e_dubb 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 alright guys, this is my fisrt post. I visit hear, rad the blogs and the forum posts everyday but i'm just not in to this typing stuff. anywho, i was reading another player's , gavin smith, blog an he has chalenged daniel to a 20K bet for the title of best player from canada. for full details here is the linkhttp://www.gavinlive.com/the blog is right on the homepage!OUT! Link to post Share on other sites
kennyg1966 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 alright guys, this is my fisrt post. I visit hear, rad the blogs and the forum posts everyday but i'm just not in to this typing stuff. anywho, i was reading another player's , gavin smith, blog an he has chalenged daniel to a 20K bet for the title of best player from canada. for full details here is the linkhttp://www.gavinlive.com/the blog is right on the homepage!OUT!20k..are you kidding me...Mishu uses 20k to piss on !!make it 500k and he might consider it !!and learn to spell before you learn to "rad"just kidding welcome to FCP Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 alright guys, this is my fisrt post. I visit hear, rad the blogs and the forum posts everyday but i'm just not in to this typing stuff. anywho, i was reading another player's , gavin smith, blog an he has chalenged daniel to a 20K bet for the title of best player from canada. for full details here is the linkhttp://www.gavinlive.com/the blog is right on the homepage!OUT!I believe Daniel has challenged people in the past to at least 200,ooo dollar matches heads up.Based on 100BB, 20K would get gavin smith a seat at a 100-200 game, not the 500-1000 game that DN is playing currently. I doubt 20K is enough for No Limit at 100-200. Do you see why this is a waste of time for anything other than bragging rights? Link to post Share on other sites
teacher12 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 alright guys, this is my fisrt post. I visit hear, rad the blogs and the forum posts everyday but i'm just not in to this typing stuff. anywho, i was reading another player's , gavin smith, blog an he has chalenged daniel to a 20K bet for the title of best player from canada. for full details here is the linkhttp://www.gavinlive.com/the blog is right on the homepage!OUT!i am no daniel negraneau fan but this guy is an idiot. He might as well flush 20,000 dollars downthe tube well at least 10,000 of it. more money. i heard this guy plays 10-20 limit. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I think DN might take this bet,it just seems like a friendly wager I think the above posters didnt even read the "terms" of the bet by the replies they gave.The 20k probably means very little to DN, not sure what it means to gavin it would seems a very good way to motivate both players, not for the $ but for the bragging rights. Link to post Share on other sites
ChipLeader7 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 To the posters above did you even read the blog post its a little prop bet for tournies not a heads-up challenge. Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Free 20k, sure DN take it. I mean thats nothin to Daniel but maybe he could start a thread where the first poster to post in it get $1k and we could do it for 20 days straight. I'm liking this challenge more and more. Link to post Share on other sites
Redrum 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Smith win more $$ in 2005 than DN. Isn't a bad prop bet at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Binbs 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 You guys need to stop acting like DNs attorneys. It looks like a friendly wager to me. Read the blog first. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 You guys need to stop acting like DNs attorneys. It looks like a friendly wager to me. Read the blog first.I believe I said this in my above post :roll: Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I just got this email from Full Tilt. Full Tilt Lessons, "In Defense of The Call".Gavin Smith writes, in part, "Or, a well-timed call might allow me to pick up a pot with a hand that wouldn't win at showdown."What? How can I call and win a pot that won't win at showdown. Can I scare him off of his hand by calling? Does this sound suspiciously like a JFarrel???I'll post the entire article, if anyone would like. Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 "Now I understand that I will likely play many more events than Daniel will so I propose we add some parameters to the bet, here is my proposal: We bet 10k on money won for the year. We bet 10k on money won at the World Series. We only count events in which we both enter. If you would prefer to use points rather than dollars I will accept that also!"thats what the bet is, its not a heads up challenge dumbass Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 yeah maybe you guys should read it first. oh and for the person that said Gavin won more money, you're probably right but remember Daniel had his worst WS of all time. If Daniel's not running bad then he'll beat gavin outta that 20k in no sweat. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I just got this email from Full Tilt. Full Tilt Lessons, "In Defense of The Call".Gavin Smith writes, in part, "Or, a well-timed call might allow me to pick up a pot with a hand that wouldn't win at showdown."What? How can I call and win a pot that won't win at showdown. Can I scare him off of his hand by calling? Does this sound suspiciously like a JFarrel???I'll post the entire article, if anyone would like.I think he just worded this poorly. Link to post Share on other sites
