jason weber rakeback????

[speedz99 145]

I don't think this was a forum issue, though and this  is not JWeb's forum.    I understand being upset about not getting your rakeback, but  this is not the place to address it. JWeb has been a standup guy and there is no reason to think he won't make good.  Don't assume the worst.  Sometimes stuff happens in peoples life that is more important than a couple of bucks. This is not a paycheck or livelihood we're talking about here.

Well said.

But it's wrong. As mentioned previously, he used this forum to help him get members to sign up with him. Therefore it is not at all out of line to bring it up here in order to try and get the money owed to them. As for what happened in his life, maybe it's a bad situation, but that doesn't mean he can just drop his responsibility to other people.

[custom36 4]

Clark, there was no beating being given out by me. The only time I even got upset was when I read things like, "Maybe mommy and daddy took his poker away" and things like that. Surely you can agree that they are completely uncalled for, no matter what he owes them.

[missIdaho 1]

Custom:He doesn't have any of my money, so I'm not personally put out. And, as I said, I do think Jayson will likely make good on these debts.What I get irked by (and this is because it has happened in a couple of threads that have been started on this topic) is people beating the crap out of the aggrieved parties. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have people getting called out in public forums for what are essentially private transactions/agreements. But Jayson has left himself open to these sorts of attacks and people are going to make them in the absence of any other alternative that they can see.I certainly respect your attempts to defend a friend. That's the stand-up thing to do. But, that said, the people he owes money to shouldn't be castigated or ridiculed by forum members and mods. And while Nikki is right that the amount of money is likely not affecting anyone's ability to eat, there is a principle involved.I've said what I wanted to say, so I'm done with this. I certainly wish Jayson all the best. I just wanted to take a moment to stand up for those who were taking a beating in this and other posts because they feel legitimately stiffed over money.

Go back and read this thread. No body is attacking the people that want their money. The only person that is being attacked is Jayson.

[CaneBrain 95]

Clark, I wish I could answer the questions, I really do, but even I don't know the whole story.  What I do know doesn't sound too promising.That said, excluding the last 10 or so posts, this has just been a conversation between people and some kind of sick obsession with Royal_Tour.  The fact is, the money is sitting in an account right now collecting e-dust.  It's not like he's taken your money and stashed it away in a Swedish bank account.  Hell, you're not even supposed to HAVE the money in the first place, as PartyPoker didn't allow rakeback when it was connected with all of those sites.I'm sure Jayson appreciates all of those people waiting patiently and I'm more than willing to answer questions to the best of my ability, so long as they're kept respectful.

i understand what you are saying custom but this part in bold is flat out wrong. he made a deal and he needs to keep his word. therefore they are supposed to have the money....

[custom36 4]

Clark, I wish I could answer the questions, I really do, but even I don't know the whole story.  What I do know doesn't sound too promising.That said, excluding the last 10 or so posts, this has just been a conversation between people and some kind of sick obsession with Royal_Tour.  The fact is, the money is sitting in an account right now collecting e-dust.  It's not like he's taken your money and stashed it away in a Swedish bank account.  Hell, you're not even supposed to HAVE the money in the first place, as PartyPoker didn't allow rakeback when it was connected with all of those sites.I'm sure Jayson appreciates all of those people waiting patiently and I'm more than willing to answer questions to the best of my ability, so long as they're kept respectful.

i understand what you are saying custom but this part in bold is flat out wrong. he made a deal and he needs to keep his word. therefore they are supposed to have the money....

Sorry, I'm not using that as a defense. I just had to get it out.

[econ_tim 0]

u guys just need to learn how to manage your bankroll...or busthttp://jaysonweber.com/articles/weber-bankroll1.php

[TS Clark 0]

Go back and read this thread.  No body is attacking the people that want their money.  The only person that is being attacked is Jayson.

I did read the thread. And there are punches being thrown by both sides. Being dismissive is AS insulting as BEING insulted in many cases (and this is one of those cases, I would submit) and you certainly can't say that these people were not dismissed or made to feel silly for their concerns. And my ire (as I mentioned) goes beyond this one thread. There have been several other threads related to this situation where the "accusers" have been attacked and insulted.As for what Custom said, I certainly agree. The tone of several of the anti-Jayson folks was uncalled for and I don't blame anyone for replying in kind. It's the "shut up and wait" tone that some have employed that I find ridiculous. I wasn't accusing you personally, Custom.

[missIdaho 1]

I don't think this was a forum issue, though and this  is not JWeb's forum.    I understand being upset about not getting your rakeback, but  this is not the place to address it. JWeb has been a standup guy and there is no reason to think he won't make good.  Don't assume the worst.  Sometimes stuff happens in peoples life that is more important than a couple of bucks. This is not a paycheck or livelihood we're talking about here.

Well said.

But it's wrong. As mentioned previously, he used this forum to help him get members to sign up with him. Therefore it is not at all out of line to bring it up here in order to try and get the money owed to them. As for what happened in his life, maybe it's a bad situation, but that doesn't mean he can just drop his responsibility to other people.

No, it's not out of line to bring it up, but it is to personally attack him. No one is saying that the money is not owed and that people have a right to know why they are not getting it, but it's not right to make assuptions and attack some one who up until this point has proven him self to be a stand up guy. Most people involved are being very patient about this and not resorting to attacking him in the forum.

