official kidpoker vs. dreamclown thread

[PrtyPSux 0]

Im not a big fan of  the way DN keeps leaving..  With that said.DC is a MORON.. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from a mile away.  DN was gonna keep going as long as he was losing, if he happened to take the lead at any point it was obvious he was quitting.   DC SHOULD have quit when he was up 50k.

sooo youre saying DN shouldnt leave when hes ahead but DC should? if dreamclown is gonna sit out and not play someone for their last 5k then that person does not need to extend them any courtesy later on.and im not trying to sound like some huge DN fan thats just the way it is

I guess I worded it wrong. Neither of them should be leaving just whenever they feel like it. Yes it is a cash game, with no set rules but just leaving like that sucks. This is more of a formal match, they should set a time for each match and respect it IMO. As far as DC leaving todays session, I would have based on what DN has been doing...in other worrds I woulda left just to be an asshole, because we all know Daniel was reeeeaally itching to book AT LEAST a break even session.Im just trying to say they should set some ground rules each time they play, that way no one has excuses and no one bitches at the end of the game.on a side note- I dont think that sitting out when your opponent has 5 bb's left is anything immoral or rude. You might be missing out on 5bb's, but some people just dont like playing against a short stack...you have to adjust your whole game, and why do that when you can just play someone else?

[21gambit 0]

Im not a big fan of  the way DN keeps leaving..  With that said.DC is a MORON.. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from a mile away.  DN was gonna keep going as long as he was losing, if he happened to take the lead at any point it was obvious he was quitting.   DC SHOULD have quit when he was up 50k.

The real question is, whats DN gonna do when he goes into the red 100K?Keep playing beyond 4 hours? Try to get to even? Quit? If they keep playing this much, Im sure its going to happen to both of them at some point.

[pokerplayer24 0]

Im not a big fan of  the way DN keeps leaving..  With that said.DC is a MORON.. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from a mile away.  DN was gonna keep going as long as he was losing, if he happened to take the lead at any point it was obvious he was quitting.   DC SHOULD have quit when he was up 50k.

I agree with this. DN should have played out the final 15 min to get to 4 hours then quit whether up or down.With DC he doesnt care about booking a win f0r 50k, he feels he has a huge edge and wants to get in as many hands as possible.

[KTW 0]

Does anyone know why DC won't play redgar3? He has been sitting there with $20k. :roll:

[InertGrudge 0]

Im not a big fan of  the way DN keeps leaving..  With that said.DC is a MORON.. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from a mile away.  DN was gonna keep going as long as he was losing, if he happened to take the lead at any point it was obvious he was quitting.   DC SHOULD have quit when he was up 50k.

I agree with this. DN should have played out the final 15 min to get to 4 hours then quit whether up or down.With DC he doesnt care about booking a win f0r 50k, he feels he has a huge edge and wants to get in as many hands as possible.

Actually, I believe this is incorrect. DN was up as much as 20k (or maybe even more) at some points, and he didn't quit then.I think he's sticking to the original game plan of playing four hours. If he happens to stick it to DC at the same time by finishing up 2 BBs after that time, then I think so be it.I mean, I understand your point. And it is definitely a good one. But one I feel is not entirely accurate.

[Don Giovanni 0]

Im not a big fan of  the way DN keeps leaving..  With that said.DC is a MORON.. Anyone with half a brain could see this coming from a mile away.  DN was gonna keep going as long as he was losing, if he happened to take the lead at any point it was obvious he was quitting.   DC SHOULD have quit when he was up 50k.

sooo youre saying DN shouldnt leave when hes ahead but DC should? if dreamclown is gonna sit out and not play someone for their last 5k then that person does not need to extend them any courtesy later on.and im not trying to sound like some huge DN fan thats just the way it is

I guess I worded it wrong. Neither of them should be leaving just whenever they feel like it. Yes it is a cash game, with no set rules but just leaving like that sucks. This is more of a formal match, they should set a time for each match and respect it IMO. As far as DC leaving todays session, I would have based on what DN has been doing...in other worrds I woulda left just to be an asshole, because we all know Daniel was reeeeaally itching to book AT LEAST a break even session.Im just trying to say they should set some ground rules each time they play, that way no one has excuses and no one bitches at the end of the game.on a side note- I dont think that sitting out when your opponent has 5 bb's left is anything immoral or rude. You might be missing out on 5bb's, but some people just dont like playing against a short stack...you have to adjust your whole game, and why do that when you can just play someone else?

well such is the nature of the internet, people can do whatever they feel like doing. at this point, niether of them are going out of their way to please the other, or make things perfectly fair. sure what DN did was an kinda an ******* move, but they are enemies at war, and enemies arnt nice to each other.its not like they didnt put in a big session. you are right, dreamclown shouldnt have let DN have the chance to leave with a profit, thats his own fault.

