who is this dreamclown?

[Dratj 0]

Is this guy some prominent poker player or something? I'm curious to know who's got the balls and the bankroll to play DN heads up.

[Royal27 0]

I don't know, but I have a feeling that they are going to play again!

[swiftD777 0]

I don't know much, but he is a 23 year-old guy from New York living in Boston. I don't believe he is a prominient player outside of the online world.

[Guest]

my bet is that he is swedish... , you can raise that if you want. i will call.

[No_Neck 0]

i have seen his name, it is like fjdkgshwshka so yea swedish is a safe bet

[bigcoled 1]

my bet is that he is swedish... , you can raise that if you want. i will call.

ALL IN...You call and it's all over, baybee.....

[bigcoled 1]

He is with beautiful swedish nipples, yes?

[Guest]

Ray Dekargani, he posts on the neverwinpoker site. I'm a fan of Daniels but what he (DreamClown) said about playing Daniels short stack made sense. He said he will play Daniel continually since he was "not that good".

[holdemchamp2 0]

a queer....no offense to gays

[swiftD777 0]

He's italian.

[econ_tim 0]

what he (DreamClown) said about playing Daniels short stack made sense.

maybe i didn't hear correctly, but it didn't make sense to meperhaps you could explain it

[No_Neck 0]

Daniel had 8 bets and he said he likes all streets to be playable. I think it is because he is super aggresive and doesn't want to limit how many times he turns over his cards, also you can't fold if you are all in so this plays in to his aggresive nature.

[adammc 0]

He is negating any skill involved with heads up poker by potentially eliminating 2 streets of play when Negreanu finds a hand to ram with to see all five cards. By not being allowed to play 2 streets, it would negate a superior players skill, just as me pushing in pre flop every time in NL hold em that I had a statistically favuorite hand over 50% of hands that could exist. It negates skill completely, and what Dreamclown said actually makes a tonne of sense.

[kennyg1966 0]

Ray Dekargani, he posts on the neverwinpoker site.   I'm a fan of Daniels but what he (DreamClown) said about playing Daniels short stack made sense.  He said he will play Daniel continually since he was "not that good".

i can see if DN was going to sit with 5k or so,,,,but he sat with 30k and won 25k and asked him to reload...DN said take my last 5k and i will consider reloading...Daniel will get him..just a bad run of cards!!!lets see him put 500k where his mouth is!!

[jooka 0]

DN said he was gonna throw 300k on the site(wowzers) in the general chat after they quit. hopefully he does. Would like to see them play some more.

[econ_tim 0]

He is negating any skill involved with heads up poker by potentially eliminating 2 streets of play when Negreanu finds a hand to ram with to see all five cards. By not being allowed to play 2 streets, it would negate a superior players skill, just as me pushing in pre flop every time in NL hold em that I had a statistically favuorite hand over 50% of hands that could exist. It negates skill completely, and what Dreamclown said actually makes a tonne of sense.

This is wrong.Having less than 12BB puts you at a disadvantage because you can't get paid on your good hands. Sure you can see all five cards for cheap, but that doesn't make it +EV.If playing with a short stack was so great, why doesn't everyone at the party $100/$200 tables buy in for $1,000.When I am playing short handed tables that break up and it is down to me and a fish HU, I will play the fish until he is broke.

[steve7stud 0]

Ray Dekargani, he posts on the neverwinpoker site.   I'm a fan of Daniels but what he (DreamClown) said about playing Daniels short stack made sense.  He said he will play Daniel continually since he was "not that good".

Time out! If it is Ray D, Daniel knows him. In fact they are friends. I would be shocked if it was him.Ray is not 23.And for the record, if it Ray, yes he could and would most likely destroy me.I SERIOUSLY doubt that it is Ray.

[adammc 0]

It puts the short stack player at a disadvantage in terms of how much play his stack has. You can't dispute that it would take a way a superior players ability to out play and out maneuver an inferior player can you? All he is saying is that it would take away from his ability to outplay and outmaneuver Negreanu given that play is taken away from the last 2 streets when inevitably they both have a hand and ram it early. It is left to the falling of the cards and not skill.And yes, if I were to buy in at the 100/200 table on party, I would be better off buying in short stacked ramming pre flop and taking away a superior players edge and ability to out play me on ensuing streets. That is to say if I were inferior to them. It's not skillful poker to ram and end up all in on the flop in heads up limit hold em is it? No. So what he is saying is that it is silly to play for 5 BB, given that that is all he can win, and the edge he feels he has is taken away by the size of Negreanu's stack. So he is risking his 72 BB or whatever for 5, where his possible losses is his whole stack, where as Negreanu stands to lose 5. Given a good run of cards it can swing completely around. He wasn't trying to be a dick and say he wouldn't play after he cleaned him out, he made it clear he would. But he feels he has an advantage playing poker against him, so he wanted him to reload. Ramming 5 BB in and taking away play on further streets negates his apparent skill advantage over Negreanu, and he refused to play.I don't blame him. Tinfoilhat sat and cleaned the rest of his money out anyways.

