$50 to $1000 on pstars day 18: 75 hands full of love

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The GoalTo turn $50 in my first Pokerstars deposit into $1000.The RulesI'll play only Limit games, primarily Holdem, though I might mix in some O8 or Stud etc. later on.I won't move up in limits without at least 300BB for the new limit. I will post hands that I win and lose and explain my thinking behind how I played them.I'm too lazy to spellcheck. Deal with it.75 hands full of love.Not much time to get a lot of hands in today, have to get some actual writing done, but I figured I'd crank out 50 hands to have something post. It's funny how you don't think about how many more hands you see 4-tabling most of the time but then you realize you've played 75 in 20 minutes. 77 Actually. People periodically ask for whole session logs from me, so here's all 77. Because of Pstars nutty HH system, they as allways, go backwards from the last hand I played to the first. So seeing my buy in shrink is kind of funny so I figured I'd include where I was in chipstack for each hand to give people an indication of how often I'm below my initial buy in on one or more tables while 4 tabling. Having had 18 winning sessions in a row I don't want people to think it's that easy, because it's not. I could have posted 5 or 6 losing sessions if I'd played less hands and stopped while I was down or if I happened to be down after the number hands I'd decided to play.Oh, I buy in for $15 allways at .25/.50 for refrence.Anyway,The hands:Seat 4: thecandle ($20.35 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9h Ts]thecandle: foldsEasy fold UTG, easy fold on the button. Table 'Aura' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.40 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [2s Ks]twotigers: folds KenDom: folds DestinyBound: folds fedd: folds chechitgn: folds thecandle: folds Easy fold.Table 'Tabora' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Js 3d]thecandle: folds EF.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($15.95 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8h 2c]Psycho_Sun joins the table at seat #10 LatesJ: calls $0.25NumLock: folds Golden_sun: calls $0.25Jero: calls $0.25sugarface: checks thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ts 6c]JonBoy202 leaves the tabledretx leaves the tableJero: calls $0.25thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.40 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Js 6s]dginn: calls $0.25twotigers: folds KenDom: raises $0.25 to $0.50DestinyBound: folds fedd: folds chechitgn: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($19.35 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ts Ks]785n54h4: folds thecandle: calls $0.25jwm53: calls $0.25greentab: calls $0.25GoToBoy: folds free2001: folds mahlon22: calls $0.15thermos: checks KTs easy limp from EP.*** FLOP *** [Ad 7s 7c]mahlon22: checks thermos: checks thecandle: checks jwm53: checks greentab: checksI'd fold to a bet. *** TURN *** [Ad 7s 7c] [Ah]mahlon22: checks thermos: checks thecandle: checks jwm53: checks greentab: checksI'd still fold to a bet. *** RIVER *** [Ad 7s 7c Ah] [2h]mahlon22: checks thermos: checks thecandle: checks jwm53: checks greentab: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***mahlon22: shows [Jd 9s] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)thermos: mucks hand thecandle: shows [Ts Ks] (two pair, Aces and Sevens - King kicker)jwm53: mucks hand greentab: mucks hand mahlon22 said, "nh"thecandle collected $1.25 from potHere too.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12.60 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc As]Salva135: folds chris9327: folds LatesJ: folds NumLock: folds Golden_sun: calls $0.25Jero: calls $0.25thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50crowthorne: folds The Jezus: folds Golden_sun: calls $0.25sugarface joins the table at seat #7 Jero: calls $0.25I raise AK from MP.*** FLOP *** [Ks 4s 7s]The Jezus leaves the tableGolden_sun: bets $0.25Jero: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Golden_sun: raises $0.25 to $0.75thecandle: calls $0.25Top pair, and the nut flush draw, have to raise the flop. Obviously call a three-bet.*** TURN *** [Ks 4s 7s] [9s]Golden_sun: bets $0.50thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1Golden_sun: calls $0.50Betting/raising with the nuts from here on out.*** RIVER *** [Ks 4s 7s 9s] [3c]Golden_sun: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Golden_sun: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Kc As] (a flush, Ace high)Golden_sun: mucks hand thecandle collected $6.10 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $6.35 | Rake $0.25 Board [Ks 4s 7s 9s 3c]Seat 1: Salva135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: chris9327 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: LatesJ folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: NumLock folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: Golden_sun mucked [Js Ts]Qs or 8s would have been a fun river card....Table 'Tabora' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6s 8h]JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12.70 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7d Jd]The Jezus: folds Salva135: folds chris9327: folds LatesJ: raises $0.25 to $0.50NumLock: folds Golden_sun: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3d Qs]roper5678: folds dginn: calls $0.25F_Lindahan: calls $0.25twotigers: folds KenDom: folds DestinyBound: calls $0.25fedd: calls $0.25chechitgn: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [2c Qh]twotigers: folds JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($17.85 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As Jh]thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50jwm53: calls $0.25greentab: calls $0.50GoToBoy: folds joechu: folds free2001: calls $0.40mahlon22: raises $0.25 to $0.75thecandle: calls $0.25jwm53: calls $0.25greentab: calls $0.25free2001: calls $0.25Raise AJ, call the three bet.