

If the flop comes out 10 2 2 and its bet a 100 into me, I have to fold.

[Guest Zach6668]

That is weird... the results should have been there...Hand 1 - River 9 made villain QUAD 9's - 1 outer.Hand 2 - River 10 gave the villain Queens full, over my Jacks full.

[Guest Zach6668]

you dont tell us in there what the other guy had...

I think the point is that both times, the other person had quads.I think.Maybe?

Just the first one. Second one was just a better boat, but after the quads, and that flop, it as just too much.

[turd ferguson 1]

why would u give me a link to the bad beats, I didnt say it was too bad of a beat, just said i was venting a little bit. And how is my preflop play horrible. Calling a raise with 5 other people when I have a real good drawing hand? Explain Turd

10 9 offsuit is not a "real good drawing hand." You should be sending that straight to the muck in almost every scenario in a no-limit ring game.I was just giving you a hard time about the bad beat thing.

I actually think 10 9 is not that bad of a hand. (you're wrong) I know not to really go crazy with it if I only hit like top pair. But you get a lot of draws with it especially if its suited. (if it's suited, and you can get in cheaply. Not for a 5xbb rasie) I have actually made quite of a lot of my with that hand. (correlation does not equal causation) And yes I am a winning player and quite consistently, especially in live poker. Over the summer when I can devote my time to strictly playing poker, I was making about 12-15 hundred a week playing 2/5 NL, with a 200 buy in. (those results are not sustainable, and that short period of time proves nothing to me) So I think that does classify me as a winning player. And no hard feelings about the bad beat thread.

[Guest Zach6668]

Btw, posting while 3-tabling is -ev unless you are extremely skilled...I am not...

[SpeedKills 0]

why would u give me a link to the bad beats, I didnt say it was too bad of a beat, just said i was venting a little bit. And how is my preflop play horrible. Calling a raise with 5 other people when I have a real good drawing hand? Explain Turd

10 9 offsuit is not a "real good drawing hand." You should be sending that straight to the muck in almost every scenario in a no-limit ring game.I was just giving you a hard time about the bad beat thing.

I actually think 10 9 is not that bad of a hand. (you're wrong) I know not to really go crazy with it if I only hit like top pair. But you get a lot of draws with it especially if its suited. (if it's suited, and you can get in cheaply. Not for a 5xbb rasie) I have actually made quite of a lot of my with that hand. (correlation does not equal causation) And yes I am a winning player and quite consistently, especially in live poker. Over the summer when I can devote my time to strictly playing poker, I was making about 12-15 hundred a week playing 2/5 NL, with a 200 buy in. [b](those results are not sustainable, and that short period of time proves nothing to me)[/b] So I think that does classify me as a winning player. And no hard feelings about the bad beat thread.

3 months of playing winning about 13,000. I'd say thats a pretty good summer job for a college student.

[turd ferguson 1]

why would u give me a link to the bad beats, I didnt say it was too bad of a beat, just said i was venting a little bit. And how is my preflop play horrible. Calling a raise with 5 other people when I have a real good drawing hand? Explain Turd

10 9 offsuit is not a "real good drawing hand." You should be sending that straight to the muck in almost every scenario in a no-limit ring game.I was just giving you a hard time about the bad beat thing.

I actually think 10 9 is not that bad of a hand. (you're wrong) I know not to really go crazy with it if I only hit like top pair. But you get a lot of draws with it especially if its suited. (if it's suited, and you can get in cheaply. Not for a 5xbb rasie) I have actually made quite of a lot of my with that hand. (correlation does not equal causation) And yes I am a winning player and quite consistently, especially in live poker. Over the summer when I can devote my time to strictly playing poker, I was making about 12-15 hundred a week playing 2/5 NL, with a 200 buy in. [b](those results are not sustainable, and that short period of time proves nothing to me)[/b] So I think that does classify me as a winning player. And no hard feelings about the bad beat thread.

3 months of playing winning about 13,000. I'd say thats a pretty good summer job for a college student.

