jason weber rakeback????

[allinbluff35 0]

how's the "real world" treating you?

What does this mean? Have you ever made sense?

Dudley used to play for a living and decided to take a break and get a real job. I haven't seen him post for awhile so I thought I would ask him how it was going.

[loogie 115]

Allinbluff made a personal attack against me in a previous thread. I have no respect for him as a poster. I quickly read his responses to this thread and disagreed with his position and sided against him because of my previous dislike for him. This is the truth. I'm sure he has posted worthwhile material in the past.Regardless, I am a non-partial witness to this debate. JWeb owes an explanation for this. If he's not answering his PMs or emails, then this is the place to voice complaints.

[NortonFan 0]

Allinbluff made a personal attack against me in a previous thread.  I have no respect for him as a poster.  I quickly read his responses to this thread and disagreed with his position and sided against him because of my previous dislike for him.  This is the truth.  I'm sure he has posted worthwhile material in the past.Regardless, I am a non-partial witness to this debate.  JWeb owes an explanation for this.  If he's not answering his PMs or emails, then this is the place to voice complaints.

If everyone who he has attacked hated him everybody would most likely hate him.

[loogie 115]

If everyone who he has attacked hated him everybody would most likely hate him.

That says a lot. Doesn't it?

[NortonFan 0]

If everyone who he has attacked hated him everybody would most likely hate him.

That says a lot. Doesn't it?

Only that he belongs in hell which he already knows.

[shinychicken 0]

can't we just drop this?

[whale_hunter 0]

Raymer just got lucky.

[StrippersNBlow 0]

So the guy is a deadbeat, cut your losses and move on. If he decides to come out of hiding, man up and pay someday, it will be a pleasant surprise. Kind of like finding money in some old pants.

[sinc 0]

Jesu Cristo!TS Clark summed up all that needed to be said here.Allinbluff is nothing more than a troll with a bunch of posts.JWeb owes an explanation for this regardless of whatever problems he may be going through.

been reading the forum long have we?okay people, seriously. Jayson does owe a word or two, but lets look at the big picture, all of you are complaining over $100 for the most part, maybe a little more at the most. At 2+2 when the skins split happened, there was a poster/afilliate named buster stacks who basically told everyone tough luck, he was keeping their money, guess what, there was nothing that any of them could do about it, and complaining about it only really made them more mad. I know a poster who buster stacks owes like 1500 to, and we were talking about it, and he told me, yes it sucks, but there is exactly nothing that I can do. What I am saying is this, constantly complaining about it isn't gonna change anything. I'm not sticking up for jayson, or accusing him of anything. IMO he will come good, but he also does need to say something, but until then, what can anyone do about it, nothing

Well clearly there is nothing people can do about it. But I am willing to bet that Buster stacks wasn't exactly accepted as a valued contributer over at 2+2 after he took everyones money. I'm just tired of people coming to Jayson's defense like because he was a moderator here gives him cart blanche to screw people over. And yes going 4 months without so much as an email is screwing people over. I'm sad to hear that some bad things are happening in his life but that isn't an excuse for 4 months of ignoring these people. It's not like he hasn't been online at all because he has. He could have easily sent a mass email to his rakeback clients saying 'this and this is happening in my life I'm very sorry about it, I have your money you will get it soon I promise' case closed. But alas he hasn't done so. As for all the posts asking to give the guy a break, I think his break is long over. Nobody in any profession will get 4 months to deal with life problems while being derelict with his duties. As an example in my senior year of high school near the end of the first semester my parents were seperating, my grandma whom I was very close to died and I was dealing with lots of other bs in my life. But when my Grandma died and pretty much crushed me what did I get? Like 2 days off school, I still had to keep up with my commitments, had to suck it up and man up for my football teammates while we were going for the championship and I had to get my act together and do well on my exams so I could get into College. Having life issues is no excuse to abandon your commitments, maybe for a few days maybe even for a few weeks. But lets be honest 4 months is beyong ridiculous. If this were anyone else he would have been on the FCP weenie roast 3.4 months ago. I hope all you guys looking for your money finally get it, and if you don't I hope Jayson isn't welcomed back here after scamming many of its posters.

[bigcoled 1]

he has super AIDS....and I have a stacked hat...and i love ham...

[Canada 0]

I don't think this was a forum issue, though and this  is not JWeb's forum.    I understand being upset about not getting your rakeback, but  this is not the place to address it.  