*** FLOP *** [8d 8h Ac]free2001: checks elvis245 joins the table at seat #8 mahlon22: bets $0.25thecandle: calls $0.25jwm53: calls $0.25greentab: calls $0.25free2001: foldsMeh. *** TURN *** [8d 8h Ac] [8s]mahlon22: checks thecandle: bets $0.50jwm53: calls $0.50greentab: calls $0.50mahlon22: foldsI figure this is a likely split between two of us. If someone has the 8, good luck to them, they'll get an extra bet from me somewhere. *** RIVER *** [8d 8h Ac 8s] [9c]thecandle: bets $0.50jwm53: folds greentab: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [As Jh] (a full house, Eights full of Aces)greentab: shows [4s Ah] (a full house, Eights full of Aces)thecandle collected $3.50 from potgreentab collected $3.50 from potMeh again. Split pots are almost worse than losing sometimes. Table 'Eumaios' Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($11.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [4h 4c]The Jezus: folds Salva135: folds chris9327: raises $0.25 to $0.50LatesJ: folds NumLock: folds crowthorne joins the table at seat #9 Golden_sun: folds Jero: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Pretty passive table. I plan on betting out on any flop that doesn't have an A or a K.*** FLOP *** [4s Jd Td]thecandle: bets $0.25chris9327: folds thecandle collected $1.45 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Especially that one...Table 'Alnath' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($17.85 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [4c Ts]mahlon22: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3h 2h]TomKGB: folds twotigers: folds JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds bigslick_STX: raises $0.25 to $0.50Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($11.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3h Ts]thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8c 9h]Salva135: raises $0.25 to $0.50roper5678: calls $0.50dginn: calls $0.50F_Lindahan: folds twotigers: folds KenDom: folds DestinyBound: calls $0.25fedd: calls $0.50chechitgn: calls $0.40thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($16.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ks Ac]joechu: folds free2001: folds mahlon22: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50greentab: calls $0.50GoToBoy: folds Robshev: calls $0.25Raise AK preflop.*** FLOP *** [As 2h 6d]Robshev: checks jerry-777 leaves the tablethecandle: bets $0.25greentab: calls $0.25Robshev: foldsBet TPTK *** TURN *** [As 2h 6d] [2s]thecandle: bets $0.50greentab: folds Robshev leaves the tablethecandle collected $2.10 from potIt's an easy game sometimes.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($11.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qh 2c]Jero: calls $0.25thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd 5h]Dave327: folds TomKGB: folds twotigers: folds JonBoy202: calls $0.25dretx: folds bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9c Ah]thecandle: folds Easy fold. EASY!!Table 'Eumaios' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($11.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5h 3c]Jero: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #4 is the button Seat 4: thecandle ($16.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7c 2h]Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: calls $0.25mahlon22: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.30 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [4d Jh]HarmonicaMan: folds Dave327: calls $0.25TomKGB: folds twotigers: folds JonBoy202: calls $0.25dretx: folds bigslick_STX: calls $0.25Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($11.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [9s 4c]LatesJ: calls $0.25Jero: raises $0.25 to $0.50thenatedogg: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [4h Qs]Videojamm leaves the tablechechitgn: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($13.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3d 3h]greentab: calls $0.25GoToBoy: folds Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: calls $0.25mahlon22: calls $0.25thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: calls $0.15jerry-777: checks Easy complete.*** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 3c]thecandle: bets $0.25jerry-777: folds jerry-777 is sitting outgreentab: calls $0.25free2001: folds mahlon22: foldsI'm not into slowplaying flopped sets even on passive tables. *** TURN *** [Qh Ad 3c] [2d]thecandle: bets $0.50greentab: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1.50greentab: calls $0.50I'm about 99% sure this is a slowplayed AQ. This table was a huge bastion of FPS. I decide I'm more than sure enough that it's not QQ/AA/45 to cap this.*** RIVER *** [Qh Ad 3c 2d] [8h]thecandle: bets $0.50greentab: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [3d 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)greentab: mucks hand thecandle collected $5.50 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $5.75 | Rake $0.25 Board [Qh Ad 3c 2d 8h]Seat 1: mahlon22 folded on the FlopSeat 2: thermos folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: 785n54h4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: thecandle (small blind) showed [3d 3h] and won ($5.50) with three of a kind, ThreesSeat 5: jerry-777 (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: greentab mucked [Qs As]/shrug. He might consider raising PF with AQs to avoid situations like this. That's not as clever as playing it slow though...Table 'Eumaios' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As Ts]Salva135: folds LatesJ: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.25Robshev: folds The Jezus: checksA lot of people raise here with ATs. I didn't. They're probably right. *** FLOP *** [5s 5d 9c]The Jezus: checks thenatedogg: bets $0.25thecandle: folds Small pot, bad flop, etc. If I raise PF maybe I win this one. /shrug.Table 'Tabora' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.55 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5d 4s]runawayusa: folds HarmonicaMan: folds Dave327: folds TomKGB: folds twotigers: folds JonBoy202: calls $0.25dretx: calls $0.25bigslick_STX: folds Jero: calls $0.15thecandle: checks 45o for a free flop.