poker stars banned my chat for saying "gay"

[custom36 5]

(notice custom, that i'm not going around the censored censors. accepting the censored new rules around here)

It makes it really hard to read your post, though. That said, good post.

[Woodbelly 0]

I think everyone just needs to chill out.We should all be gay and merry!

[Royal_Tour 0]

custom is right.just because you know 100 other people who use the word gay doesn't meant that it's okay to use. That's probably one of the most stupid and overused arguments that people use nowadays and i thank "DaBruins" for being an example of that. I also thank him for getting their arse kicked in football today.Royal i disagree with you. Just because our generation has taken the word "gay" to mean lame, does not at all make it right to use.If gay means lame but gay is also a term used for homosexuals, then you're calling homosexuals lame. It's the censored transitive property censored.it's implicit bigotry. and i think it's censored lame.(notice custom, that i'm not going around the censored censors. accepting the censored new rules around here)

NO!, trying to make a link to this as refering to homosexuals as Lame, is your own opinion and observations, and further more,the group KISS is the sponsored by satan and its music promotes Death!.Give me a break. Its very clear that homosexuals, and "gays" are accepted in our community. at least in Canada they are.Not sure how you feel sitting across from someone who is homosexual, but I dont feel threatened or uncomforatble at all.And the very ignorant idea that a word such as "gay" can spawn negativity is just plain straight!.Oh wait, did i just use the word straight as a negative? meaning straight people are bad even though they are considered heterosexual and not actually distinguished as "straight people"uhh oh,, better et Pstars know that 'straight" now means a bad thing

[custom36 5]

Its very clear that homosexuals, and "gays" are accepted in our community. at least in Canada they are.Not sure how you feel sitting across from someone who is homosexual, but I dont feel threatened or uncomforatble at all.

:doh: That explains it!I should've remembered you live in Canada. Sorry Royal. Canada and the US are two VERY different societies. In the US, there are a ton of parents that don't even want their children to know what a homosexual is.Canada's progressed so much more than the US has. You'd be amazed at how far behind we are.

[iveyfan30 0]

Its very clear that homosexuals, and "gays" are accepted in our community. at least in Canada they are.Not sure how you feel sitting across from someone who is homosexual, but I dont feel threatened or uncomforatble at all.

:doh: That explains it!I should've remembered you live in Canada. Sorry Royal. Canada and the US are two VERY different societies. In the US, there are a ton of parents that don't even want their children to know what a homosexual is.Canada's progressed so much more than the US has. You'd be amazed at how far behind we are.

yeah, till they hit 5th grade p.e . mr .tate gets a hold of them and makes us touch him in his "special zone".....umm was that outloud?????

[KingAustin 0]

If gay means lame but gay is also a term used for homosexuals, then you're calling homosexuals lame. It's the censored transitive property censored.it's implicit bigotry. and i think it's censored lame.

No, this is not true. Just because a word has several meanings doesnt mean you can apply the transitive property here. Examples: I'm straight, so I always go straight down the road and never take a right or left turn, wrong.Calling someone a donkey, you're then also implying they are in fact another species, wrong.Words create different meanings overtime. Just because someone is using a word with joint meanings, one referring to a minority group, one referring to something extremely stupid, does NOT make them a bigot.

[lifelessimp 0]

Its very clear that homosexuals, and "gays" are accepted in our community. at least in Canada they are.Not sure how you feel sitting across from someone who is homosexual, but I dont feel threatened or uncomforatble at all.

:doh: That explains it!I should've remembered you live in Canada. Sorry Royal. Canada and the US are two VERY different societies. In the US, there are a ton of parents that don't even want their children to know what a homosexual is.Canada's progressed so much more than the US has. You'd be amazed at how far behind we are.

yeah, till they hit 5th grade p.e . mr .tate gets a hold of them and makes us touch him in his "special zone".....umm was that outloud?????