With all due respect Nikki this is the perfect place to address this. This is a poker forum for discussing poker related topics.Rakeback and affiliates are a high profile topic in online poker.If a poster came here and sounded off about another affilate not paying, there would be various responses, helpful and retarded, but no one would suggest for a minute that this was not the place to discuss it.The fact that Jayson 'advertised' his site and his rakeback program here (I'm confident that there has been direct mention of the program, but it is at least indirect by linking if I'm wrong) via sigs and posts and has a responsible role and a repsected voice here makes it all the more relevant.

JWeb has been a standup guy and there is no reason to think he won't make good.

We cut him slack because he posts here and as joined the FCPHA 'family', yet despite the fact that most of those being let down by him are not flaming him, they are not being given the same priveledges.They are being shortchanged in an agreement and I personally feel they are perfectly entitled to air their poker related greviences. As some of them are long time posters here, they should also be treated with empathy, not the sometimes overzealous responses they receive. What is good for Jayson is good for others here too.

Don't assume the worst.  Sometimes stuff happens in peoples life that is more important than a couple of bucks.

It would take a miniscule effort on JW's behalf to rectify this situation.The rakeback program is offered by 'The New Age Poker Team' of which there are 4 'public' team members.JaysonChris (wrto)Mathewand the lately 'signed up' Travis Its obvious though from reading between the lines that Jayson does the lion's share, if not all, of the admin related work for the site, however it is a publicly offered financial agreement and if Jayson was competent he could/should have asked one of the other 3 to run the program in his absense.Or perhaps some of those that are so vehement in his defense could step up and help him out...The situation is also made worse by the fact that he found the time to post here recently, but couldn't find the 5 minutes that sending an explaination to the program's members required.1 email from him puts a lot of people's minds at ease and allows him to trade on his reputation here.

This is not a paycheck or livelihood we're talking about here.

Whilst I doubt it is for any of those that signed up with Jayson, rakeback is a serious business for many online players. There are a lot of online professional players out there that earn thousands in rakeback every month.If Team New Age had even 1 of those on their books it begins to look a lot more serious. You might think this is unreasonable, however Jayson is a very enthusiastic poker player, who had a strong, trustworthy reputation as a moderator at one of the highest profile forums. This reputation would be enhanced by the fact that he has met DN and been mentioned in his blogs.When JW started offering excellent rates for rakeback he could have reasonably attracted a few big earners.In summary I think the lack of payments from the program need to be discussed here.With the 100's of enthusiasts that have signed up in the last few weeks it needs to be stated here:Jayson cannot be trusted as an affiliate. Not because of dishonest intentions, but because of incompetence.

[wrto4556 0]

i read through most of this stuff. its true that jayson is irresposible and its unlikely anyone will recieve payments owed.I was associated with the site, helping to write articles, and never recieved a dime for my work. I think Jayson just gave up. My roommates and I are trying to get together our own affiliate program and would like for us to not be associated with him or his site. Thats harsh, but the kid was worthless.If I did more than just write articles I would dish out money owed but unfortunately thats not the case. I have no clue who is signed up through him and how much they are supposed to recieve.Personally, i think all the people that are getting rakeback through him should get new affiliates. Im supprised some of you havnt already. He never answers emails, IMs, or his own damn phone. The money you were suppose to get you wont get and the faster you get get going at another business the faster you'll start getting rakeback.I apologize for this happening. If there was anything I could do I would do it.

[econ_tim 0]

i read through most of this stuff. its true that jayson is irresposible and its unlikely anyone will recieve payments owed.

Holy shit.Not what I expected to read from you at all, but at least we finally have an honest reply from the poster who probably knows Jayson best.

[GamblinLeaf 0]

i read through most of this stuff. its true that jayson is irresposible and its unlikely anyone will recieve payments owed.I was associated with the site, helping to write articles, and never recieved a dime for my work. I think Jayson just gave up. My roommates and I are trying to get together our own affiliate program and would like for us to not be associated with him or his site. Thats harsh, but the kid was worthless.If I did more than just write articles I would dish out money owed but unfortunately thats not the case. I have no clue who is signed up through him and how much they are supposed to recieve.Personally, i think all the people that are getting rakeback through him should get new affiliates. Im supprised some of you havnt already. He never answers emails, IMs, or his own damn phone. The money you were suppose to get you wont get and the faster you get get going at another business the faster you'll start getting rakeback.I apologize for this happening. If there was anything I could do I would do it.