*** FLOP *** [Kc 3c Ad]Jero: checks thecandle: checks JonBoy202: checks dretx: bets $0.25Jero: calls $0.25thecandle: folds JonBoy202: calls $0.254 outs to the nuts, only getting 6 to 1 to call. Even with imlied odds, not close enough to call.Table 'Alnath' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($13.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8d Kh]jerry-777: folds greentab: calls $0.25GoToBoy: folds Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: folds mahlon22: folds thermos: raises $0.25 to $0.50785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.55 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7s 5h]thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Th Ac]fedd: folds chechitgn: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12.25 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Th 3h]The Jezus: folds thenatedogg has returnedSalva135: folds LatesJ: calls $0.25Jero: folds thecandle: calls $0.15Robshev: checks I complete with two suited cards.*** FLOP *** [2d 9h 4c]thecandle: checks Robshev: checks LatesJ: bets $0.25thecandle: folds Robshev: folds LatesJ collected $0.75 from potLatesJ: doesn't show hand Nothin happening on the flop.Table 'Alnath' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($13.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6d 3h]mahlon22 said, "nh"thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ah 3d]Robshev: folds fedd: folds chechitgn: calls $0.25thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.55 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jh 2h]Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12.25 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5s Kc]thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.55 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8h 9h]bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12.25 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7c 2s]thenatedogg: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($13.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3s Kd]785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [3d 8d]NewPlayr leaves the tableRobshev: folds fedd: calls $0.25KenDom joins the table at seat #7 chechitgn: calls $0.25thecandle: folds EF*********** # 43 **************Table 'Tabora' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($16.20 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6c Ac]dretx: calls $0.25bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: calls $0.25Brent10 is connected Brent10 has returnedrunawayusa: folds Dave327: folds TomKGB: folds Brent10 leaves the tabletwotigers: folds JonBoy202: checksI call in EP with A6s. I'm not thrilled with the lack of limpers, but hey, what can you do. *** FLOP *** [Kc 4h 6d]JonBoy202: checks dretx: bets $0.25WASZYNSKI_10 joins the table at seat #5 thecandle: calls $0.25JonBoy202: foldsMeh. Second pair, backdoor flush draw. Little lose in a pot this tiny, but I'll take one off.*** TURN *** [Kc 4h 6d] [Tc]WASZYNSKI_10 leaves the tabledretx: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50I imagine all the clubs are good for me and aces and 6's so it's a pretty easy call.*** RIVER *** [Kc 4h 6d Tc] [Ah]dretx: checks thecandle: bets $0.50dretx: folds thecandle collected $2.35 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Not sure how you fold here unless you're on a flush draw too.Table 'Alnath' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kc Ad]thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50jerry-777: folds greentab: calls $0.50GoToBoy: folds Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: folds mahlon22: foldsRaise AK pre-flop. *** FLOP *** [5d 2s 8s]thecandle: bets $0.25greentab: calls $0.25Pretty good flop for AK.*** TURN *** [5d 2s 8s] [3s]thecandle: checks greentab: bets $0.50thecandle: folds greentab collected $1.85 from potgreentab: doesn't show hand I'm confident he's beating me and that I have no fold equity. Pretty easy fold.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($12.25 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jc 9h]Jero: calls $0.25thenatedogg: calls $0.25thecandle: folds Robshev: folds xAceMeUpx: folds Salva135: folds chris9327: calls $0.15LatesJ: checksEF...even though J9 is my favorite hand...Table 'Tabora' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($15.85 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs Qc]JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50runawayusa: folds Dave327: folds TomKGB: folds twotigers: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Meh. I got a lot of cards pf and not that much action. Don't bet me wrong, winning blinds is great and all, but it's amazing how much people whine about how loose and full of calling stations the micro-tables are and I win so many blinds raising from EP and MP.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ac Jc]LatesJ: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Robshev: folds xAceMeUpx: calls $0.50Salva135: folds chris9327: calls $0.25Raise AJ pf. Really.*** FLOP *** [6d Jd Js]chris9327: checks thecandle: bets $0.25xAceMeUpx: calls $0.25chris9327: foldsPretty good flop for me. *** TURN *** [6d Jd Js] [9d]thecandle: bets $0.50xAceMeUpx: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $0.50Not a great turn. I have enough outs to call the raise, though, not to mention KJ waits to raise here in this FPS laden game 90% of the time.*** RIVER *** [6d Jd Js 9d] [7s]thecandle: checks xAceMeUpx: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***xAceMeUpx: shows [9c 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)thecandle: mucks hand xAceMeUpx collected $4.85 from pot/shrug. Two outers happen.Table 'Aura' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ah 4h]twotigers: folds NewPlayr: calls $0.25Robshev: raises $0.25 to $0.50fedd: folds chechitgn: calls $0.50thecandle: folds Axs is an easy fold to two cold.Table 'Alnath' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6s 4s]mahlon22: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.35 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Js 9s]twotigers: folds JonBoy202: calls $0.25dretx: folds bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: calls $0.25runawayusa: folds Dave327: calls $0.15TomKGB: checks J9 is my favorite hand. Suited, I'll actually play it. *** FLOP *** [Qh Ts 7s]Dave327: checks TomKGB: checks JonBoy202: checks thecandle: bets $0.25Dave327: calls $0.25TomKGB: folds JonBoy202: foldsI bet out my 900,000 draws. *** TURN *** [Qh Ts 7s] [7h]Dave327: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Dave327: calls $0.50Still have like 15 outs or whatever, plus I gain some fold equity on the river if he's also on a draw.