Gene zzz 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This is the real inner meanint of the point of the thread of the play ofthe post of the WAWA: What you lay not if post that proof boys not some pokerism pokeristic pawned..... put your money ere your mouth WAS!WTF? No WDUF Link to post Share on other sites
GhostfaceKillah 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This is the real inner meanint of the point of the thread of the play ofthe post of the WAWA: What you lay not if post that proof boys not some pokerism pokeristic pawned..... put your money ere your mouth WAS! Link to post Share on other sites
21gambit 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 He's 23:1 on the flop, sure. But on the turn, when he calls he's 8:1But based on the river call by cracker, who didn't lay down to a 4, so he definitely wouldn't have bailed if the 5 or K came either; he's calling 1600 to win 5950 (existing pot) + 6888 or 12838 if he hits his 5 or K, so the turn call isn't awful, he's basically getting 8:1 implied odds.Considering his table image, the river bluff probably wasn't a good idea, but that 4 definitely could have been enough of a scare card to get the guy to fold an ace under normal circumstances for all of his chips.Not defending the play, but just saying it wasn't insane from the turn on, he wasn't nearly drawing dead on the turn with those stacks being fairly deep.Uh, yeah, stfu....Along with everyone else who is defending the play. U just look stupid.Hes drunk and busted out of a tourney. Not that that defends. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This is the real inner meanint of the point of the thread of the play ofthe post of the WAWA: What you lay not if post that proof boys not some pokerism pokeristic pawned..... put your money ere your mouth WAS!WTF?Glad I'm not alone Link to post Share on other sites
MrJones 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Well DannyG I like my chops everytime a a top winning tourney player sits at my cash game tables. I can't vouch for the big game I dont know if Daniel wins but I assure you that big stakes cash game players like nothing more than big tourney winners, its a big portion of their income.Gene?? Can you rephrase I didn't really understand it...And wow scruff you truely are retarded getting 8:1 implied odds sure looks good when the guy has less than 1/8th of the call u are about to make. And the river all in was pure genius ererrere i mean idiocy, the turn was bad. If u are going to make a play there u fold. You know what scruff? how can he be scared of a four in a raised pot, that bet is so out of context that he would still call AJ vs a respectable player. Vs DN its more likely he folds because the 4 is a possibility. against decent players he is scared of what? A slowplayed AQ or AK!? I don't think so... Link to post Share on other sites
Gene zzz 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I am hitting the tables and cann't keep up any more have fun and beat who ever .. Link to post Share on other sites
ColeSLaw 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This is the real beef jerky inner meanint of the shake shake shake point of the thread of poopy the play ofthe post of the WAWA: What you boiling point lay not if post that proof boys don't cry not some pokerism pokeristic pawned like chess..... put your money ere your mouth WAS!LMAO Link to post Share on other sites
MrJones 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Not to mention the high possibility that he had either AK or AT cutting the outs down further, hell he might even have TT, and truely have him drawing dead, oh yeah bank on 23 running or QJ running looks really good. lmfao. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I couldn't really tell who the good players were because DN was playing so poorly and the other players were usually hitting pretty hard while DN missed so much. I mean obviously DN was playing stupid, but some of the calls that they made were because of fortunate flops of hitting top pair or better and having DN push his stack to them. With that said, I'm sure you have more knowledge on the players than I do, and I would believe the guy to DN's right was the worst one at the table, still nice to be donated 12k for that! As good as stox is I think he just had a lot of money and wanted to get lucky because he assumed DN didnt have much because he never had much! Also you were talking about trapping a lunatic or whatever, what I was trying to address in the first paragraph was that there was not too much trapping needed because DN was running cold and the rest of the table were hitting. I agree that DN was trying to run over the table in a stupid way, but had the table not been so hot, he wouldn't have been able to drop the money that fast, it was ridiculous how quickly he lost. Link to post Share on other sites
GhostfaceKillah 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Link to post Share on other sites
Gene zzz 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This is the real beef jerky inner meanint of the shake shake shake point of the thread of poopy the play ofthe post of the WAWA: What you boiling point lay not if post that proof boys don't cry not some pokerism pokeristic pawned like chess..... put your money ere your mouth WAS!LMAO close good name for yourself Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Every one knows that you have to respect the game.Sure lots of guys will come down in limit and have a party day, it's fun and good PR.But to blow off 70K after taking the online thing so seriously and personal is a misstake and just plain wrong.DN has lowered himself, his next blog will be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
loxo 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 If anyone can show that what they lay is better then the odds they had layed fromDN I will have Daniel say he is sorry. Also to Jones his paly is like that as you say I knowHonestly, you are by far the biggest idiot in this thread.INEC Link to post Share on other sites
loxo 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 yes im sure that people with thousands of posts on FCP get laid all the time... (dudes dont count, sry)Your'e right...I'm married...not getting laid comes with the territory.Heh, alf, aint that the truth!Not quite married but been engaged for 3 years and together 10.I hear ya. :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Unfortunatly this type of play is a sign of self destructive behavior which could be a result of being knocked out of the tourney after having such high expectation of a positive outcome or it could be any number of things. It's never to early to take inventory of ourself when we do things like this. I wish Daniel luck in the Aussie Millions.only read the first page or so, but thought i'd reput this response, since it was pretty good. the only person who really contributed any value to this thread (not all posts were stupid, but if they were written by, or directed at the OP, i count them worthless since this is a non-issue from the standpoint of "is DN a good player")oh, and lately my opinion of KK has gotten worse and worse, but that comment about the mustard was hilarious. no one can say he is not at least sometimes funny.and Mr Jones - all I can say is you should really take stock of your life, when you spend a significant amount of time on a forum where no one likes you, contributing poor and meaningless opinions, and lying to a bunch of strangers about yourself.having said that, congratulations on winning $100000 in 9 months, your volunteer work in South Africa, and drinking a beer. seriously though - it reflects very negatively on your psychological state that you feel the need to make up and defend such outrageous lies. maybe ask out that girl in math class or something.good luck,daniel Link to post Share on other sites