theredpill99 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 With the call thing, I know what he's talking about I think but he'll still need to bet the river. Anyway, 20K is a joke to Daniel. Why doesn't he just challenge him to a headsup match at FCP for $200K or a series of matches? I'm willing to bet that Gavin probably plays the entire 2006 and never makes more than $100K in winnings. BTW, I never knew he won a WPT championship. It must have been very recent and hasn't been aired yet. Link to post Share on other sites
rookie2619 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Gavin Smith = Yawn..... Link to post Share on other sites
BNH77 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 DN is pretty competitive, he may take the challenge for bragging rights to his home country. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I think it is fun, it is kind of like a last longer bet something to spice up the year, and allow plenty of good natured trash talk. Link to post Share on other sites
Mists 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I just got this email from Full Tilt. Full Tilt Lessons, "In Defense of The Call".Gavin Smith writes, in part, "Or, a well-timed call might allow me to pick up a pot with a hand that wouldn't win at showdown."What? How can I call and win a pot that won't win at showdown. Can I scare him off of his hand by calling? Does this sound suspiciously like a JFarrel???I'll post the entire article, if anyone would like.I think he just worded this poorly.I think he means that if someone is bluffing at the pot, Gavin would make the call. Assuming that the other poor schmuck has something like BPLK, he might respect Gavin's call, giving reasons to believe that he might be beat. Of course, Gavin would have to put out a bet on the river, but the call is what would win him over. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 I just got this email from Full Tilt. Full Tilt Lessons, "In Defense of The Call".Gavin Smith writes, in part, "Or, a well-timed call might allow me to pick up a pot with a hand that wouldn't win at showdown."What? How can I call and win a pot that won't win at showdown. Can I scare him off of his hand by calling? Does this sound suspiciously like a JFarrel???I'll post the entire article, if anyone would like.I think you should actually read the rest of the article yourself so that you figure out what he meant.His example of the J-J versus 7-7 is likely what he was talking about. He calls and then outplays his opponent off J-J post-flop where it would have been hard to do it pre-flop. If they had gone to showdown, 7-7 is usually going to lose to J-J. It isn't really rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites
sloshr 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Actually, you can win a pot with a well timed call. Let's say a player bluffs the river, and you feel he is bluffing, but the player behind you probably has a strong hand. You call with a weak holding like bottom pair and the player behind you folds his top pair, thinking it is not good enough for the overcall. Doesn't happen that often, but it happens.As far as the challenge, it seems like a waste of Daniel's time. I did read the whole post, but it still does not seem like something that would interest Daniel.Also, I have played with Gavin, and he is very good. Obviously he has been lucky to win as much as he has, but so is everyone who wins tournaments. He is also a good guy, so I'm happy to see him succeed. Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I think it is fun, it is kind of like a last longer bet something to spice up the year, and allow plenty of good natured trash talk. Link to post Share on other sites
blakheart 3 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 For you guys who don't know who Gavin Smith is, check out this link.http://www.cardplayer.com/player_of_the_ye...Smith&year=2005He finished 8th in cardplayer of the year rankings last year, so he isn't exactly a chump. Link to post Share on other sites
Talent03 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 DN uses 20k to wipe his ass.50k if hes had chili. Link to post Share on other sites
timbo83 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 that guy is a goose. I could've swore that the minimum for a challenge was 200k. Does anyone think he looks like a clown (or am i in a dream :wink: ) Link to post Share on other sites
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