[degenrat 0]

they just need to discuss ground rules. DN does it with his challenge matches, i am sure he'd do it with DC too.

[tennis_balls 0]

Gacy's Clown Crew?

[Forrest Crunk 0]

"Im not a big fan of the way DN keeps leaving.. "no offense, but some of you are being babies about this.HE PLAYED ALMOST FOUR HOURS! as far as "etiquette" goes, Dreamclown left himself wide open for how he is being treated now; maybe next time he wants a game with someone who has accomplished a lot more than he has, he will show some respect. all that "fish" talk to someone who has won championships is truly stupid and classless, far more so than getting up and leaving after a couple hours of heads-up play.Dreamclown, all you are is a kid with a bankroll... when it's gone, so are you.

[matthew r 0]

speaking of... so im over at NWP forum... the GCC guy has a record label site in his sig... and their myspace page ishttp://www.myspace.com/dreamclonelisten to this terrible shite man, this has to be dreamclown related... dreamclone... dreamclown... cmon

[tuckermitchell 1]

speaking of...  so im over at NWP forum... the GCC guy has a record label site in his sig... and their myspace page ishttp://www.myspace.com/dreamclonelisten to this terrible censored man, this has to be dreamclown related... dreamclone... dreamclown... cmon

I just threw up a little in my mouth... ROFLMAO...

[PrtyPSux 0]

well such is the nature of the internet' date=' people can do whatever they feel like doing. at this point' date=' niether of them are going out of their way to please the other, or make things perfectly fair. sure what DN did was an kinda an censored move, but they are enemies at war, and enemies arnt nice to each other.its not like they didnt put in a big session. [b'']you are right, dreamclown shouldnt have let DN have the chance to leave with a profit, thats his own fault.[/b]

I just think they should start the session and say "hey im quitting in 3 hrs dishcloth" ... "ok fisssshhh :? "it has nothing to do with pleasing one another, it just puts a stop to what will eventually become a "lets see who can quit while theyre ahead" contest. Since this has become a full blown ego contest, whoever loses WILL look for as many excuses as possible. DN can avoid giving him this excuse by just saying Im gonna quit at 9 or whatever.

[matthew r 0]

speaking of... so im over at NWP forum... the GCC guy has a record label site in his sig... and their myspace page ishttp://www.myspace.com/dreamclonelisten to this terrible censored man, this has to be dreamclown related... dreamclone... dreamclown... cmon

I just threw up a little in my mouth... ROFLMAO...

heh, sorry about that.. but if you're feeling masochistic, check this out (in a similar vein)http://media.putfile.com/Kevin-Federline--...Yall-aint-ready

[DaBruins 0]

that myspace link was just....WOW

[Guest]

I couldn't care less who wins this but why would Dclown think he deserves any respect or favors from kidpoker? From i have read the clown has made a complete ass of himself since this all started.

[CardWarfare 4]

priceless.I wish I could blow this up to poster size, frameit, and put it on my wall, LOL

[VBCardinal 0]

when I went to bed, DN was down 40. I was upset and angry because all I could see was DC hitting some great cards. DN was working his butt off, but DC had changed his style somewhat and with his cards was just killing DN. And . . . . . . DN finishes up slightly. Wow. This is the greatest. DC has got to be royally upset. Way to go DN.

[rogerwilco 0]

No offence, but DNs exit seems kinda weak. I'm not talking about etiquette or anything, I actually thought, that all the trash talk between them was funny (and DN is definately better at it than DC ), but leaving as soon as he is up a very small amount after being down a lot imo gives the impression that he is scared of playing (even if he would have quit anyway at that point no matter how many chips he had).If they continue playing, it seems inevitable that at some point Daniel Negreanu will have to book a losing session, and I don't think, that that would prove anything either way.

[psujohn 0]

I think DN leaving suddenly and without warning is just part of the psychological aspect of the game. DC clearly tries to tilt DN with some of his trash talking and showing bluffs. Why shouldn't DN try to tilt DC by leaving "suddenly". I suspect the timing was a combination of almost 4 hours and up a bit after being down a lot.The net effect is that even if DC doesn't tilt he's repeatedly said "I'm not giving up". If you're DN and feel you have an edge over this guy wouldn't you want him to keep coming back?BTW, does some of what DN is saying to DC remind you of what Barry Greenstein said about Daniel a couple years back. "He's not bad but needs experience." kind of stuff. Seems like it wasn't too long ago that DN was the young kid with a lot of talent but more ego than experience.