*** RIVER *** [Qh Ts 7s 7h] [4d]Dave327: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Dave327: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: folds Dave327 collected $3.50 from potDave327: doesn't show hand Meh. Sometimes 15 outs just isn't enough.I'd like to think he was calling along with 44 but I wasn't going to pay 8 bits to see.Table 'Tabora' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.35 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7s Kc]TomKGB: folds twotigers: folds JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds bigslick_STX: folds Jero: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As 6d]NumLock is disconnected chris9327: folds LatesJ: folds NumLock has timed out while disconnectedNumLock: folds NumLock is sitting outJero: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Aura' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: thecandle ($15 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jh 6h]Videojamm: calls $0.25twotigers: folds NewPlayr: raises $0.25 to $0.50Robshev: calls $0.50fedd: folds chechitgn: folds thecandle: folds Salva135: calls $0.50roper5678: folds dginn: calls $0.25Videojamm: calls $0.25First hand at this table. I posted then folded with J6s.Table 'Alnath' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8s Td]free2001: calls $0.25mahlon22: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8d 2s]Salva135: folds chris9327: calls $0.25LatesJ: folds NumLock: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.60 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [4d 4c]Dave327: folds TomKGB: checks twotigers: folds JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds bigslick_STX: checks Jero: folds thecandle: calls $0.15runawayusa: checks Easy complete.*** FLOP *** [Ah Ac 5d]thecandle: checks runawayusa: checks TomKGB: checks bigslick_STX: checksGet to see the turn for free. *** TURN *** [Ah Ac 5d] [8d]thecandle: checks runawayusa: checks TomKGB: checks bigslick_STX: checksThe river also. *** RIVER *** [Ah Ac 5d 8d] [2d]thecandle: checks runawayusa: checks TomKGB: checks bigslick_STX: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [4d 4c] (two pair, Aces and Fours)runawayusa: mucks hand TomKGB: shows [5s 4h] (two pair, Aces and Fives)bigslick_STX: mucks hand TomKGB collected $1 from potAlso the showdown. /shrug. A bet might take this down, but at this limit the odds of someone calling with 45 are or a pair of 7s or whatnot are pretty good.Table 'Alnath' Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kh 7c]mberryman has returnedmberryman leaves the tablejoechu: folds free2001: calls $0.25mahlon22: raises $0.25 to $0.50thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: folds Easy fold.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.60 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8c Qs]xAceMeUpx: calls $0.25Salva135: folds chris9327: folds LatesJ: calls $0.25NumLock: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: calls $0.25thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #10 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.85 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8c 6c]runawayusa: folds Dave327: folds papadaddy: folds twotigers: checks papadaddy leaves the tableJonBoy202: calls $0.25dretx: raises $0.25 to $0.50Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Alnath' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($14.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7h 8d]GoToBoy: folds Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: raises $0.25 to $0.50thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($15.10 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jc Th]Robshev: folds xAceMeUpx: calls $0.25Salva135: folds chris9327: checks LatesJ: folds NumLock: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: checksI check in the BB with JT. *** FLOP *** [Ts 4c 8s]thecandle: checks xAceMeUpx: bets $0.25chris9327: calls $0.25thecandle: calls $0.25There's an rgument for raising here, I didn't.*** TURN *** [Ts 4c 8s] [As]thecandle: checks xAceMeUpx: bets $0.50chris9327: folds thecandle: folds xAceMeUpx collected $1.60 from potxAceMeUpx: doesn't show hand Prettty easy fold.Table 'Alnath' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8h 4h]mberryman: calls $0.25GoToBoy: folds Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: folds johnnyrail: folds thermos: folds 785n54h4: folds thecandle: calls $0.15jerry-777: checks I complete with 84s** FLOP *** [Kh 4d Ts]johnnyrail leaves the tablethecandle: checks jerry-777: checks mberryman: bets $0.25thecandle: folds Nothing happening on the flop.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($15.10 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5c Ks]thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($17.85 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Kd 4c]Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Leona' Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($16.