All_In 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 any thoughts on how to play this limit?is it a 1/2 SB BB?thx. Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I've never even heard of 2/5 in a limit game. Where do you see this being spread? Are you sure it's not NL? Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Author Share Posted December 11, 2005 I've never even heard of 2/5 in a limit game. Where do you see this being spread? Are you sure it's not NL?brantford charity casino in ontario. Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Why don't they just spread 2/4 like everybody else?I would guess this plays exactly the same as 2/4 limit, except the pot odds are going to be harder to calculate. You would not be able to call some turn raises profitably due to the larger bet to pot sizes, but I guess you can call more often on the flop because of implied odds? I don't think the math is anything you're going to need at that level of play anyway. Just play it straight. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 It's also the standard low limit game at casinorama.The only difference is that you should be more inclined to call with marginal draws on the flop, on account of the fact that your implied odds are bigger. On the other hand, you should be less inclined to call on the turn when you think you're beat (obviously) since the pot is going to be smaller relative to the bet.I'm not sure that the structure itself necessarily favors any one kind of hand (ie: suitedness, connectedness, high cards, pairs, etc) Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 any thoughts on how to play this limit?is it a 1/2 SB BB?thx.Weirdest limit Ive ever seen spread is in Tunica. 7.5/15 w/ 2.5 chips Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 The only difference is that you should be more inclined to call with marginal draws on the flop, on account of the fact that your implied odds are bigger. On the other hand, you should be less inclined to call on the turn when you think you're beat (obviously) since the pot is going to be smaller relative to the bet.These are good.The only other thing I can think of is to play for free cards like a biatch Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Yeah, free cards are also especially valuable.Given how passive a lot of players are, you generally always get them too.This is probably just a property of live games - but people dont like being combative. If you raise, they'll take your word for it, even if they have n early the nuts at the moment, and check it to you if they dont improve.There're lags obviously, though. They're just not incredibly common at rama 2/5. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 free cards is a good place to start. they're not just for flush draws anymore!people will check to a raiser 98% of the time, so feel free to use this plenty.also, a lot of games have no respect for a pre-flop raiser, so you should do it far more often with excellent drawing hands. if you're going to get 6 callers, why not raise JQs UTG? you can easily check/fold to a miss, but you have plenty of equity against the almost random hands you'll be against.brantford often has a few decent players at a table, which actually makes it easier. the key is to watch the players and their patterns. usually players are semi-loose/passive, loose/passive or loose/aggressive, and they stick pretty distinctly to patterns. watch their patterns, play accordingly, and you should have no trouble.having said that, winning isn't necessarily easy. i win only about 50% of my sessions. but it is easy to put yourself in almost exclusively +ev situations. sometimes it's just hard to win 6-way pots. Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 The rake is killer at these limits. I think it's like 10% of the pot, which makes this game marginally beatable if at all in the longrun.90% of your opponents will probably be loose calling stations or Weak Tights. You run into a LAG or maniac once in a while, but they're not going to be very good. Practically any B&M and most casinos are always going to have soft competition, the toughest thing to beat is the rake and tips you're giving away. Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 ...also, a lot of games have no respect for a pre-flop raiser, so you should do it far more often with excellent drawing hands. if you're going to get 6 callers, why not raise JQs UTG? you can easily check/fold to a miss, but you have plenty of equity against the almost random hands you'll be against....this is a sound strategy? not trying to flame, just honestly wondering.what if u will only get about 4 callers? at what point does the play become a losing play?also (for anyone really) if u had a choice irrespective of distance, which place would u play:i) Brantford 2/5ii) Rama 2/5thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
coppedit 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I agree, at 2/4 limit, people will draw out til the end. So you raising with your KK, AA or any other raising hand doesnt mean much. especially ur KK, since most people at this limit will be willing to play any A[x] that they get.Do you guys think that the 3/6 limit is any better, as far as people no drawing out so often? Link to post Share on other sites
