3-betting jts from the sb.

[screech 0]

Just like the title says. Table is tight. Villian is aware of position.FCP 3/6 (10 handed)I'm in the SB with JTs.Preflop:5 fold, villian raisesI usually would just call here. But this table was playing so tight (somewhat weak), that I decided to 3-bet here.Thoughts?

[Sushiman 0]

I think this is -EV or neutral at best without a read. I assume you are leading any flop and not slowing down unless there's sufficient reason?

[MrNiceGuy 0]

Ugh... I generally fold here. 3-betting might be better than calling because it gets you much more fold equity, and for metagame purposes (if you end up showing it down, you might get less respect when you 3-bet big pairs).But in general, why isolate when you have the worst hand and are out of position?

[TheIceman05 0]

Over the last 2275 hands I've played with a SB1-BB3 blind structure, I have defending my Small Blind against a steal a whopping 3.7% of the time. :shock: And I'm losing about .03BB/hand from there.I loathe you, small blind. I loathe you.Ice

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

But in general, why isolate when you have the worst hand and are out of position?

I agree with this sentiment.Get creative in position. You're not losing much folding JTs OOP against a raise. If anything, maybe it'd be better if you called, if you had a read on BB?

[screech 0]

Over the last 2275 hands I've played with a SB1-BB3 blind structure, I have defending my Small Blind against a steal a whopping 3.7% of the time. :shock: And I'm losing about .03BB/hand from there.I loathe you, small blind. I loathe you.Ice

I should have mentioned this is a 1.5/3 blind structure.On Party I'm the same way. I never get to play my sb.

[DrZebra 0]

This is a good play. It costs you one SB to gain probably 10 BB's in table image and you're probably not far behind. I hope you check-raised any flop.

[screech 0]

I think this is -EV or neutral at best without a read. I assume you are leading any flop and not slowing down unless there's sufficient reason?

I'm leading any flop.These guys have been playing tight. Like 2-3 to a flop. Pf aggressor usually wins, etc.The thing is, if I call, I'm rarely calling this flop unless I connect (I'm usually folding if I just have overs). I also find that I have much more FE if I 3-bet pf and lead the flop then if I call the pf and c/r any flop.If this wasn't a steal situation, I'd fold right away. But here, my hand fares pretty well against villains range. I'd say on average I'm a 60-40 dog. But if I 3-bet this pf, I have a much better chance of winning if villian holds 66/A9/QJ, or most non-premium hands that don't connect with this flop.

[TheIceman05 0]

This is a good play. It costs you one SB to gain probably 10 BB's in table image and you're probably not far behind. I hope you check-raised any flop.

I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. But with that sentiment in mind, if we're gonna play, might as well go ahead and put that third bet in there.If anyone's paying attention, they'll likely think you defend too vigorously, which can lead to HUGE pots when you hammer every street with like from the blinds, and somebody calls down with A-hiIce

[screech 0]

This is a good play. It costs you one SB to gain probably 10 BB's in table image and you're probably not far behind. I hope you check-raised any flop.

I planned on leading at any flop?Why would I c/r?

[DrZebra 0]

sw

[Egarim 0]

a little late to put sw drzebra. Remember sarcasm doesn't come through the computer very well ^_-. Anyways, ugly play imo. No value here. Seems more like a "I wanna run all these weak players over! cuz I CAN and I'M BETTER THAN THEM!!" type of play. But that's just my opinion.

[econ_tim 0]

I would rather 3-bet with A9o because of the greater high-card strength.But 3-betting with JTs makes sense because I'd rather play it HU than 3 way OOP. Better read on villain would help. Things like steal attempts, WTSD, AF, etc.

[screech 0]

Seems more like a "I wanna run all these weak players over! cuz I CAN and I'M BETTER THAN THEM!!" type of play.

That's kinda the reason. I get bored. I'm trying to cut back on those types of plays because I find I use them way too much.

I would rather 3-bet with A9o because of the greater high-card strength. But 3-betting with JTs makes sense because I'd rather play it HU than 3 way OOP. Better read on villain would help. Things like steal attempts, WTSD, AF, etc.

Unfortunately I can't get hud to work on FCP. I heard it works on pokerroom, but I'm too lazy to find out how to get it to work on FCP if it's possible. So for now I'm taking the Ice route and going sans PT.The best read I can give you is that this guy was a decent, position aware player. If I had to guess, I'd say he's something like 15/7/1.5.I used to think I'd rather 3-bet a hand like A9 that has SD value. I'm starting to question that logic. With A9, I can c/r most flops, or at least call down if I think my opponent is bluffing. With JTs, it will be harder to raise missed flops. Also, my hand has little SD value against semi-bluffs. I'd rather get away from the hand early if I miss. And as I said earlier, JTs is not that big a dog too most hands, but it is usually an underdog. 3-betting will put me on sort of a level playing field.I don't know if this is the right way to think about it, but I'm still not convinced calling is better.

[Canada 0]

Unfortunately I can't get hud to work on FCP. I heard it works on pokerroom, but I'm too lazy to find out how to get it to work on FCP if it's possible. So for now I'm taking the Ice route and going sans PT

Go to the preferences screen in HUD (under options I think)Select Poker Room from the list on the right and add the HH db

[screech 0]

Unfortunately I can't get hud to work on FCP. I heard it works on pokerroom, but I'm too lazy to find out how to get it to work on FCP if it's possible. So for now I'm taking the Ice route and going sans PT

Go to the preferences screen in HUD (under options I think)Select Poker Room from the list on the right and add the HH db

Thanks. You're a lot better than south park makes you out to be.