All_In 0 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 niagara (are there 2 casinos there?) or brantford.thinking of playing any 2/4 games if avail.would $100 be good enough to sit with?thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 here goes...brantford - not bad. i enjoy it there. games are loose, but not absolutely crazy. nice waiting area and playing area.lowest limits are 2/5 limit, and $100 buy-in should be fine.fallsview niagara - very ritzy, very nice. lowest limits are 6/12 limit and 5/5 no limit. $100 is not enough to play there.niagara - never been there. they do have 1/2 no limit. they also have 2/4 and 3/6, though i don't know if its limit or no limit. the 1/2 no limit game is juicy, but i believe the session fee is $10/hour, which is ridiculous and almost unbeatable. $100 is the buy-in, but only if you're looking for entertainment, since the session fee is very high.so i'd suggest brantford.good luck,daniel Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 here goes...brantford - not bad. i enjoy it there. games are loose, but not absolutely crazy. nice waiting area and playing area.lowest limits are 2/5 limit, and $100 buy-in should be fine.So maybe 3/6 but not 2/4? would 100 be enough for a 3/6 game?fallsview niagara - very ritzy, very nice. lowest limits are 6/12 limit and 5/5 no limit. $100 is not enough to play there.What would you sit with at the 5/5NL game?niagara - never been there. they do have 1/2 no limit. they also have 2/4 and 3/6, though i don't know if its limit or no limit. the 1/2 no limit game is juicy, but i believe the session fee is $10/hour, which is ridiculous and almost unbeatable. $100 is the buy-in, but only if you're looking for entertainment, since the session fee is very high.So i guess don't go because of rake?What are the others like wrt rake?Thanks!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 here goes...brantford - not bad. i enjoy it there. games are loose, but not absolutely crazy. nice waiting area and playing area.lowest limits are 2/5 limit, and $100 buy-in should be fine.So maybe 3/6 but not 2/4? would 100 be enough for a 3/6 game?fallsview niagara - very ritzy, very nice. lowest limits are 6/12 limit and 5/5 no limit. $100 is not enough to play there.What would you sit with at the 5/5NL game?niagara - never been there. they do have 1/2 no limit. they also have 2/4 and 3/6, though i don't know if its limit or no limit. the 1/2 no limit game is juicy, but i believe the session fee is $10/hour, which is ridiculous and almost unbeatable. $100 is the buy-in, but only if you're looking for entertainment, since the session fee is very high.So i guess don't go because of rake?What are the others like wrt rake?Thanks!!!!!brantford and rama have 2/5, 5/10, 10/20 and 20/40. 2/5 is a pretty fun game since it allows you to play more hands, given that you'll likely be able to play the later rounds better than the average person at the table.for 5/5 NL i think 500 is standard. i don't really play NL though.there is no rake though for the 1/2 at niagara - the session fee is in place of a rake. and yes, don't go because of it.the others all have the same rake structure. i believe its 10% up to $5. not wonderful, but at least beatable. Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 brantford and rama have 2/5, 5/10, 10/20 and 20/40. 2/5 is a pretty fun game since it allows you to play more hands, given that you'll likely be able to play the later rounds better than the average person at the table.i tried brantford for the first time a few months ago.first time at a b&m poker place too.i played 2/5seemed like there was no way to bluff anyone out of a pot, or thin the field.there were always so many to a flop.and they were crazy! ie a flop of 992, about 6 people in, i throw out a bet and all call! is that normal? how can u tell if there's collusion? is collusion a big thing to worry about at brantford? Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 brantford and rama have 2/5, 5/10, 10/20 and 20/40. Â 2/5 is a pretty fun game since it allows you to play more hands, given that you'll likely be able to play the later rounds better than the average person at the table.i tried brantford for the first time a few months ago.first time at a b&m poker place too.i played 2/5seemed like there was no way to bluff anyone out of a pot, or thin the field.there were always so many to a flop.and they were crazy! ie a flop of 992, about 6 people in, i throw out a bet and all call! is that normal? how can u tell if there's collusion? is collusion a big thing to worry about at brantford?you are correct, there is almost no way to bluff or thin the field. you should expect multiple callers on any bet. it does change how you play, but clearly it's much more profitable.collusion is not a big thing to worry about. as a segue though, for any B&M game at low levels, read up on "implicit collusion."personally, i really enjoy playing it stupidly loose/passive games like that, where pre-flop raises have 4-5 callers, and if there is another semi-aggressive player, you can easily have 6-way capped hands. in other rounds you will almost always have one bet called, and many players will call any amount on the flop.you just have to push small edges real hard, and there's a lot of small edges, and make sure to get away from hands once you can't win.i actually prefer brantford, since the games are a little tighter[/] than most other B&M low-limit games. think about