Ummm ... wow.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

i read through most of this stuff. its true that jayson is irresposible and its unlikely anyone will recieve payments owed.I was associated with the site, helping to write articles, and never recieved a dime for my work. I think Jayson just gave up. My roommates and I are trying to get together our own affiliate program and would like for us to not be associated with him or his site. Thats harsh, but the kid was worthless.If I did more than just write articles I would dish out money owed but unfortunately thats not the case. I have no clue who is signed up through him and how much they are supposed to recieve.Personally, i think all the people that are getting rakeback through him should get new affiliates. Im supprised some of you havnt already. He never answers emails, IMs, or his own damn phone. The money you were suppose to get you wont get and the faster you get get going at another business the faster you'll start getting rakeback.I apologize for this happening. If there was anything I could do I would do it.

I think that settles it..

[Dixie Wrecked 0]

:shock:

[CaneBrain 95]

can't we just drop this?

No it really shouldnt be dropped. This is a serious issue. We give spammers a rough time on this forum and rightfully so. When a respected poster (and a moderator) offers rakeback and then doesnt pay anyone for months and goes completely out of contact that is an issue that needs to be addressed.Custom and others. It is really tiring to hear that Jayson has issues. If he has something horrible going on in his life then I feel sympathy for him I really do. However, short of being laid up in a hospital bed or in jail, he should be able to get to a computer and at least offer up an explanation. that takes 10 minutes tops. It gives the impression that he is ducking all these people.what wrto wrote is not encouraging. I like Jayson, always felt he was a fair mod and a good contributor. but enough of defending him no matter how much we might like him. Also, any excuse offered for him that involves a phrase like: "its rakeback you arent owed anything, you maybe shouldnt get it in the first place" is lame and ridiculous.He made a deal where he agreed to get people rakeback. end of story. he needs to get on here and tell people the deal. I believe most people on this forum are level-headed and would be understanding if they received an explanation....there is nothing more frustrating than being kept in the dark.

[renaedawn 1]

If everyone who he has attacked hated him everybody would most likely hate him.

That says a lot. Doesn't it?

It does. It says most of us have a sense of humor.I hear you can buy them at Wal-Mart now. You should try that.

[Tgillisgb 0]

I can be added to the list of people who signed up with JayWeb because of his involvement with this site. I have also e-mailed Jayson in the past without any responce. I did chalk it up to a lesson learned but hopefully even if I don't get any $ back I will at least hear a response from him why...just my .02

[Bleacher Bum 0]

Waiting for Custom to dazzle us with his brilliance...

[custom36 4]

Waiting for Custom to dazzle us with his brilliance...

I hope someone changes your password.Wrto...wow. Nice curveball. Thanks for clearing it up, I guess.

[EdOwen 0]

yea, the kid owes me like $450... Where IS HE? :shock:

[Bleacher Bum 0]

Waiting for Custom to dazzle us with his brilliance...

I hope someone changes your password.Wrto...wow. Nice curveball. Thanks for clearing it up, I guess.

Pretty close!Great response from the new mod. Keep up the "good" work!

[jayboogie 0]

i read through most of this stuff. its true that jayson is irresposible and its unlikely anyone will recieve payments owed.I was associated with the site, helping to write articles, and never recieved a dime for my work. I think Jayson just gave up. My roommates and I are trying to get together our own affiliate program and would like for us to not be associated with him or his site. Thats harsh, but the kid was worthless.If I did more than just write articles I would dish out money owed but unfortunately thats not the case. I have no clue who is signed up through him and how much they are supposed to recieve.Personally, i think all the people that are getting rakeback through him should get new affiliates. Im supprised some of you havnt already. He never answers emails, IMs, or his own damn phone. The money you were suppose to get you wont get and the faster you get get going at another business the faster you'll start getting rakeback.I apologize for this happening. If there was anything I could do I would do it.

I kind of figured that's what happened between you 2. Sometimes big plans just don't work out exactly how you envision it and there could be many reasons for that. It's good for you to post this for everyone though so they at least have a clue as to what is going on. As far as what happened, my guess would be he ran up some debts in some shape or form and probably needed the rakeback money to cover them.

[loogie 115]

It does. It says most of us have a sense of humor.I hear you can buy them at Wal-Mart now. You should try that.

If you knew anything about who I am and what I do, you'd think this statement is pretty funny.Sorry, if I touched a couple nerves last night. I came home from my company's Holiday Party last night hammered and went on an internet rampage.But honestly, I don't see why you all are so quick to defend someone who likes to insult fellow forum members by calling them semen....especially a moderator. It seems a tad hypocritical. But, whatever. It is just a poker forum after all.Do small businesses sell senses of humor? I think I'd rather purchase one there.