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Js Ac]smo2k1: folds ducktrckster: folds thegunner75: folds smo2k1 leaves the tablethecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50VER-TIC: folds thebruce44: folds arn r: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand Again, I ask how anyone can win on these crazy micro tables full of calling stations???!!!Table 'Eumaios' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ah Kc]thenatedogg: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Robshev: folds xAceMeUpx: folds Salva135: folds mack405: folds mack405 leaves the tableLatesJ: folds NumLock: folds Jero: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from potthecandle: doesn't show hand When does skill come into play in poker, at what limit does raising ever cut down the feild, it's crazy!! Crazy I tell you!Seat 4: thecandle ($15 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [4d Jd]jerry-777: folds mberryman: folds GoToBoy: folds Robshev: folds joechu: folds free2001: folds thermos: raises $0.25 to $0.50johnnyrail joins the table at seat #1 785n54h4: raises $0.25 to $0.75thecandle: foldsI swear every time I post a blind in the CO or something it get's raised. EF. Table 'Tabora' Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Qs Qc]billybob2004: calls $0.25Jero: folds thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50runawayusa: folds JonBoy202 said, "nh"Brent10 is disconnected Brent10 has timed out while disconnectedBrent10: folds Brent10 is sitting outDave327: calls $0.50papadaddy: folds alia101: calls $0.50JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds billybob2004: foldsHey action pre-flop with QQ! *** FLOP *** [Kh 7d 4h]thecandle: bets $0.25Dave327: calls $0.25alia101: calls $0.25Meh, can't give a free card to the flush draws even with the overcard out there.*** TURN *** [Kh 7d 4h] [Ts]thecandle: bets $0.50Dave327: calls $0.50alia101: calls $0.50I think I'm ahead.*** RIVER *** [Kh 7d 4h Ts] [Kc]thecandle: checks Dave327: checks alia101: checksI think I'm still ahead but that some funky Kx that was calling along might decide to raise. I might have missed a value bet against a hand like TQ or something, but I think much of the time I'm only called or raised by hands that beat me. *** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Qs Qc] (two pair, Kings and Queens)Dave327: mucks hand alia101: mucks hand thecandle collected $4.35 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $4.35 | Rake $0 Board [Kh 7d 4h Ts Kc]Seat 1: billybob2004 folded before FlopSeat 2: Jero folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: thecandle showed [Qs Qc] and won ($4.35) with two pair, Kings and QueensSeat 4: runawayusa folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: Brent10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: Dave327 mucked [Ad Qh]Seat 7: papadaddy folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: alia101 (button) mucked [Jd 4d]Meh, the guy with the 4 maybe would have called one more.Table 'Leona' Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($16.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6c 5h]Mr.Bojagles: folds Mr.Bojagles leaves the tablexZER0x: folds arn r: folds gmny87: calls $0.25smo2k1: checks ducktrckster: calls $0.25thegunner75: checks thecandle: folds EFTable 'Eumaios' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8d 6d]Jero: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [As 7h]dretx: folds billybob2004: calls $0.25Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Leona' Seat #3 is the button Seat 4: thecandle ($16.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [8d Kd]smo2k1 joins the table at seat #1 Mr.Bojagles: calls $0.25xZER0x: folds arn r: folds gmny87: folds ducktrckster: calls $0.25TC Flopper: folds TC Flopper leaves the tablethecandle: calls $0.15VER-TIC: checks I complete with K8s in the SB.*** FLOP *** [2h Ah Js]thecandle: checks thegunner75 joins the table at seat #3 VER-TIC: checks Mr.Bojagles: bets $0.25ducktrckster: calls $0.25thecandle: folds Easy fold.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 8: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [7c 5c]NumLock: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Tabora' Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 3: thecandle ($14.75 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [6d Jh]JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds billybob2004: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EFTable 'Leona' Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 4: thecandle ($15 in chips) thecandle: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [2c Ad]xZER0x is connected VER-TIC: folds Mr.Bojagles: folds xZER0x: calls $0.25arn r: folds gmny87: folds ducktrckster: calls $0.25TC Flopper: calls $0.15thecandle: checksFirst hand at this table. *** FLOP *** [5h 4h Kc]TC Flopper: checks thecandle: checks xZER0x: checks ducktrckster: checksGutshot where I get to see the turn for free. Nice when that happens.*** TURN *** [5h 4h Kc] [3c]TC Flopper: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50xZER0x: folds ducktrckster: foldsThat too. Missed a riase here. Was probbaly reading a post or something. *** RIVER *** [5h 4h Kc 3c] [3d]TC Flopper: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***TC Flopper: shows [7s 7d] (two pair, Sevens and Threes)thecandle: shows [2c Ad] (a straight, Ace to Five)thecandle collected $3 from potMissed the river raise for value too. /shrug. Nobody's perfect.Table 'Eumaios' Seat #10 is the button Seat 8: thecandle ($15 in chips)*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Jc 2h]LatesJ: folds NumLock: folds Jero: folds thenatedogg: calls $0.25thecandle: checks Robshev: folds xAceMeUpx: calls $0.25Salva135: folds mack405: checks First hand, I pot and check with J2. I ussually try to onbly post inthe CO or wait for the BB, but I'm lazy and wanted to get some hands in quickly.*** FLOP *** [4d 3d Ac]mack405: checks thenatedogg: checks thecandle: checks xAceMeUpx: bets $0.25mack405: folds thenatedogg: folds thecandle: foldsNot enough to call with the gutshot.Table 'Tabora' Seat #5 is the button Seat 3: thecandle ($15 in chips) thecandle: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [5h 2c]alia101: raises $0.25 to $0.50JonBoy202: folds dretx: folds billybob2004: folds Jero: calls $0.50thecandle: folds First hand, post and fold.That's all of em.Ho-hum, another $10 towards the next move up, less than $100 away now.ResultsStarting Bankroll: $190.92Ending Bankroll: $200.67Playtime: 77 handsNet: $~10BB/100: 25 or something silly. 77 hands and all.

