allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 are you people retarded? Shit happens, you picked the wrong affiliate to trust evidently.loli have no problem with caveat emptor per sethat's why i shopped around for my affiliatebut i would still be upset if they didn't pay meI wouldn't be happy either but what can you do? nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 are you people retarded? Shit happens, you picked the wrong affiliate to trust evidently.loli have no problem with caveat emptor per sethat's why i shopped around for my affiliatebut i would still be upset if they didn't pay meI wouldn't be happy either but what can you do? nothing.only option is to tp/mm Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 are you people retarded? Shit happens, you picked the wrong affiliate to trust evidently.loli have no problem with caveat emptor per sethat's why i shopped around for my affiliatebut i would still be upset if they didn't pay meI wouldn't be happy either but what can you do? nothing.posting on the forum he moderates seems an appropriate response. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 only option is to tp/mmof course. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 posting on the forum he moderates seems an appropriate response.or you could post it on HIS forum. . . Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 posting on the forum he moderates seems an appropriate response.or you could post it on HIS forum. . .and which would be more effective? Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 posting on the forum he moderates seems an appropriate response.or you could post it on HIS forum. . .and which would be more effective?my guess would be neither. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 posting on the forum he moderates seems an appropriate response.or you could post it on HIS forum. . .except no one reads that------i'm on fire Link to post Share on other sites
neblon 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stealing Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stealing Hi. You're stupid. First if you could read I said "is in essence stealing", which means it may not be the www.dictionary.com definition of stealing, but for all intents and purposes it fits here.The guy owes people money HE is wrong. Sure maybe you won't get your money, that doesn't mean that he's not wrong. It also doesn't mean that people shouldn't try to get THEIR money back b/c it is THEIR money.I seriously don't understand you people Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through. Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through.It is then the affiliates responsibility to give it you, b/c it is your money that you earned. Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Also, like I said previously you guys can argue semantics all you want. It does not change the fact that he is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs1281 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through.It is then the affiliates responsibility to give it you, b/c it is your money that you earned.You didnt really earn it, you payed rake the same as you would normally, it so happens that the affiliate you signed up offered rakeback at the time. The site has a contract with the affiliate, they have to pay the affiliate. You do not have to get paid, he has no "obligation" to pay you, although he should, the site could tell him that he cannot offer rakeback and he would still make his % off of you Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through.It is then the affiliates responsibility to give it you, b/c it is your money that you earned.You didnt really earn it, you payed rake the same as you would normally, it so happens that the affiliate you signed up offered rakeback at the time. The site has a contract with the affiliate, they have to pay the affiliate. You do not have to get paid, he has no "obligation" to pay you, although he should, the site could tell him that he cannot offer rakeback and he would still make his % off of youthat's what i was trying to say, you said it better than I did. Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through.It is then the affiliates responsibility to give it you, b/c it is your money that you earned.You didnt really earn it, you payed rake the same as you would normally, it so happens that the affiliate you signed up offered rakeback at the time. The site has a contract with the affiliate, they have to pay the affiliate. You do not have to get paid, he has no "obligation" to pay you, although he should, the site could tell him that he cannot offer rakeback and he would still make his % off of you If if if if if.....we are talking about the situation at hand not an if scenario.There are such things as implied contracts people.I give with you guys.....let other people keep your money if you wish.I just think it's bs that a bunch of ass kissers try to defend someone who can't pay his debts and say that he should not be called out publicly. If I were new to rakeback I would want to know if someone didn't pay up so I didn't get stiffed and thus be appreciative of those who let me know. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I just think it's bs that a bunch of ass kissers try to defend someone who can't pay his debts quote]hahahaha, you're dumb and annoying. Link to post Share on other sites
Longshanks 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I just think it's bs that a bunch of ass kissers try to defend someone who can't pay his debts quote]hahahaha' date=' you're dumb and annoying.[/quote']you are angry tonight Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I just think it's bs that a bunch of ass kissers try to defend someone who can't pay his debtshahahaha, you're dumb and annoying. Link to post Share on other sites
Longshanks 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 now with a double insult, hes on fire Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is what it is, not sure what arguing, complaining and whatever will do about it. You won't get anything solved until JayWeb addresses this himself if/when that ever happens. Do you have a right to be upset and complain about it? Sure of course, I just don't think that you'll get much out of voicing your displeasure on here. Just chalk it up as a learning experience and do your research next time to make sure your affiliate is credible before signing up. Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through.It is then the affiliates responsibility to give it you, b/c it is your money that you earned.You didnt really earn it, you payed rake the same as you would normally, it so happens that the affiliate you signed up offered rakeback at the time. The site has a contract with the affiliate, they have to pay the affiliate. You do not have to get paid, he has no "obligation" to pay you, although he should, the site could tell him that he cannot offer rakeback and he would still make his % off of you If if if if if.....we are talking about the situation at hand not an if scenario.There are such things as implied contracts people.I give with you guys.....let other people keep your money if you wish.I just think it's bs that a bunch of ass kissers try to defend someone who can't pay his debts and say that he should not be called out publicly. If I were new to rakeback I would want to know if someone didn't pay up so I didn't get stiffed and thus be appreciative of those who let me know. Seriously, do I want to play all those extra hours excited about gettung rakeback just to get stiffed or do I want go through any one of several affiliates that are trustworthy. This is not some prize or privilege, poker sites offer rakeback through affiliates for a reason so it is just like any other business, and to not pay is stealing. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 now with a double insult, hes on fireis that supposed to be a cross in your avatar? god is dead. Link to post Share on other sites
Longshanks 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 now with a double insult, hes on fireis that supposed to be a cross in your avatar? god is dead.its three crosses actually, God loves you Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 It is not your money. It is the poker sites money that is given to an affiliate that you signed up through.It is then the affiliates responsibility to give it you, b/c it is your money that you earned.You didnt really earn it, you payed rake the same as you would normally, it so happens that the affiliate you signed up offered rakeback at the time. The site has a contract with the affiliate, they have to pay the affiliate. You do not have to get paid, he has no "obligation" to pay you, although he should, the site could tell him that he cannot offer rakeback and he would still make his % off of you If if if if if.....we are talking about the situation at hand not an if scenario.There are such things as implied contracts people.I give with you guys.....let other people keep your money if you wish.I just think it's bs that a bunch of ass kissers try to defend someone who can't pay his debts and say that he should not be called out publicly. If I were new to rakeback I would want to know if someone didn't pay up so I didn't get stiffed and thus be appreciative of those who let me know.Dude, he's not defending him. He's just explaining the logistics of it all and it's actually correct. If you're an affiliate, you get paid by the poker room to provide players for the room. How you pay your players is up to the affiliate themselves and well legally you don't need to pay your players anything. As the player, your really at the mercy of the affiliate and have to just hope that they make good on what they promise you. I guess the alternative option is to sue the affiliate, but good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites
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