Loland Sapphire's argument is flawed: everything is based on what everyone else (aka society) considers normal.And by the way, to say that using gay as a derrogatory(sp) is unacceptable is being hypocritical, as you often use retarded as a derrogatory(sp). When you think of retarded, you think of a mentally retarded person. By calling something bad retarded, isn't that linking retarded people to being somehow worse than other people? I guess that you can say retarded= stupid, so it's ok, but then the same could be said of gay.For example, people call FCP gay because 1. all the Royal/Ron/speedz/others threads (which I miss btw)and 2. everyone apparently sucks up to DN here => sucking pole => gay.So, really, I have no idea what I am talking about.

[KingAustin 0]

sucking pole => gay.lmao, just the way you put that is pretty funny. Maybe it's because I'm tired, but I laughed anyway.

[Woodbelly 0]

I have created a political firestorm.

[crazyIvan 0]

I can just imagine all the posts in reply to this. I haven't read them. My response is this:Are you saying since you came to the defense of MoneyMaker you deserve special credit? I'm sure MM can't defend himself playing online. The site should reward you with lots of money and special rewards for defending their boy.

[KTW 0]

The ones that really get me are the "I hope your baby and or Grandma get raped and or die from some flesh eating disease" or something. I mean come on what's the point? It gains you nothing by chatting using that stuff and places you in a bad light toward everyone. I would rather someone call me gay or a wimp or something. At least thats not violent and to me it is humorous.I have yet to be "tilted" by what someone said or typed at the table. I just don't pay attention to it. Online players that play a lot have a greater chance of avoiding tilt because we are so used to seeing all that crap and we ignore it.When I played at the Wynn in July I had a guy getting on me about living in Florida and how it sucks and was always hot and with bugs and stuff and with no good card players and such. Just about all he said was corect so I had a hard time not laughing. :roll:

[jack24bauer24 0]

This is thread is gay.pokerstars is gay.gay gay gay.

[KTW 0]

To whomever censored that word in my last post I apologize. I didnt know that would be censored and not allowed. It won't happen again. :wink:

[Chiggleslap 0]

Canada's progressed so much more than the US has. You'd be amazed at how far behind we are.

i think it depends on where in the U.S. you live. i've lived in Seattle my whole life and there's little to no social tension between the GLBT community and the heterosexual community. in fact, they're not really two separate communities at all. there's not much differentiation anymore. i guess i'm just lucky to live in a socially-progressive area.maybe Seattle is the Canada of the Unites States.

[Smiddywap 0]

No, this is not true. Just because a word has several meanings doesnt mean you can apply the transitive property here. Examples: I'm straight, so I always go straight down the road and never take a right or left turn, wrong.Calling someone a donkey, you're then also implying they are in fact another species, wrong.Words create different meanings overtime. Just because someone is using a word with joint meanings, one referring to a minority group, one referring to something extremely stupid, does NOT make them a bigot.

It doesn't make them a bigot, but it does make them a jerk. In your two examples, straight and donkey, the other meanings of those words don't refer to any group of people. Eeyore doesn't count. Screw Eeyore.Think about how 'gay' got to mean 'lame.' It's in reference to that group of people. That's the difference.

[lifelessimp 0]

No, this is not true. Just because a word has several meanings doesnt mean you can apply the transitive property here. Examples: I'm straight, so I always go straight down the road and never take a right or left turn, wrong.Calling someone a donkey, you're then also implying they are in fact another species, wrong.Words create different meanings overtime. Just because someone is using a word with joint meanings, one referring to a minority group, one referring to something extremely stupid, does NOT make them a bigot.

It doesn't make them a bigot, but it does make them a jerk. In your two examples, straight and donkey, the other meanings of those words don't refer to any group of people. Eeyore doesn't count. Screw Eeyore.Think about how 'gay' got to mean 'lame.' It's in reference to that group of people. That's the difference.

Think about how "lame" got to mean "uncool." Isn't that in reference to a group of people, too? As in people who have a lame leg? Gay is the new lame. Gay is the new retarded. It's only because of the amount of gay advocacy(sp) groups that is making this socially unacceptable. I grew up w/ gay being used as a derrogatory. I guess that makes me insensitive to the issue. Who gives a **** anyways? it's the ****ing intarweb. People say stupid stuff.