coppedit 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I agree, at 2/4 limit, people will draw out til the end. So you raising with your KK, AA or any other raising hand doesnt mean much. especially ur KK, since most people at this limit will be willing to play any A[x] that they get.Do you guys think that the 3/6 limit is any better, as far as people no drawing out so often? Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I agree, at 2/4 limit, people will draw out til the end. So you raising with your KK, AA or any other raising hand doesnt mean much. especially ur KK, since most people at this limit will be willing to play any A[x] that they get.Do you guys think that the 3/6 limit is any better, as far as people no drawing out so often?(sigh) Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 I agree, at 2/4 limit, people will draw out til the end. So you raising with your KK, AA or any other raising hand doesnt mean much. especially ur KK, since most people at this limit will be willing to play any A[x] that they get.Do you guys think that the 3/6 limit is any better, as far as people no drawing out so often?we shouldn't raise big PP? Link to post Share on other sites
coppedit 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Raise PF, but i find that if u r in late position and raise, all early callers who have A[x] will call the extra 2$ raise. In early position, i think that a raise, is a no brainer. In late position, a raise is unlikely to make anyone who has already bet, just fold. It is good to get ur money into the pot while u have odds, but if u got KK, should u be hesitant if an A falls on the board? Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 this is a sound strategy? not trying to flame, just honestly wondering. Â what if u will only get about 4 callers? at what point does the play become a losing play? Â When you get 3bet by a hand that dominates you and it's heads up.But that almost never happens at rama or brantford.Whether it's better to raise in EP or limp depends on how much less likely each player is to call with inferior hands to two bets. If they're only slightly less inclined to call two cold than they are to limp, go ahead and raise.If they're significantly less likely to call two cold, then limp. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 this is a sound strategy? not trying to flame, just honestly wondering. Â what if u will only get about 4 callers? at what point does the play become a losing play? Â When you get 3bet by a hand that dominates you and it's heads up.But that almost never happens at rama or brantford.Whether it's better to raise in EP or limp depends on how much less likely each player is to call with inferior hands to two bets. If they're only slightly less inclined to call two cold than they are to limp, go ahead and raise.If they're significantly less likely to call two cold, then limp.abba brings up another good point:3-betting.they will almost never do it, and you should.if you are probably in a situation with two overcards to a pair, or a medium/high pair to overcards, 3-bet him! he'll basically tell you after the flop whether he is still strong if you've 3-bet behind him, so 3-betting hugely increases post-flop playability.also, other players will almost never 3-bet, especially older folks. unless you notice someone playing decently, or absolutely crazy, his 3-bet probably indicates strength.i just like raising pre-flop a lot at these tables, especially in late position. it has a lot of benefits. Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Raise PF, but i find that if u r in late position and raise, all early callers who have A[x] will call the extra 2$ raise.  In early position, i think that a  raise, is a no brainer. In late position, a raise is unlikely to make anyone who has already bet, just fold. It is good to get ur money into the pot while u have odds, but if u got KK, should u be hesitant if an A falls on the board?I think you'll eventually realize why this thinking is wrong and for your sake you better hope you do, otherwise your going to lose a lot of money.Raising with the best hand pre-flop seems pretty fundamental to me, why would you not want to put more money in the pot with the best hand? If an Ace hits the flop in a 6 or 7 way pot, you just check and take your free card or fold the flop if somebody bets, not all that difficult really. Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 any thoughts on how to play this limit?is it a 1/2 SB BB?thx.Weirdest limit Ive ever seen spread is in Tunica. 7.5/15 w/ 2.5 chipsHey they copied off the pink game at the Trop. It's an awesome game. Only $2.5 chips are allowed, so it's a 3/6 chip structure with 12 chips if you want to raise. This means there is a mountain of chips in the middle of the table every hand and it generates action like you would not believe. Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I agree, at 2/4 limit, people will draw out til the end. So you raising with your KK, AA or any other raising hand doesnt mean much. especially ur KK, since most people at this limit will be willing to play any A[x] that they get.Do you guys think that the 3/6 limit is any better, as far as people no drawing out so often?(sigh)So much to learn so little desire to teach... :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I agree, at 2/4 limit, people will draw out til the end. So you raising with your KK, AA or any other raising hand doesnt mean much. especially ur KK, since most people at this limit will be willing to play any A[x] that they get.Do you guys think that the 3/6 limit is any better, as far as people no drawing out so often?(sigh)So much to learn so little desire to teach... :wink:I never win with kings.sw Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 this is a sound strategy? not trying to flame, just honestly wondering. what if u will only get about 4 callers? at what point does the play become a losing play?When you get 3bet by a hand that dominates you and it's heads up.But that almost never happens at rama or brantford.ive played both these games, but only drunk. be prepared for some of the most hilarious idiocy of your life. Link to post Share on other sites
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