[NormanHaupt 0]

hehe thats greatWhat do you do.. say Axs limp in from EP, folds arouund to the button who raises. Do you call?Whats the general rule about calling raises after you bet?

[Smasharoo 0]

Call anything for one more bet to see the flop if you've allready put money in voulentarily, not in the BB

[Pilch8866 0]

Smash, do you ever plan to do a no-limit pokerstars experiment? I ask because I only play no limit, and would like to see your results.

[Smasharoo 0]

Someone asked me that on the last thread.I guess I will at some point, but be forewarned, low limit NL is exceptionally boring to read the way I play it.It's so easy to beat it's silly.

[DiverDown4 0]

no limit holdem cash games, especially low limt ones, are extremely boring, IMO, limit holdems more like a chess game, way more interesting...again, IMO

[TheBob 0]

Someone asked me that on the last thread.I guess I will at some point, but be forewarned, low limit NL is exceptionally boring to read the way I play it.It's so easy to beat it's silly.

Are you reffering to your strategy of only playing pocket pairs and suited aces and just going all in every time you hit a set or a flush? If so, how often do you actually get payed off doing that?

[TheMathProf 0]

Hey, Smash (and any others that care to comment), I had a couple of questions that are probably a little more elementary than your usual question set.

Seat 8: thecandle ($14.50 in chips)  *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to thecandle [Ac Jc]LatesJ: folds  Jero: folds  thenatedogg: folds  thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50Robshev: folds  xAceMeUpx: calls $0.50Salva135: folds  chris9327: calls $0.25Raise AJ pf.  Really.*** FLOP *** [6d Jd Js]chris9327: checks  thecandle: bets $0.25xAceMeUpx: calls $0.25chris9327: foldsPretty good flop for me.*** TURN *** [6d Jd Js] [9d]thecandle: bets $0.50xAceMeUpx: raises $0.50 to $1thecandle: calls $0.50Not a great turn.  I have enough outs to call the raise, though, not to mention KJ waits to raise here in this FPS laden game 90% of the time.*** RIVER *** [6d Jd Js 9d] [7s]thecandle: checks  xAceMeUpx: bets $0.50thecandle: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***xAceMeUpx: shows [9c 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)thecandle: mucks hand  xAceMeUpx collected $4.85 from pot/shrug.  Two outers happen.

I think I know Smash's answer to these, but...(1) On the turn, if a different 9 hit, such as the 9h, do you re-raise the turn when you get raised (without the flush draw on the board)?(2) If so, at what point (if any) do you slow down thinking that he might have a boat?(3) Same as question #2, but this time he has pocket 6's in his hand and flopped the full house. Assume that he would have raised on every card (as he appears to have done with this hand once he hit his boat).Thanks in advance for the replies.

[TheMathProf 0]

Someone asked me that on the last thread.I guess I will at some point, but be forewarned, low limit NL is exceptionally boring to read the way I play it.It's so easy to beat it's silly.

Are you reffering to your strategy of only playing pocket pairs and suited aces and just going all in every time you hit a set or a flush? If so, how often do you actually get payed off doing that?

I think he is referring to that strategy.I haven't tried it with all-ins, but I've found on the microlimit tables that you get paid off quite frequently with large sized raises (25-50xBB).

[Tcchap 0]

Smash,I read your posts often but have to admit that up until now, never really got into your hand histories. I read through all of day 18 and I am hooked. Also, just today I have started looking at my own hand histories. Thanks for putting in the time to post, I really think it is helping my game.

[Guest]

I'm surprised by the number of blinds you picked up raising PF. Any micro table on Stars I've seen has 5 players seeing the flop regardless of what it costs them. I hope to find myself at table like yours so there is even a remote chance of putting a player on a hand.

[jeff_536 3]

The GoalTable 'Alnath' Seat #3 is the button  Seat 4: thecandle ($13.50 in chips)  *** HOLE CARDS ***  Dealt to thecandle [3d 3h]  greentab: calls $0.25  GoToBoy: folds  Robshev: folds  joechu: folds  free2001: calls $0.25  mahlon22: calls $0.25  thermos: folds  785n54h4: folds  thecandle: calls $0.15  jerry-777: checks  Easy complete.  *** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 3c]  thecandle: bets $0.25  jerry-777: folds  jerry-777 is sitting out  greentab: calls $0.25  free2001: folds  mahlon22: folds  I'm not into slowplaying flopped sets even on passive tables.  *** TURN *** [Qh Ad 3c] [2d]  thecandle: bets $0.50  greentab: raises $0.50 to $1  thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1.50  greentab: calls $0.50  I'm about 99% sure this is a slowplayed AQ. This table was a huge bastion of FPS. I decide I'm more than sure enough that it's not QQ/AA/45 to cap this.  *** RIVER *** [Qh Ad 3c 2d] [8h]  thecandle: bets $0.50  greentab: calls $0.50  *** SHOW DOWN ***  thecandle: shows [3d 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)  greentab: mucks hand  thecandle collected $5.50 from pot  *** SUMMARY ***  Total pot $5.75 | Rake $0.25  Board [Qh Ad 3c 2d 8h]  Seat 1: mahlon22 folded on the Flop  Seat 2: thermos folded before Flop (didn't bet)  Seat 3: 785n54h4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)  Seat 4: thecandle (small blind) showed [3d 3h] and won ($5.50) with  three of a kind, Threes  Seat 5: jerry-777 (big blind) folded on the Flop  Seat 6: greentab mucked [Qs As]  /shrug. He might consider raising PF with AQs to avoid situations like this. That's not as clever as playing it slow though...

If he raises as you suggest AQs should, do you call the one bet from the small blind with a baby pair?

[Big_J234 0]

*** RIVER *** [Ks 4s 7s 9s] [3c]Golden_sun: checks thecandle: bets $0.50Golden_sun: calls $0.50*** SHOW DOWN ***thecandle: shows [Kc As] (a flush, Ace high)Golden_sun: mucks hand thecandle collected $6.10 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $6.35 | Rake $0.25 Board [Ks 4s 7s 9s 3c]Seat 1: Salva135 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: chris9327 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: LatesJ folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: NumLock folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: Golden_sun mucked [Js Ts][/b]Qs or 8s would have been a fun river card....One question. Didn't he muck the hand? How come they show it in the summary?

[jeff_536 3]

The summary at PokerStars shows all hands played to showdown. They don't show any hands that were folded.That's the difference...fold or muck.And they only show it when you request a summary of your hands be mailed to you. It's not at the table (unlike Full Tilt, i believe).