twistnchase 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 .... just turned 19 ....$100k playing only 9 months ... south africa ...playing cards in my spare time ..Now I understand why the dark continent is in such debt. We really should stop giving aide, if all they do is give it away in poker games. Link to post Share on other sites
twistnchase 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 . I thought the definition of fish was a rich guy who didn't care about his money so he blew it all on bad plays in poker? !!!This fukin' idiot has a point there.Was he calling DN a donk or a fish? I've been reading this thread so long, that I forget. Link to post Share on other sites
Andersun 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 You know you are a chump when:1. Your avatar is a pic of you drinking a beer. It screams, "Look at me, I'm almost old enough to drink!"LmaoThen he throws out "It is a pic of me drinking beer in France"hahahahahI love it. Link to post Share on other sites
Gene zzz 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 If anyone can show that what they lay is better then the odds they had layed fromDN I will have Daniel say he is sorry. Also to Jones his paly is like that as you say I knowHonestly, you are by far the biggest idiot in this thread.INEC Thanks that then puts me above DN for once Link to post Share on other sites
Scruff 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 "Scruff wrote: Â He's 23:1 on the flop, sure. But on the turn, when he calls he's 8:1 Â But based on the river call by cracker, who didn't lay down to a 4, so he definitely wouldn't have bailed if the 5 or K came either; he's calling 1600 to win 5950 (existing pot) + 6888 or 12838 if he hits his 5 or K, so the turn call isn't awful, he's basically getting 8:1 implied odds. Â Considering his table image, the river bluff probably wasn't a good idea, but that 4 definitely could have been enough of a scare card to get the guy to fold an ace under normal circumstances for all of his chips. Â Not defending the play, but just saying it wasn't insane from the turn on, he wasn't nearly drawing dead on the turn with those stacks being fairly deep. Â Uh, yeah, stfu....Along with everyone else who is defending the play. U just look stupid. Â Hes drunk and busted out of a tourney. Not that that defends."Read everything else I wrote. I agree he donked it all off, and as I said he was having fun. All I said was in response to the drawing dead comment that he made a reasonable play on the turn to call, so he wasn't just firing the whole way. He was getting 8:1 implied and he was an 8:1 dog, so it was just a =EV play.I never defended anything else he did strategy wise, just said that he was having fun, and on this particular hand he didn't play it all that bad on the turn, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites
MrJones 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Um, scruff, please stop making a fool out of yourself. You think its a reasonable play to call off a lot of money with implied odds on 5 outs, and it is = ev!? You have 8:1 at BEST. Like I said, what if he has AK, AT, TT, AA, 44, 55, KK, A5, A4. Then you have 2 outs or no outs. Then there is the reverse implied odds of your whole stack if he has one of those hands, and the reverse implied odds of a failed bluff. So his turn was so damn bad, its hard to fathom, since he planned to bluff the river anyways, his IO were 1:1, that is reverse implied odds to implied odds. So really man, you are sounding kind of stupid right now. With that said, I'm sure you have more knowledge on the players than I do, and I would believe the guy to DN's right was the worst one at the table, still nice to be donated 12k for that! As good as stox is I think he just had a lot of money and wanted to get lucky because he assumed DN didnt have much because he never had much!Wrong. Stox is one of the premier online players and plays professionally at pokerroom and ultimate bet.Andersun, gotta give ya props on the France thing, that was funny, haha.And yeah, maybe I should stop spending time on this forum, but when I am just mucking hands, or playing NL poker I like to browse it maybe contribute something, maybe make fun of donkeys like scruff, who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
MrJones 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Oh yeah, implied odds were laying him 4:1 not 8:1 I went back to look at the HH, since 8:1 seemed high. He called $1600 the guy had $6600 in front of him, Link to post Share on other sites
Irridial 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I would like to take this time to thank Mr. Negreanu, he is drawing masses of players to the pokerroom skin now. Â These HH hit the web people might want a piece of the action, soon we might get a 50/100 regular game running again...The post was meant to be humourous, if you can't laugh at one of the top 20 players in the world losing $70k and the top online players licking their lips the whole time, what can you laugh at? Â $10k UTG with K2 off. Â Picked off by QQ. Â It's funny censored man.Wait a minute. You mean Daniel lost some money playing horribly online at a site that he has a financial interest far larger than the money he lost.You immediately state that Daniel is horrible at limit and no limit. Going back to your own statement:-----I would like to take this time to thank Mr. Negreanu, he is drawing masses of players to the pokerroom skin now.-----I think Daniel's a businessman. Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Oh yeah, implied odds were laying him 4:1 not  8:1 I went back to look at the HH, since 8:1 seemed high.  He called $1600 the guy had $6600 in front of him,Mr Jones,Let me be the first to welcome you to this forum.I would also like it if you contributed to the strat forum on NLHE since it seems that you know your stuff.But some advice.....I am also a knowledgable player and a total arrogant prick. I feel as if I am god's gift to cards, and that i can play with anybody in the world.Now...I KNOW that I AM an arrogant Know it all A-hole....but everybody else doesn't...People kinda like me on this forum because I am courteous and not overbearing....YOU have taken to being the exact opposite and it looks like a lack of maturity. Lose the chip and talk to these donkey's like human beings.Grow up dude...you obviously have something to offer this forum, and I for one invite you to do so. Link to post Share on other sites
KTW 0 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 It's sad how baldness can cause such lack of hair too.Now that's funny. Link to post Share on other sites
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