mrdannyg 274 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 dreamclown and the GCC guys are just pissed since they're so used to being the little pricks that talk a whole bunch of juvenile, meaningless crap and play poker.now they're getting their asses handed to them by DN in poker and even more so in posting juvenile, meaningless trash talk by this forum, they have nothing to be proud of anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
Don Giovanni 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Sometimes you just with it wa s NL:Texas Hold'em $500-$1000 (real money), #1,648,012,934 Table Dreamclown's HE, 29 Dec 2005 10:55 PM ET Seat 3: KidPoker ($106,727.75 in chips) Seat 8: Dreamclown ($93,230.25 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSDreamclown posts blind ($250), KidPoker posts blind ($500).PRE-FLOPDreamclown bets $750, KidPoker calls $500.FLOP [board cards 8H,6H,9H ]KidPoker checks, Dreamclown bets $500, KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $500.TURN [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker bets $2,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker calls $1,000.RIVER [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H,7C ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $1,000.SHOWDOWNKidPoker shows [ 7H,5S ]Dreamclown mucks cards [ AH,8C ]KidPoker wins $13,999. SUMMARYDealer: DreamclownPot: $14,000, (including rake: $1)KidPoker, bets $7,000, collects $13,999, net $6,999Dreamclown, loses $7,000did i read this right? DC doesn't 3-bet the flop?and he only calls the river? does DN have exactly the 7h often enough not to raise here? that's nuts in limit.That was awful.You lose so much value from Kh, Qh, Jh.That play is -EV.no offense but how is it awful that he lost so little with the second nuts in that situation? hes been playing DN for a few days now, i think you should be giving him credit for a good read. he may not be as good as DN but he IS better than most people on this forum at heads up limit holdem, and he knows better than us. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 How long before dreamclowns investers shut him down? Link to post Share on other sites
21gambit 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 117K in 3 nights actually. Just did a bit of math, if DN can keep this win rate of "peanuts", DC will be worth 14.2 Mil a year to him...Not too shabby Link to post Share on other sites
theredpill99 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I think daniel has an edge over him. DN was up most of the match but Dream did make it to about $120 K at one point but DN was at $120K about 4 or 5 times I think. I think DN's edge is small but it's definitely there. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Nemo and Eugene huddle together as the shark approaches Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 i still wanna know why dn left? Not even a good bye...but yeah dream clown is outclassed and its fairly obvious. I actually kinda feel bad for the guy Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Total Hands Played: 2376Result: +73,233.50 After I slowly grind him out for a few hundred thousand I plan on trying some of the legitimate top online players in the world. I understand Neverwin is an excellent player and I'm looking forward to trying him. Patrick Antonious or Erik Sagstrom I wouldn't bother playing yet, as I don't think I'm ready for them. Once I build some confidence online, I'm also going to try some NL against the likes of Spirit Rock, et all.That'll be neat.Erik Sagstrom vs. DN on FCP? To quote Napoleon Dynamite, "It's pretty much my favorite animal." Link to post Share on other sites
dmb41 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 i still wanna know why dn left? Not even a good bye...but yeah dream clown is outclassed and its fairly obvious. I actually kinda feel bad for the guyDN said yesterday that he wouldn't play more than 4 hours in 1 day until he gets used to online HU. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Sometimes you just with it wa s NL:Texas Hold'em $500-$1000 (real money), #1,648,012,934 Table Dreamclown's HE, 29 Dec 2005 10:55 PM ET Seat 3: KidPoker ($106,727.75 in chips) Seat 8: Dreamclown ($93,230.25 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSDreamclown posts blind ($250), KidPoker posts blind ($500).PRE-FLOPDreamclown bets $750, KidPoker calls $500.FLOP [board cards 8H,6H,9H ]KidPoker checks, Dreamclown bets $500, KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $500.TURN [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker bets $2,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker calls $1,000.RIVER [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H,7C ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $1,000.SHOWDOWNKidPoker shows [ 7H,5S ]Dreamclown mucks cards [ AH,8C ]KidPoker wins $13,999. SUMMARYDealer: DreamclownPot: $14,000, (including rake: $1)KidPoker, bets $7,000, collects $13,999, net $6,999Dreamclown, loses $7,000did i read this right? DC doesn't 3-bet the flop?and he only calls the river? does DN have exactly the 7h often enough not to raise here? that's nuts in limit.That was awful.You lose so much value from Kh, Qh, Jh.That play is -EV.no offense but how is it awful that he lost so little with the second nuts in that situation? hes been playing DN for a few days now, i think you should be giving him credit for a good read. he may not be as good as DN but he IS better than most people on this forum at heads up limit holdem, and he knows better than us.no question he is a far better player than me, but doesn't mean every play is right. i was simply saying that DN might play the hand the same way with Kh, Qh, or even less. if that is the case, then DC made a mistake by not raising.also love the agreement from DN:"if he learned 3-betting was a useful tactic"it's amazing - DN CR's the flop all the time, and DC hasn't figured out that 3-betting in position will often be a profitable play, yet he never does it.changing gears = +ev Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Neverwin just sat down Link to post Share on other sites
Adam_g 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 neverwin trying to talk dream into a game Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 no offense but how is it awful that he lost so little with the second nuts in that situation? hes been playing DN for a few days now, i think you should be giving him credit for a good read. he may not be as good as DN but he IS better than most people on this forum at heads up limit holdem, and he knows better than us.It's awful because the 10h pays off a raise on the river, Jh pays off, Qh pays off, Kh pays off, and then everyone says, "Why didn't you raise the river with the A high flush?" "Because there was a one in eight chance he had the 7h, duh." He beats the 7 other flushes that are out there. There's one card that concerns him. IF you have 99 on a 9222X board, you don't raise someone who bets into you? Crazy, you beat everything except the case deuce.If you don't think that's a "missed bet" of sorts, you're being results oriented.There's no doubt that he's a better player than most of this forum, myself included. Doesn't mean he doesn't make bad/incorrect pays and that we can't/shouldn't analyze hands from a better player.He misses bets on a semi-regular basis, from what I've seen. He's good enough to get past that against most of the 500-1k players, not Daniel. That's why if you look at the average pot size won, Daniel's is higher, DC's is lower. Daniel saves bets, DC misses bets. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites
robert f 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Thanks DM for posting the chat. Kinda like the old days. Listening too the radio. I say again thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
KyleStark 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 neverwin trying to talk dream into a gameI completely came in the middle of the convo....why are they talking about accounts being froze up?? Link to post Share on other sites
dmb41 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Bill Fillmaff is on the waiting list to play DC LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 LOL DC wants to see the 70k that neverwin says he has. (He sat with 20k). DC has made 2 excuses so far as to why he doesn't want to play dustin or whatever neverwin's name is.LOL, nw doesn't want to transfer 50k more because he says he has to do it 2500 at a time. He wants DC to just dump him 30k and he'll pay him on UB. DC is saying PR would freeze their accounts for that. Ah, DC says he'll play when neverwin sits with 100k AFTER a fish busts that he's playing. Funny stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Thanks DM for posting the chat. Kinda like the old days. Listening too the radio. I say again thanks.Same to those who posted chip counts. Link to post Share on other sites
blueodum 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I told dreamclown that humility was the way to go - I guess he's chosen humiliation instead.And he is exactly like the Monty Python knight - "It's only a flesh wound!". Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHandLaw 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 oh man, neverwin is given him the gears lol Link to post Share on other sites
matthew r 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Bill Fillmaff is on the waiting list to play DC LOLlol, thats me.. thought it might get a laugh Link to post Share on other sites
deviper 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dc is afraid to play neverwin. Link to post Share on other sites
dmb41 0 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Bill Fillmaff is on the waiting list to play DC LOLlol, thats me.. thought it might get a laughhaha, nice. Link to post Share on other sites
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