econ_tim 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $.25 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxUTG+1 ($21.45)UTG+2 ($17.75)MP1 ($37.55)MP2 ($25.45)MP3 ($10.50)CO ($25.55)econ_tim ($24.95)SB ($23.85)BB ($23.10)UTG ($25.45)Preflop: econ_tim is Button with 2:diamond:, 4:club:, A:diamond:, 7:heart:. 4 folds, BB checks.Flop: ($1.10) 7:diamond:, A:club:, 8:diamond: (4 players)BB checks, MP2 bets $1.1, BB folds, MP2 calls $3.30.Turn: ($9.90) J:spade: (2 players)MP2 bets $9.9, MP2 calls $10.40.River: ($50.50) 7:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)guess there is not much to this hand. my main question is do you usually pot this preflop? Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 16 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Ultimate Bet Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $.25 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxUTG+1 ($21.45)UTG+2 ($17.75)MP1 ($37.55)MP2 ($25.45)MP3 ($10.50)CO ($25.55)econ_tim ($24.95)SB ($23.85)BB ($23.10)UTG ($25.45)Preflop: econ_tim is Button with 2:diamond:, 4:club:, A:diamond:, 7:heart:. 4 folds, BB checks.Flop: ($1.10) 7:diamond:, A:club:, 8:diamond: (4 players)BB checks, MP2 bets $1.1, BB folds, MP2 calls $3.30.Turn: ($9.90) J:spade: (2 players)MP2 bets $9.9, MP2 calls $10.40.River: ($50.50) 7:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)guess there is not much to this hand. my main question is do you usually pot this preflop?it depends. a lot of people on here like to be agressive before the flop. i don't really play that way. i just feel a lot more comfortable knowing the texture of the flop and where i stand in the hand during the first round of betting.basically, i make my money in omaha when people pay to draw even when they may not be drawing to the nuts.at the same time i wouldnt say that making a pot sized raise before the flop is a bad play, in fact, its probably correct. basically you have position and your betting with what is probably the best hand and if you miss the flop you muck and go on to the next hand. Link to post Share on other sites
oceansize 0 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 yeah, omaha's a game where i get snapped often enough that the hands i do play i limp with to the flop and then get involved in the fray. but that's just me. on that flop you have your nut flush draw, you have second best low, and you have top two pair. that would be the bugle sound to charge. preflop, i have problems with raising with what i have and knowing i'm not betting anyone out. Link to post Share on other sites
Cooker 0 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I think you have a great hand preflop and you have great position, so I would raise. I may not always raise the full pot, because I don't care one bit if anyone folds or not since your hand is a great multiway hand, I just want to be able to get more money in on a flop I like. If you aren't raising here, then when do you want to raise preflop? Link to post Share on other sites
InertGrudge 0 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I like raising preflop with these suited A-2 + another wheel card hands. Plus, you have the button. Might as well put in a raise to like, $1.00, or something like that. Just puts more money in the pot for you to hit.After the flop, standard. Nh. Link to post Share on other sites
Chamonyx 0 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I would definitely raise this pre-flop to try to suck in some dead money. How much would depend on the table, and what other hands I had potted with pre-flop and shown down (or represented).If you are not going to raise this hand pre-flop on the button, what hands ARE you going to raise with? Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 You have to pot this for value. The only arguments against potting are giving your opponents information and playing poorly postflop (when the ratio of stacks to pot is lower). As long as you raise a range of hands (whcih you should), definitely pot. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 If you are not going to raise this hand pre-flop on the button, what hands ARE you going to raise with? Link to post Share on other sites
KVOM 0 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 A pot raise is a good play. One of the advantages is that when a "mediocre" flop occurs it will often get checked to you giving you a free card. Link to post Share on other sites
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