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I think Dreamclown has a hard time separating his Ego from his money. I don't think Daniel has much of a problem with this. I've never seen Daniel angry so I think he has great emotional control. This allows him to make good folds. Dream is just chasing and chasing his ego straight to the poor house.

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Again, I think it's funny what DN did, but intentionally unethical, as to stick to DC from their first encounter, which I have stated before.
Etiquette, generally is given to anyone. When someone acts like a snot nosed fucking punk, you get treated like one and there is no reason to extend any futher etiquette to them. On the internet, it may be the norm to act like a SNFP. The Clown started poor etiquette thing when he sat out when Daniel was down to 8K, Daniel returned Proper etiquette by pulling out when he chooses. If The Clown would have extended etiquette to DN, I'm sure there would be some discussion on when the matches would end. Bad etiquette, definately not. Proper Etiquette=Yes.
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Sometimes you just with it wa s NL:Texas Hold'em $500-$1000 (real money), #1,648,012,934 Table Dreamclown's HE, 29 Dec 2005 10:55 PM ET Seat 3: KidPoker ($106,727.75 in chips) Seat 8: Dreamclown ($93,230.25 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSDreamclown posts blind ($250), KidPoker posts blind ($500).PRE-FLOPDreamclown bets $750, KidPoker calls $500.FLOP [board cards 8H,6H,9H ]KidPoker checks, Dreamclown bets $500, KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $500.TURN [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker bets $2,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker calls $1,000.RIVER [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H,7C ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $1,000.SHOWDOWNKidPoker shows [ 7H,5S ]Dreamclown mucks cards [ AH,8C ]KidPoker wins $13,999. SUMMARYDealer: DreamclownPot: $14,000, (including rake: $1)KidPoker, bets $7,000, collects $13,999, net $6,999Dreamclown, loses $7,000
did i read this right? DC doesn't 3-bet the flop?and he only calls the river? does DN have exactly the 7h often enough not to raise here? that's nuts in limit.
That was awful.You lose so much value from Kh, Qh, Jh.That play is -EV.
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I think Dreamclown has a hard time separating his Ego from his money. I don't think Daniel has much of a problem with this. I've never seen Daniel angry so I think he has great emotional control. This allows him to make good folds. Dream is just chasing and chasing his ego straight to the poor house.
you are absolutely right. this is the key
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Sometimes you just with it wa s NL:Texas Hold'em $500-$1000 (real money), #1,648,012,934 Table Dreamclown's HE, 29 Dec 2005 10:55 PM ET Seat 3: KidPoker ($106,727.75 in chips) Seat 8: Dreamclown ($93,230.25 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSDreamclown posts blind ($250), KidPoker posts blind ($500).PRE-FLOPDreamclown bets $750, KidPoker calls $500.FLOP [board cards 8H,6H,9H ]KidPoker checks, Dreamclown bets $500, KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $500.TURN [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker bets $2,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker calls $1,000.RIVER [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H,7C ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $1,000.SHOWDOWNKidPoker shows [ 7H,5S ]Dreamclown mucks cards [ AH,8C ]KidPoker wins $13,999. SUMMARYDealer: DreamclownPot: $14,000, (including rake: $1)KidPoker, bets $7,000, collects $13,999, net $6,999Dreamclown, loses $7,000
did i read this right? DC doesn't 3-bet the flop?and he only calls the river? does DN have exactly the 7h often enough not to raise here? that's nuts in limit.
That was awful.You lose so much value from Kh, Qh, Jh.That play is -EV.
i think the worse play was not 3-betting the flop, but glad i got some agreement.i feel like a cartoon character, because i actually rubbed my eyes and reread the hand history. wtf!
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Sometimes you just with it wa s NL:Texas Hold'em $500-$1000 (real money), #1,648,012,934 Table Dreamclown's HE, 29 Dec 2005 10:55 PM ET Seat 3: KidPoker ($106,727.75 in chips) Seat 8: Dreamclown ($93,230.25 in chips) ANTES/BLINDSDreamclown posts blind ($250), KidPoker posts blind ($500).PRE-FLOPDreamclown bets $750, KidPoker calls $500.FLOP [board cards 8H,6H,9H ]KidPoker checks, Dreamclown bets $500, KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $500.TURN [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker bets $2,000, Dreamclown bets $2,000, KidPoker calls $1,000.RIVER [board cards 8H,6H,9H,5H,7C ]KidPoker bets $1,000, Dreamclown calls $1,000.SHOWDOWNKidPoker shows [ 7H,5S ]Dreamclown mucks cards [ AH,8C ]KidPoker wins $13,999. SUMMARYDealer: DreamclownPot: $14,000, (including rake: $1)KidPoker, bets $7,000, collects $13,999, net $6,999Dreamclown, loses $7,000
did i read this right? DC doesn't 3-bet the flop?and he only calls the river? does DN have exactly the 7h often enough not to raise here? that's nuts in limit.
That was awful.You lose so much value from Kh, Qh, Jh.That play is -EV.
i think the worse play was not 3-betting the flop, but glad i got some agreement.i feel like a cartoon character, because i actually rubbed my eyes and reread the hand history. wtf!
He checkraised the flop and DC called.
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...Honorable mention as dumbest thing you've read on the forum as well? You're right there are no ethics in poker...There is a reason that the term "hit and run" exists, no? Did I just make that one up on my own?
Sorry, the bias against hitting and running is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Personally, I get up whenever I feel like it, and don't have a problem when someone else does. Just now a guy came into a SH handed game I was playing in and 'hit and run' for one hand. It's a little silly to hit and run for $7, but whatever. Maybe he just wanted a 5+.50 SNG entry. I would say you are wrong because ethics=morality. It is not immoral to leave a table. The difference I see in what Daniel was talking about is that it's enlightened self interest to be nice to your fish. You need to cultivate that fish/shark relationship by doing whatever makes them happy.
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