[jimmythang68 0]

It puts the short stack player at a disadvantage in terms of how much play his stack has. You can't dispute that it would take a way a superior players ability to out play and out maneuver an inferior player can you? All he is saying is that it would take away from his ability to outplay and outmaneuver Negreanu given that play is taken away from the last 2 streets when inevitably they both have a hand and ram it early. It is left to the falling of the cards and not skill.And yes' date=' if I were to buy in at the 100/200 table on party, I would be better off buying in short stacked ramming pre flop and taking away a superior players edge and ability to out play me on ensuing streets. That is to say if I were inferior to them. It's not skillful poker to ram and end up all in on the flop in heads up limit hold em is it? No. So what he is saying is that it is silly to play for 5 BB, given that that is all he can win, and the edge he feels he has is taken away by the size of Negreanu's stack. So he is risking his 72 BB or whatever for 5, where his possible losses is his whole stack, where as Negreanu stands to lose 5. Given a good run of cards it can swing completely around. He wasn't trying to be a dick and say he wouldn't play after he cleaned him out, he made it clear he would. But he feels he has an advantage playing poker against him, so he wanted him to reload. Ramming 5 BB in and taking away play on further streets negates his apparent skill advantage over Negreanu, and he refused to play.I don't blame him. Tinfoilhat sat and cleaned the rest of his money out anyways.[/quote']

He was only risking 5bb to win 5bb. If he lost 5 he could quit, or try win it back. I agree with what was said about the ramming and taking away skill, but just think that he wasn't risking his whole stack at that time.

[scottyno 0]

Ray Dekargani, he posts on the neverwinpoker site. I'm a fan of Daniels but what he (DreamClown) said about playing Daniels short stack made sense. He said he will play Daniel continually since he was "not that good".

Time out! If it is Ray D, Daniel knows him. In fact they are friends. I would be shocked if it was him.Ray is not 23.And for the record, if it Ray, yes he could and would most likely destroy me.But I have no way of knowing if it is Ray.

dreamclown is definitely ray d, he has been posting semi-regularly on neverwinpoker recently, I have no idea of his age.link to thread if you are interested:http://www.neverwinpoker.com/phpnuke/html/...ewtopic&t=11262

[scottyno 0]

He is negating any skill involved with heads up poker by potentially eliminating 2 streets of play when Negreanu finds a hand to ram with to see all five cards. By not being allowed to play 2 streets, it would negate a superior players skill, just as me pushing in pre flop every time in NL hold em that I had a statistically favuorite hand over 50% of hands that could exist. It negates skill completely, and what Dreamclown said actually makes a tonne of sense.

This is wrong.Having less than 12BB puts you at a disadvantage because you can't get paid on your good hands. Sure you can see all five cards for cheap, but that doesn't make it +EV.If playing with a short stack was so great, why doesn't everyone at the party $100/$200 tables buy in for $1,000.When I am playing short handed tables that break up and it is down to me and a fish HU, I will play the fish until he is broke.

its +EV for the worse player because there are less decisions that have to be made, so there are less chances for the better player to outplay the worse player.

[Guest]

Dreamclown is a jackass. You never challenge some to a heads up match and then quit as soon as you get the upper hand. That's just being an ass. You got in the game for x amount of dollars then you should play until all those dollars are gone. Daniel just got very unlucky in those games and so far that table doesn't seem to agree with him.

[econ_tim 0]

its +EV for the worse player because there are less decisions that have to be made, so there are less chances for the better player to outplay the worse player.

it can't be +EV for a bad player to buy in with a short stack and play a better player maybe buying in with a short stack will give the worse player a better expectation than buying in with a big stack, but his EV will still be negativea lot of ppl on the NWP site seem to be ignoring that HU matches last more than one hand and that if DN happened to doulbe up, he would keep playing thus losing whatever magical "short stack advantage" he had.i can see why a better player would want a worse player to reload, but i also think a better player should try and take a bad player's entire stack

[scottyno 0]

its +EV for the worse player because there are less decisions that have to be made, so there are less chances for the better player to outplay the worse player.

it can't be +EV for a bad player to buy in with a short stack and play a better player maybe buying in with a short stack will give the worse player a better expectation than buying in with a big stack, but his EV will still be negativea lot of ppl on the NWP site seem to be ignoring that HU matches last more than one hand and that if DN happened to doulbe up, he would keep playing thus losing whatever magical "short stack advantage" he had.i can see why a better player would want a worse player to reload, but i also think a better player should try and take a bad player's entire stack

if I remember correctly Daniel didnt have any more money on the site so he wasnt able to reload. There was no way Dreamclown could win more than the 5k at the time, so he was risking his whole stack in a sense to win 5k, sure he could have left if daniel got up to 15k or so, but the MOST he could win was that 5k, while he had the potential to lose a lot more if he got unlucky.

[scottyno 0]

ok, now this guy is just confusing the hell out of me:http://www.neverwinpoker.com/phpnuke/html/...ewtopic&t=11321I take back any previous knowledge of who he is, except that hes a damn good heads up player