[brando 0]

You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.

[Don Giovanni 0]

I don't think this was a forum issue, though and this  is not JWeb's forum.    I understand being upset about not getting your rakeback, but  this is not the place to address it. JWeb has been a standup guy and there is no reason to think he won't make good.  Don't assume the worst.  Sometimes stuff happens in peoples life that is more important than a couple of bucks. This is not a paycheck or livelihood we're talking about here.

Well said.

But it's wrong. As mentioned previously, he used this forum to help him get members to sign up with him. Therefore it is not at all out of line to bring it up here in order to try and get the money owed to them. As for what happened in his life, maybe it's a bad situation, but that doesn't mean he can just drop his responsibility to other people.

No, it's not out of line to bring it up, but it is to personally attack him. No one is saying that the money is not owed and that people have a right to know why they are not getting it, but it's not right to make assuptions and attack some one who up until this point has proven him self to be a stand up guy. Most people involved are being very patient about this and not resorting to attacking him in the forum.

only one noob was attacking him, these other people, including the op were not. it is completely wrong that he hasnt said anything about the rakeback, especially when he has made recent posts. jweb isnt the one who should be getting defended right now. the sites pay him, and then he pays his people, thats how it works. there is no reason the money shouldnt be there.

[custom36 4]

You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.

Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account untouched.

[brando 0]

You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.

Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account untouched.

HA HA HA HA this is comical.

[Bleacher Bum 0]

Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account untouched.Now that has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

[loxo 0]

You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.

Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account untouched.

Custom, the loyalty you're showing a friend is admirable and an excellent personality trait, however statements like this are not helping your cause.TS Clark is the voice of reason in this thread. I too own my own business, have employees and know exactly where you are coming from.Good luck in the future TS.

[beans-n-icewater 18]

Ok Custom... tell us what is wrong with Jayson. If he's in a bad way, I'm sure the majority here would support/help him the best they could (I'm making decent change dressing as santa in the front of Wal-Mart on Charleston). I could also hire him to work at Beans-n-Iceshavers pouring bean juice on snow-cones, although the busy season is almost over until summer...

[custom36 4]

You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.

Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account untouched.

HA HA HA HA this is comical.

Soo, since the money is sitting an account that he hasn't touched and hasn't used, he stole it? Be serious, guys.

[drumbum1973 0]

If the money isnt in the rightfull owners account , then Yes its stolenjust my 2 centspeace

[brando 0]

You people are taking this personal attack thing way to seriously and defending someone who is in essence stealing.....IMO a personal attack is well deserved on someone who has cut off all lines of communication for several months and not made good on his debts.

Stealing implies that he's using the money. He's not. It's sitting in an account untouched.

HA HA HA HA this is comical.

Soo, since the money is sitting an account that he hasn't touched and hasn't used, he stole it? Be serious, guys.

You're just wrong...not sure how else to put it.Argue semantics all you want. Fact remains he is in the wrong....It's really not that hard to send some emails out.

[ffishh 0]

I don't think this was a forum issue, though and this  is not JWeb's forum.    I understand being upset about not getting your rakeback, but  this is not the place to address it. JWeb has been a standup guy and there is no reason to think he won't make good.  Don't assume the worst.  Sometimes stuff happens in peoples life that is more important than a couple of bucks. This is not a paycheck or livelihood we're talking about here.

Well said.

But it's wrong. As mentioned previously, he used this forum to help him get members to sign up with him. Therefore it is not at all out of line to bring it up here in order to try and get the money owed to them. As for what happened in his life, maybe it's a bad situation, but that doesn't mean he can just drop his responsibility to other people.

No, it's not out of line to bring it up, but it is to personally attack him. No one is saying that the money is not owed and that people have a right to know why they are not getting it, but it's not right to make assuptions and attack some one who up until this point has proven him self to be a stand up guy. Most people involved are being very patient about this and not resorting to attacking him in the forum.

by "up until this point", do you mean "up until 4 months ago when he vanished from the face of the earth, and still hasnt let anybody know what happened to the money he owes them"ffishh

[allinbluff35 0]

contracts aren't signed when you sign up for a rakeback account, shit happens. Worse things could happen.

[brando 0]

contracts aren't signed when you sign up for a rakeback account, shit happens. Worse things could happen.

So what?There aren't contracts on lots of money transactions...doesn't make him any less wrong in doing what he's doing.

[Bleacher Bum 0]

contracts aren't signed when you sign up for a rakeback account, shit happens. Worse things could happen.

Is there a stupid breeze blowing in here or what?

[allinbluff35 0]

are you people retarded? Shit happens, you picked the wrong affiliate to trust evidently.

[beans-n-icewater 18]

contracts aren't signed when you sign up for a rakeback account, shit happens. Worse things could happen.

Is there a stupid breeze blowing in here or what?

...if you feel a cool breeze on your cheek that suddenly smells like sewage... I dont know what that was

[econ_tim 0]

are you people retarded? Shit happens, you picked the wrong affiliate to trust evidently.

loli have no problem with caveat emptor per sethat's why i shopped around for my affiliatebut i would still be upset if they didn't pay me