[Scott31 0]

Smash, just a few of preflop comments for ya. Your postflop play looks good, with the exception of a borderline value bet here and there. But you commented on it, so no need to talk about it. KTs easy limp from EP. 1. IMO, this hand can be played, but not from early. I might take this one down with a call in late middle, but not EP. 2. ATo--You folded this one. I, admittedly don't remember the position and am too lazy to go back and look, but this is a borderline limp for me in middle, if it's folded all the way around to me, I might throw in a raise occasionally. Many people consider this their cutoff offsuit hand. 3. ATs--Yes, this is one I believe is a raise. I believe Ed Miller advocates raising this hand. That's probably where I got it from. I'll have to check. Comments? I'm especially curious about your reasoning for the KTs one.

[Backler 0]

Table 'Tabora' Seat #8 is the button Seat 3: thecandle ($17.55 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to thecandle [8h 9h] bigslick_STX: folds Jero: folds thecandle: folds EF ------------ You don't like suited connectors? I know position was early, but I wouldn't mind trying to see a cheap flop with this hand. If you could, please let me know why you consider this an easy fold. I love viewpoints :-) Table 'Leona' Seat #5 is the button Seat 4: thecandle ($16.50 in chips) *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to thecandle [Js Ac] smo2k1: folds ducktrckster: folds thegunner75: folds smo2k1 leaves the table thecandle: raises $0.25 to $0.50 VER-TIC: folds thebruce44: folds arn r: folds thecandle collected $0.60 from pot thecandle: doesn't show hand Again, I ask how anyone can win on these crazy micro tables full of calling stations???!!! C'mon man, you know they are out there Anyway, thanks again and keep um coming!

[SabaAba 0]

Smash,What limits do you normally play?I think I play a little looser than you, but just a tad. I would have played that 89s, and a couple more hands. Also, I don't ever see you with a check raise, is that because of the limits? I'll be honest I've never played such small limits before so maybe that doesn't work in those limits.By the way, the person who asked about mucked hands, I believe they show it at all tables if you ask for a hand history. In fact, that's the rule in poker, if someone calls/checks river, you are allowed to ask to see his hand, every B&M casino will allow it as well, just make sure to ask before he mucks it :-)

[jayistheman 0]

Table 'Tabora' Seat #8 is the button  Seat 3: thecandle ($17.55 in chips)  *** HOLE CARDS ***  Dealt to thecandle [8h 9h]  bigslick_STX: folds  Jero: folds  thecandle: folds  EF  ------------ You don't like suited connectors? I know position was early, but I wouldn't mind trying to see a cheap flop with this hand. If you could, please let me know why you consider this an easy fold. I love viewpoints  :-)  

as a NL player, i will often take a cheap flop out of position with this hand simply for deception purpose and implied odds...in limit, the implied odds simply arent there.... and its far too weak to have to call a raise out of position.im sure smash will answer it better though

[711Buddha 0]

appreciate the whole post.

[Randy Reed 0]

Limping with 89s from early position is fine, as long as you're quite sure you'll get alot of limpers behind you. Looking at the the tightness of the hand shown candle might have felt that it wouldn't happen or a raise might run everyone else off and leave him heads up with a drawing hand. I only limp with it on very loose tables, (from EP). I can admit I haven't seen candle play it that I can remember. It's a tad below his spectrum of playable hands unless in the blinds. But he can answer this himself, just my opinion.

[wrto4556 0]

Smash,What limits do you normally play?I think I play a little looser than you, but just a tad. I would have played that 89s, and a couple more hands. Also, I don't ever see you with a check raise, is that because of the limits? I'll be honest I've never played such small limits before so maybe that doesn't work in those limits.By the way, the person who asked about mucked hands, I believe they show it at all tables if you ask for a hand history. In fact, that's the rule in poker, if someone calls/checks river, you are allowed to ask to see his hand, every B&M casino will allow it as well, just make sure to ask before he mucks it :-)

Which hands? He folded all the hands it was correct to fold.

[jeff_536 3]

The GoalTable 'Alnath' Seat #3 is the button  Seat 4: thecandle ($13.50 in chips)  *** HOLE CARDS ***  Dealt to thecandle [3d 3h]  greentab: calls $0.25  GoToBoy: folds  Robshev: folds  joechu: folds  free2001: calls $0.25  mahlon22: calls $0.25  thermos: folds  785n54h4: folds  thecandle: calls $0.15  jerry-777: checks  Easy complete.  *** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 3c]  thecandle: bets $0.25  jerry-777: folds  jerry-777 is sitting out  greentab: calls $0.25  free2001: folds  mahlon22: folds  I'm not into slowplaying flopped sets even on passive tables.  *** TURN *** [Qh Ad 3c] [2d]  thecandle: bets $0.50  greentab: raises $0.50 to $1  thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1.50  greentab: calls $0.50  I'm about 99% sure this is a slowplayed AQ. This table was a huge bastion of FPS. I decide I'm more than sure enough that it's not QQ/AA/45 to cap this.  *** RIVER *** [Qh Ad 3c 2d] [8h]  thecandle: bets $0.50  greentab: calls $0.50  *** SHOW DOWN ***  thecandle: shows [3d 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)  greentab: mucks hand  thecandle collected $5.50 from pot  *** SUMMARY ***  Total pot $5.75 | Rake $0.25  Board [Qh Ad 3c 2d 8h]  Seat 1: mahlon22 folded on the Flop  Seat 2: thermos folded before Flop (didn't bet)  Seat 3: 785n54h4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)  Seat 4: thecandle (small blind) showed [3d 3h] and won ($5.50) with  three of a kind, Threes  Seat 5: jerry-777 (big blind) folded on the Flop  Seat 6: greentab mucked [Qs As]  /shrug. He might consider raising PF with AQs to avoid situations like this. That's not as clever as playing it slow though...