I seriously doubt that those results are sustainable for a year. Just sayin'. Prove me wrong if you are so inclined. I like how you ignored everything I said about your poor pre-flop play with the 10 9 offsuit.

[SpeedKills 0]

I didnt ignore it, I said it was a good drawing hand, I was in there to hit a flop, maybe be openended. Im going to take that shot everytime. If you want results for a whole year, you are going to have to wait til I graduate since I promised the p's I would. There is a little concept called pot odds and the odds were in my favor so I went with it.

[turd ferguson 1]

I didnt ignore it, I said it was a good drawing hand, I was in there to hit a flop, maybe be openended. Im going to take that shot everytime. If you want results for a whole year, you are going to have to wait til I graduate since I promised the p's I would. There is a little concept called pot odds and the odds were in my favor so I went with it.

There are so many things wrong with your mindset it's scary. Not only that, you are stubborn on top of it. I give up. Good luck at the tables.

[kennyg1966 0]

So i take a trip up to Trump tonight to play some 2/5 NL after I bust out of the freeroll. Starts off good I win about 150 the first hand, 4 more hours of playing and im sitting on around 250, 50 up. Getting tired and i tell myself I'm out after the next dealer switch. I play a few hands and I am down to about 180. Get dealt 10 9 offsuit, so I limp. The button makes it 30 to go with about 6 people already calling the 5. There was 2 callers before me and I knew for sure that atleast 1 other would call also. So 150 in the pot before the flop.Flop 10 8 7 all offsuitoriginal raiser bets out 100OR was raising all night and trying to steal pots, so I dont put him on much. It folds to me, I jam for 155. Folds all the way around to OR and he says, I have to call, which yea he did because theres already 400 in the pot and its only 55 more to him to catch something. He turns over KQ and the turn is a K river is a 3. And I lose. Not really mad about how the guy played it, just wish he would have bet 50 on the flop so I could have pushed him off a hand like KQ. I dont think its too bad of a beat, just wanted to vent a little bit. Good night all, and congratulations on the guys that won the Vegas Trip. You better root for the Bears, cause there takin it all.

why are you calling 30 bucks with 9/10 os!

[zedd2005 0]

i had my aces beat by a4. also, i had q7 hrts beaten by 2hrt4os, when board read a345hrtsx. all when the bubble just burst in an mtt. i lost obviously.............

[NicksDad1970 0]

I didnt ignore it, I said it was a good drawing hand, I was in there to hit a flop, maybe be openended. Im going to take that shot everytime. If you want results for a whole year, you are going to have to wait til I graduate since I promised the p's I would. There is a little concept called pot odds and the odds were in my favor so I went with it.

There are so many things wrong with your mindset it's scary. Not only that, you are stubborn on top of it. I give up. Good luck at the tables.

I don't know which way is the right way on a hand like this. Would you please help me out and tell me what he did wrong and what would you do differently?ThanksRobert

[dms26 3]

I didnt ignore it, I said it was a good drawing hand, I was in there to hit a flop, maybe be openended. Im going to take that shot everytime. If you want results for a whole year, you are going to have to wait til I graduate since I promised the p's I would. There is a little concept called pot odds and the odds were in my favor so I went with it.

There are so many things wrong with your mindset it's scary. Not only that, you are stubborn on top of it. I give up. Good luck at the tables.

I don't know which way is the right way on a hand like this. Would you please help me out and tell me what he did wrong and what would you do differently?ThanksRobert

calling a 6x BB raise preflop with ten high maybe? That might not be a good idea, especially when it's 1/6th of your stack. Defending your play by saying ten high isn't a bad hand is probably also not the way to go.

[MikeJohnson724 0]

All I have to say is limping with 10/9 off suit is a great way to go broke in a nl ring game. The could have easily had JACKS, that destroys 2 of your outs...maybe even 5 of them if you feel 2 pair will win you the pot...Anothing thing I would like to point out. Limping in a pot I would assume from early or middle position, with a table where you said this guy has been raising a lot? 9/10 off is NOT a good hand. I gurantee -EV by doing that, so you hit a good flop, probably the best you could have asked for with that hand... Ask yourslef, is it really worth it?