[Petoria 0]

Just a quick rant about the "n word" and the "f word"(you know which one).Anybody who uses those words "legitimately" (whatever that means), can't get upset when someone else uses them "illegitimately". That's a new law, Congress just passed it. It was attached to a "flags for orphans" bill.

[AlanBostick 0]

Why? Man, gay is used in so many different contexts these days.I use the term to describe something as lame rather than homosexual.

Have you ever been gypped? Has someone ever welshed on a debt they owed you? Have they been an indian giver?What all these usages have in common with the usage of "gay" as lame or pathetic is that they are slurs. They perrpetuate literally hateful stereotypes about people.They do so even when some clueless git like you uses them without thinking about it.So PokerStars shut your chat down because you used a hateful slur without thinking about it? Good. Maybe next time you might actually think about it.

[steve7stud 0]

This debate could go on and on forever. The point is, just because a word has found a new meaning amongst a group of people, doesn't make it right. I've always been fortunate to live in metropolitan areas that were accepting of all forward progress. But to re-introduce the word to mean something different is essentially moving us back in time. A place I personally don't want to go. The English vocabulary is huge. Anyone and everyone can clearly find a substitute if they wanted to. Obviously I can't tell people what to do, I can only express my opinions. It's really not fair to use the word in the context in which it has now come to. No good can come of it. So why promote it? I often ask myself (usually after watching a movie), what am I doing with my life to make a difference? Or change things in a positive way. Clearly I'm not a doctor, or a teacher. So, my path and my role will be a different one. But hopefully, some of the smaller things in life that I do will make a difference. Because I'm not a poker celebrity YET, lol. I voice my opinion in other ways. To you guys. But I ask you, if some people were offended by the use of the word, why not just change the habit?

[BC4Jesus 0]

Let me pose this then. If I were gay (which I sho nuff am not) would it be ok for me to use that term, just as it's ok for black folks to use the n word? Like I said, everyone is so afraid of hurting other peoples feelings, it's pussification of America, George Carlin has a great bit about it.

Well, not on Pokerstars. But, in real life it'd be fine. That double standard is just something that's accepted. There are many double standards in society, with this just being one tree in a forest.Gays also (unfortunately) call each other the f word (not that one, the other one...the gay one). Just like the n word, no straight person could ever use the f word and be justified in it. That's just the way it is.For the record, I'm not in favor of anyone (gay or straight) using the f word or using gay in that way.

Well put, and I agree with you completely. I just don't like people trashing other people period. There's too much of that in society (not just at poker tables). I remember when I was a child and got the flu or something, my mom would call the doctor and he would come to the house. You don't see that kind of stuff anymore. Society has come a long way in a lot of areas, but unfortunately we need to get back to caring for each other and being sensitive to each other's feelings.

[dead money 1]

It doesn't make them a bigot, but it does make them a jerk. In your two examples, straight and donkey, the other meanings of those words don't refer to any group of people. Eeyore doesn't count. Screw Eeyore.

What?!!?? NO!!!!! Not screw Eeyore, SCREW YOU.Ok, ok, Im calm now.

[SuM827 0]

This guy was railing Chris Moneymaker and badgering him like you wouldn't believe. I told the guy to stop being gay. Next thing you know my chat is banned for taking up for one of their Champions! That site is something else, THEY ARE GAY. I'm banning Poker Stars, screw them. Who's with me?

Wouldn't it be funny if you got banned from FCP for the same reason?

[AlTrade 0]

This is the Gayest Post yet!!!!!!!!

[custom36 5]

maybe Seattle is the Canada of the Unites States.

There are a number of reasons I want to move to Seattle. This is one of them.

[CaneBrain 95]

Why? Man, gay is used in so many different contexts these days.I use the term to describe something as lame rather than homosexual.

When someone says "Gay" (just that word), what's the first thing you think of?When the first thing you think of is "lame," then we can talk.

I can absolutely positively say that when I hear the word "gay" I think of lame more often than homosexual.....I just hear it used in a context meaning lame much more often.not defending that usage or applauding it.....