[mosheh 0]

i like DN very much but give DC some credit guys! i know him from online play and he is just crushing at HU limit hod'em and not only against weak oponents or scared money but against the bestDC is aware of his pre flop play and he do that in purpose, that's part oh his strategy

[theone 0]

No offence, but DNs exit seems kinda weak. I'm not talking about etiquette or anything, I actually thought, that all the trash talk between them was funny (and DN is definately better at it than DC ), but leaving as soon as he is up a very small amount after being down a lot imo gives the impression that he is scared of playing (even if he would have quit anyway at that point no matter how many chips he had).If they continue playing, it seems inevitable that at some point Daniel Negreanu will have to book a losing session, and I don't think, that that would prove anything either way.

I dont think you guys see the "big Picture" Daniels purpose in all of this is to severely TILT this guy. That way he changes his style to which Daniel will exploit. Daniel is not the "rookie" here. I think you guys are giving him enough credit for what he is doing. Watch and see if Dreamclown doesnt take a huge hit to his bankroll in the next couple times they play. Daniel is mentally stronger....

[mosheh 0]

No offence, but DNs exit seems kinda weak. I'm not talking about etiquette or anything, I actually thought, that all the trash talk between them was funny (and DN is definately better at it than DC ), but leaving as soon as he is up a very small amount after being down a lot imo gives the impression that he is scared of playing (even if he would have quit anyway at that point no matter how many chips he had).If they continue playing, it seems inevitable that at some point Daniel Negreanu will have to book a losing session, and I don't think, that that would prove anything either way.

I dont think you guys see the "big Picture" Daniels purpose in all of this is to severely TILT this guy. That way he changes his style to which Daniel will exploit. Daniel is not the "rookie" here. I think you guys are giving him enough credit for what he is doing. Watch and see if Dreamclown doesnt take a huge hit to his bankroll in the next couple times they play. Daniel is mentally stronger....

your quite right daniel wants to book wins to tilt him (maybe also because that's psychogically good for him in general and in this hu in particular) and CD thinks that's because he wants to look good for his fans and retard the defeat

[theone 0]

No offence, but DNs exit seems kinda weak. I'm not talking about etiquette or anything, I actually thought, that all the trash talk between them was funny (and DN is definately better at it than DC ), but leaving as soon as he is up a very small amount after being down a lot imo gives the impression that he is scared of playing (even if he would have quit anyway at that point no matter how many chips he had).If they continue playing, it seems inevitable that at some point Daniel Negreanu will have to book a losing session, and I don't think, that that would prove anything either way.

I dont think you guys see the "big Picture" Daniels purpose in all of this is to severely TILT this guy. That way he changes his style to which Daniel will exploit. Daniel is not the "rookie" here. I think you guys are giving him enough credit for what he is doing. Watch and see if Dreamclown doesnt take a huge hit to his bankroll in the next couple times they play. Daniel is mentally stronger....

your quite right daniel wants to book wins to tilt him (maybe also because that's psychogically good for him in general and in this hu in particular) and CD thinks that's because he wants to look good for his fans and retard the defeat

I may be wrong but he has booked 4 straight winning sessions....that is pretty strong no matter how small the wins are...

[Dumpsta Pig 0]

speaking of... so im over at NWP forum... the GCC guy has a record label site in his sig... and their myspace page ishttp://www.myspace.com/dreamclonelisten to this terrible censored man, this has to be dreamclown related... dreamclone... dreamclown... cmon

I've been loosely following this thread all along, while also watching many of the HU matches between DN and DC. When I saw this post, I needed to reply.I went to college with Dream/Clone, and Dream is a legit poker player. He has cashed at some big events and can play. He's definitely a better poker player than musicial, but his music isn't terrible.If Dreamclown is in fact Dream of Dream/Clone, it wouldn't shock me, but these limits seem a little higher than I remember him playing back in the day.If someone has a little more information about whether DC is in fact Dream, I'd love to hear it.

[opie 0]

DN vs. DC Strategy question:When DC is on the button (small blind), he ALWAYS raises. Part of DN's edge is that he will fold a bad hand to that raise, and can three bet a good hand. DN can fold for his big blind (one small bet), or play for 2 or 3 small bets.When DN is on the button, he usually raises, but sometimes folds bad hands. DC ALWAYS calls. So DN has 2 options: fold for half a small bet, or play for 2 small bets.QUESTION: Why doesn't DN ever call when on the button. I'm pretty sure DC will ALWAYS raise it to 2 bets, and then DN has the option make it 3? This would give DN a third option when on the button, and a way to get more money in the pot on a good hand. Normally, I wouldn't just call with a top hand, but DC is so predictable - couldn't this help exploit that predictability?Peace,Dave