that!daniel Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 you are correct, there is almost no way to bluff or thin the field. you should expect multiple callers on any bet. it does change how you play, but clearly it's much more profitable.what do u do differently? way tighter in early position?personally, i really enjoy playing it stupidly loose/passive games like that, where pre-flop raises have 4-5 callers, and if there is another semi-aggressive player, you can easily have 6-way capped hands. in other rounds you will almost always have one bet called, and many players will call any amount on the flop.you just have to push small edges real hard, and there's a lot of small edges, and make sure to get away from hands once you can't win.i actually prefer brantford, since the games are a little tighter[/] than most other B&M low-limit games. think about that!daniel tighter??? wow!so there's no 2/4 around ontario? Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 you are correct, there is almost no way to bluff or thin the field. you should expect multiple callers on any bet. it does change how you play, but clearly it's much more profitable.what do u do differently? way tighter in early position?personally, i really enjoy playing it stupidly loose/passive games like that, where pre-flop raises have 4-5 callers, and if there is another semi-aggressive player, you can easily have 6-way capped hands. in other rounds you will almost always have one bet called, and many players will call any amount on the flop.you just have to push small edges real hard, and there's a lot of small edges, and make sure to get away from hands once you can't win.i actually prefer brantford, since the games are a little tighter[/] than most other B&M low-limit games. think about that!daniel tighter??? wow!so there's no 2/4 around ontario? possibly at niagara, but i'm not sure.position actually takes on less importance in some ways, since it is almost never raised pre-flop. you can play a lot more hands, but i don't know if i can give you much more detail on strategy.there is a guy with a great site on how to beat crazy games like that. i forget it, but hopefully someone can post it here. the guy had an Indian name I believe? Link to post Share on other sites
Dormie 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 brampton to niagara is 1 hour drivetoronto to niagara is 1+1/2 hour1/2 no limit charges $5 per 30 minutes= $10/hour time chargepretty steep when the casino gets $100/hour/tableeconomics 101 supports playing on line over live casino playor a home game with no rake Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 11, 2005 Author Share Posted December 11, 2005 brampton to niagara is 1 hour drivetoronto to niagara is 1+1/2 hour1/2 no limit charges $5 per 30 minutes= $10/hour time chargepretty steep when the casino gets $100/hour/tableeconomics 101 supports  playing  on line over live casino playor a home game with no rakei do play online, but sometimes u just wanna play against live people.don't u find that it's more fun live because u can see actual physical reactions, etc? Link to post Share on other sites
Dormie 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 live games are more funbut to go to niagarait cost me $20 gas (or share 1/2 with a friend)and $50 in time charge/rakei'm ahead in winnings,but it not worth the travel timeand hidden costs to partakethey should allow poker at the woodbine race trackfor the gta the place would be over runall the bestbtwif no one has ever told youyou've got a dog facei just want to be frank about this Link to post Share on other sites
All_In 0 Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 live games are more funbut to go to niagarait cost me $20 gas (or share 1/2 with a friend)and $50 in time charge/rakei'm ahead in winnings,but it not worth the travel timeand hidden costs to partakethey should allow poker at the woodbine race trackfor the gta  the place would be over runall the bestbtwif no one has ever told youyou've  got a dog facei just want to be frank about thisidiots at woodbine for not having ANY poker so far...no excuses.i never really factored in the hidden costs...u no lika my face? Link to post Share on other sites
hawk99 0 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Fallsview has a 3-6 table on weekends now. And hasn't Woodbine been rumoured to open up table games for awhile now? Link to post Share on other sites
snickers99 0 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 FYI, Casino Niagara does have 2/4 limit and 3/6 when there's a demand. If you have no problem crossing the border, Seneca in Niagara Falls on the US side spreads many different NL games (and 7 card Stud, 3/6, 5/10 limit, and (from what I hear) Omaha on the weekends). Of course, you'd have to take a hit in converting your money from Canadian to US. Not sure of the rake or time charge at Seneca since I don't play NL, but the rake at the 2/4 was $3 on the flop and another $1 when the pot reaches $40. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 And hasn't Woodbine been rumoured to open up table games for awhile now?Yes, it's been long rumoured. It will never happen. They'd needto build a whole separate venue on the same site to house justthe casino (and of course hotel) on it's own. They could never jamgaming tables into the space they have now. As someone else said, they'd be simply overrun. Link to post Share on other sites
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