If he raises as you suggest AQs should, do you call the one bet from the small blind with a baby pair?

Hey, wrto...i know this isn't that dissimilar to the debate on yesterday's col. about calling a raise when limping from the SB. Can you answer this question? I like to see a cheap flop with little pairs, but I don't know if it's worth calling a bet...I'm guessing no, but not positive.

[wrto4556 0]

Smash, just a few of preflop comments for ya.  Your postflop play looks good, with the exception of a borderline value bet here and there.  But you commented on it, so no need to talk about it.  KTs easy limp from EP. 1.  IMO, this hand can be played, but not from early.  I might take this one down with a call in late middle, but not EP.  2. ATo--You folded this one.  I, admittedly don't remember the position and am too lazy to go back and look, but this is a borderline limp for me in middle, if it's folded all the way around to me, I might throw in a raise occasionally.    Many people consider this their cutoff offsuit hand.  3. ATs--Yes, this is one I believe is a raise.  I believe Ed Miller advocates raising this hand.  That's probably where I got it from.  I'll have to check.  Comments?  I'm especially curious about your reasoning  for the KTs one.

KTs is a good hand. Loose games you can limp as you will have alot of customer and no raise pre-flop. You can draw to high straights and a high flush, with a K being good enough quite often.ATs is definately a raise...I was shocked to see the limp! :shock: He folded ATo because there was a raise in front of him...PS. Smash, why didn't you raise the JT with TPGK?? Too passive, I tell you. limping ATs and calling with TPGK and folding to the turn bet when an ace comes. If you had raised on the flop, you could have had an easier decision on the turn.

[wrto4556 0]

The GoalTable 'Alnath' Seat #3 is the button  Seat 4: thecandle ($13.50 in chips)  *** HOLE CARDS ***  Dealt to thecandle [3d 3h]  greentab: calls $0.25  GoToBoy: folds  Robshev: folds  joechu: folds  free2001: calls $0.25  mahlon22: calls $0.25  thermos: folds  785n54h4: folds  thecandle: calls $0.15  jerry-777: checks  Easy complete.  *** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 3c]  thecandle: bets $0.25  jerry-777: folds  jerry-777 is sitting out  greentab: calls $0.25  free2001: folds  mahlon22: folds  I'm not into slowplaying flopped sets even on passive tables.  *** TURN *** [Qh Ad 3c] [2d]  thecandle: bets $0.50  greentab: raises $0.50 to $1  thecandle: raises $0.50 to $1.50  greentab: calls $0.50  I'm about 99% sure this is a slowplayed AQ. This table was a huge bastion of FPS. I decide I'm more than sure enough that it's not QQ/AA/45 to cap this.  *** RIVER *** [Qh Ad 3c 2d] [8h]  thecandle: bets $0.50  greentab: calls $0.50  *** SHOW DOWN ***  thecandle: shows [3d 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)  greentab: mucks hand  thecandle collected $5.50 from pot  *** SUMMARY ***  Total pot $5.75 | Rake $0.25  Board [Qh Ad 3c 2d 8h]  Seat 1: mahlon22 folded on the Flop  Seat 2: thermos folded before Flop (didn't bet)  Seat 3: 785n54h4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)  Seat 4: thecandle (small blind) showed [3d 3h] and won ($5.50) with  three of a kind, Threes  Seat 5: jerry-777 (big blind) folded on the Flop  Seat 6: greentab mucked [Qs As]  /shrug. He might consider raising PF with AQs to avoid situations like this. That's not as clever as playing it slow though...

If he raises as you suggest AQs should, do you call the one bet from the small blind with a baby pair?

Hey, wrto...i know this isn't that dissimilar to the debate on yesterday's col. about calling a raise when limping from the SB. Can you answer this question? I like to see a cheap flop with little pairs, but I don't know if it's worth calling a bet...I'm guessing no, but not positive.

Meh...it's situational. If someone raises after one limp it's generally correct to fold. But if like 3+ people limp and someone raises, you are ok to call because the limpers will definately call the extra bet as will the BB most of the time...so you are getting 5-1 to hit a set with implied odds.In this example, had the AQ raised...it could have gone either way. Calling isn't a big mistake. But calling every raise with any pair is.

[Smasharoo 0]

I tend not to play medium suited connectors in early position. It's probably not wrong to play them there, I just don't. I also don't raise with TT or ATs allthough both of those are probably marginaly +EV. Cold calling a riase with ATo is terrrible in any game. Same goes for AJo, KQo, etc. I also tend not to three-bet AQo, which again probably gives up some marginal value pre-flop. I'd probably do all of that if I was playing one table at a time, but by not raising TT and ATs and not three-betting ATs I ussually have clearer post flop decisions. Again, though, I'm probably giving up some value the few times a session those situations come up in exchange for convience of decision making post-flop.Oh and I didn't really have any vulnerable hands where a checkraise would have protected them and I didn't really have anywhere that I thought it would be for value. The big problem with check-raising on passive tables is how often it gets checked around. It's a much bigger error to let that happen than it is to miss a chance to C/R.